Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: STFC Bart on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 10:12:44 Taken form the People
Paul Sturrock will be installed as the manager of Swindon town tomorrow. however there will be a clause in his contract allowing him to go back to sheffield wendesday if they want him. Will our board ever learn? We will be back to square one again, any chance of stability? Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: rockincockinrobin on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 10:15:40 That's great news, i wouldn't worry about that clause bart, they have just sacked him, very rarely do clubs who have sacked a manager then go and get him back, he loves wednesday but he'll be here for at least 2-3 years i think, i wouldn't get too pissed off with that clause, i'm sure others will agree!!
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 10:47:29 Andy King?
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: rockincockinrobin on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 10:55:03 Quote from: "simon pieman" Andy King? True, but that's our board for you soapy tit wank!!! Usually though how many clubs re-employ managers that they have sacked? it's very rare, the board should have put in his contract that he could only go there after being here for 1-2 years first. But i'm not going to worry about that too much, the right man has got the job and he will stay here for quite a while, hopefully he will get us into the championship before he goes!! Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: mr ian on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 11:05:02 The People
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: rockincockinrobin on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 11:06:06 http://www.people.co.uk/sport/football/tm_headline=swindon-turn-to-sturrock-but-door-left-open-at-owls%26method=full%26objectid=18047705%26siteid=93463-name_page.html
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: The_Plagiarist on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 11:17:15 The People
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 11:18:42 Interesting......the evidence continues to mount.
There are going to be a lot of unhappy people if this isn't confirmed tomorrow... It would be probably the first ever sensible decision this board has ever made. Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 11:25:25 I would be very happy with that appointment. In fairness, he did say he would insist on that clause whoever he went to.
If appointed, Sturrock will get us promoted - FACT! Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: STFC Bart on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 11:26:22 The fact is tho there is a power struggle at Wednesday, if they did change ownership there is a chance that they would want him back
Very happy with the appointment if it happens- but we could do without this hanging over us Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 11:27:30 Quote from: "STFC Bart" The fact is tho there is a power struggle at Wednesday, if they did change ownership there is a chance that they would want him back Very happy with the appointment if it happens- but we could do without this hanging over us This Swindon Town Bart, every silver lining has a cloud. It's the law! Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: spacey on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 11:45:05 From that League paperathingamibob..
Paul Sturrock will walk into Dennis Wise's shoes at Swindon Town tomorrow- with the management team who helped him lift Plymouth Argyle to two promotions. Sturrock, 50, is back in management just over a fortnight after being controversially sacked by Sheffield Wednesday, who also parted company with coaches Kevin Summerfield and John Blackly. Now the axed trio will target a Wiltshire repeat of the West country wonder that saw Plymouth transported into the championship. Sturrock, who watched Swindon's home game with Hereford yesterday, has been cleared to take charge of the league two high-flyers by a rapid agreement on compensation with Wednesday of around £200,000. His Swindon contract will contain a clause that he can leave without compensation should Wednesday , where he was immensely popular with fans ever want him back. Town will agree knowing that such an event is extremely unlikely. Sturrock said " Swindon are a great club with great support. I've been reading some of their messageboards and was very impressed with one lad by the name of Spacey, he is very intelligent, witty and highly fashionable. It was his greatness that convinced me to make the move." There's more but I can't be arsed to type it out. Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: mr ian on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 11:50:30 did anyone see him yesterday?
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Miles Mayhem on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 11:53:16 " Swindon are a great club with great support. I've been reading some of their messageboards and was very impressed with one lad by the name of Spacey, he is very intelligent, witty and highly fashionable. It was his greatness that convinced me to make the move." :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
Spacey why did you let him have the wednesday clause? Cos if he goes :box: Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Arriba on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 12:54:12 the people trying to take over at wednesday want sturrock as manager.
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: STFC Bart on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 13:07:27 Exactly and if they succeed he will be off like a shot
We need stability not someone else who will run at the first offer Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: rockincockinrobin on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 13:21:17 I would rather have a more committed manager without a clause than have Sturrock with the clause, if he's asking for a clause like that then it does not look good at all!!
He's only just left wednesday and i know there is a power struggle going on at wednesday at the moment which is not good as if the consortium take over there Sturrock would be gone like a shot, i think if Sturrock really wants the job he should not be demanding any clause and the board should turn round to Sturrock and say sorry but this clause isn't going into the contract if you don't agree with it then we will go for someone else. Knowing the muppets on the board though they will put the clause in and in the near future we will be back in the same situation again!!!! Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: rockincockinrobin on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 13:23:09 I really want Sturrock as manager without a doubt but i don't really like the idea of this clause and i'm sure alot of other fans will feel the same way!!
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Sussex on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 13:25:32 Quote from: "rockincockinrobin" I really want Sturrock as manager without a doubt but i don't really like the idea of this clause and i'm sure alot of other fans will feel the same way!! How many fucking times do you want to make this point? Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 13:26:21 How long will he be signing for?
2 and a bit seasons I reckkon. There's a fair chance within this time that anyone could come and get him. The compo is the only issue here, not the fact that Sturrock could bugger off. Of course this is all if he signs. I bet we get Rix now :D Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: rockincockinrobin on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 13:27:14 Quote from: "Sussex Red" Quote from: "rockincockinrobin" I really want Sturrock as manager without a doubt but i don't really like the idea of this clause and i'm sure alot of other fans will feel the same way!! How many fucking times do you want to make this point? soapy tit wank. Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: DV on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 13:35:06 Although I think the clause is stupid, id rather have Sturrock with that clause than not have him at all...
Plus its all rumours Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Arriba on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 14:37:03 id prefer a rebel without a clause. :wink:
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: ron dodgers on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 15:20:12 I'd prefer Santa Clause
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: adje on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 19:55:56 Quote from: "ron dodgers" I'd prefer Santa Clause There aint no Sanity Clause Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: adje on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 19:57:44 Quote from: "spacey" From that League paperathingamibob.. Paul Sturrock will walk into Dennis Wise's shoes at Swindon Town tomorrow- with the management team who helped him lift Plymouth Argyle to two promotions. Sturrock, 50, is back in management just over a fortnight after being controversially sacked by Sheffield Wednesday, who also parted company with coaches Kevin Summerfield and John Blackly. Now the axed trio will target a Wiltshire repeat of the West country wonder that saw Plymouth transported into the championship. Sturrock, who watched Swindon's home game with Hereford yesterday, has been cleared to take charge of the league two high-flyers by a rapid agreement on compensation with Wednesday of around £200,000. His Swindon contract will contain a clause that he can leave without compensation should Wednesday , where he was immensely popular with fans ever want him back. Town will agree knowing that such an event is extremely unlikely. Sturrock said " Swindon are a great club with great support. I've been reading some of their messageboards and was very impressed with one lad by the name of Spacey, he is very intelligent, witty and highly fashionable. It was his greatness that convinced me to make the move." There's more but I can't be arsed to type it out. Hang on a minute....we have to pay compensation to Wednesday even though they've sacked him!!!!!!!?????? Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: yeo on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 20:03:12 Are you being serious Adje?
Thats his compensation for being sacked. Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: adje on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 20:06:45 I dont get it-Wednesday didn't want him
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: yeo on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 20:07:57 Bah you got me.
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: yeo on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 20:08:35 He was under contract so they had to pay him off same as King
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: adje on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 20:43:49 But if they paid him off thats the end of their association...so surely its now between us and him and nothing to do with Wednesday.Sorry,am I being thick......I have been drinking!
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: STFC Village on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 20:45:00 Technically, he'd have still been under contract if he hadn't been paid off
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: adje on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 20:46:04 Oh I get it -we aren't the ones paying the 200 grand......doh!
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: fatbury on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 20:54:42 Steve White comes with no clauses ..
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: STFC Village on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 20:55:29 Quote from: "fatbury" Steve White comes with no clauses .. and no talentTitle: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 20:57:31 Quote from: "fatbury" Steve White comes with no clauses .. is he a better manager than sturrock? Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: yeo on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 21:02:26 :mrgreen: Adje's on the bottle
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Frigby Daser on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 21:10:37 The management team we've got coming doesn't look to shabby either - Kevin Summerfield is experienced enough and Blackley has managed Hibs in the past (about 20 years back)
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, November 5, 2006, 21:31:22 a really good appointment. who cares about the clause? he won't bugger off straight away. can't see Wednesday wanting him back in a hurry. they have just god rid of him for peaks sake! with this management team we will go up this season. or at least i hope. i wait for tomorrow with anticipation
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Spud on Monday, November 6, 2006, 00:36:03 Quote from: "STFC Village" Quote from: "fatbury" Steve White comes with no clauses .. and no talent:mrgreen: :nod: Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Sheffield Red on Monday, November 6, 2006, 00:41:49 This clause Sturrock is supposedly insisting on is a typically lazy piece of reporting by 'The People'. They have taken it from an 'off the cuff' comment Sturrock made on Radio Sheffield when he was quite emotional about being sacked and had just had fans phoning in saying how great he was. I suspect the reality is that if he takes over he will have a clause in his contract like Wise did with a set level of compensation for any club. If you want a successful manager you have to accept they will be ambitious to manage at a higher level (we are in Division 4 remember). If you just want somebody who is loyal then it means they are not capable of getting a better job and we will hang around in this league.
If Wednesday ever are taken over (highly unlikely any time soon) then the investors would need so much money that paying compensation for Sturrock would be a relatively small outlay anyway. A vocal minority of Wednesday fans have been trying to force Dave Allan out for years but have never got anywhere near as nobody can stump up the money to pay off the debts and run the club (sound familiar?). A lot of other fans don't like Allen but are so apathetic that it would probably take them being relegated for anything to happen. Furthermore they have done really well since Sturrock left which has eased the pressure on Allen. On balance I am in favour of appointing Sturrock as his record in the bottom 2 divisions is excellent. The Wednesday fans I know have sometimes complained about the blandness of his football but there were no complaints about style when he was getting them promoted. His biggest problem at Hillsborough was home results but Wednesday have had that problem for years as away teams enjoy playing there and some of Wednesday's players seem a bit daunted. No reason to think he would have that problem with us (Plymouth were virtually unbeatable at home). It's absolutely critical we go up this year as it is very easy to get stuck in this league if you don't go straight back up. Sturrock is probably the most likely candidate to achieve it. Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Luci on Monday, November 6, 2006, 03:45:57 Quote from: "Sheffield Red" This clause Sturrock is supposedly insisting on is a typically lazy piece of reporting by 'The People'. They have taken it from an 'off the cuff' comment Sturrock made on Radio Sheffield when he was quite emotional about being sacked and had just had fans phoning in saying how great he was. I suspect the reality is that if he takes over he will have a clause in his contract like Wise did with a set level of compensation for any club. If you want a successful manager you have to accept they will be ambitious to manage at a higher level (we are in Division 4 remember). If you just want somebody who is loyal then it means they are not capable of getting a better job and we will hang around in this league. If Wednesday ever are taken over (highly unlikely any time soon) then the investors would need so much money that paying compensation for Sturrock would be a relatively small outlay anyway. A vocal minority of Wednesday fans have been trying to force Dave Allan out for years but have never got anywhere near as nobody can stump up the money to pay off the debts and run the club (sound familiar?). A lot of other fans don't like Allen but are so apathetic that it would probably take them being relegated for anything to happen. Furthermore they have done really well since Sturrock left which has eased the pressure on Allen. On balance I am in favour of appointing Sturrock as his record in the bottom 2 divisions is excellent. The Wednesday fans I know have sometimes complained about the blandness of his football but there were no complaints about style when he was getting them promoted. His biggest problem at Hillsborough was home results but Wednesday have had that problem for years as away teams enjoy playing there and some of Wednesday's players seem a bit daunted. No reason to think he would have that problem with us (Plymouth were virtually unbeatable at home). It's absolutely critical we go up this year as it is very easy to get stuck in this league if you don't go straight back up. Sturrock is probably the most likely candidate to achieve it. Good Post. Some good points there. Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, November 6, 2006, 08:22:08 Sheffield Red - The voice of reason - FACT!
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, November 6, 2006, 08:36:09 Someone on the Adver board says todays Adver has reported that there is no clause and soe form of an 18-month bar on a big-club release clause - that'd be superb. Anyone able to confirm this?
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Sussex on Monday, November 6, 2006, 09:34:17 Excellent post Sheffield Red :thumbs:
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, November 6, 2006, 09:52:10 Radio Swindon are also reporting it's Sturrock.
Shaun says he'll be confirmed tomorrow: Looking at their scripts, also says Kevin Summerfield and John Blackley and coming in as coaches. Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: janaage on Monday, November 6, 2006, 10:12:47 His coaches who guided Plymouth up and up again!!
Monday morning's just got a lot better!! Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: fatbury on Monday, November 6, 2006, 10:22:16 Having read the History of Luggs on Wikipedia .. I have to say im very impressed and now suitably excited about him being manager .. his record is excellent and hopefully hes our Macari for the 21st Century :P
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, November 6, 2006, 10:24:42 Quote from: "fatbury" Having read the History of Luggs on Wikipedia .. I have to say im very impressed and now suitably excited about him being manager .. his record is excellent and hopefully hes our Macari for the 21st Century :P Yep, I can't wait to get that text confirming all of this. If anyone from the club is reading: don't fuck this up. This WILL get us promoted! Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: janaage on Monday, November 6, 2006, 10:31:33 Talk about a rollercoaster of a season!!
Can there be a clause put in Sturrocks contract that if it doesn't work out for the best here, then it's all Mark Devlin's fault. Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: fatbury on Monday, November 6, 2006, 10:34:29 no itll be the trust's fault and in particular PaulD :wink:
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, November 6, 2006, 10:42:26 Quote from: "fatbury" no itll be the trust's fault and in particular PaulD :wink: And there is no rift. Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, November 6, 2006, 12:34:02 so it'll be confirmed tomorrow then? great news!
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, November 6, 2006, 12:48:29 http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/content/articles/2006/11/06/stfc_061106_feature.shtml
More copy Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: STFC Village on Monday, November 6, 2006, 13:56:07 Quote from: "The Beeb" It is expected that he will be formally introduced at the County Ground tomorrow barring any last minute hitches. There better not be any, goddammit :xTitle: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, November 6, 2006, 14:09:27 Wonder if they'll bring in a keeper coach?
And what about Tuttle's future? Now there'll be a number 3 down at Wanborough too, so other than scouting (which i'm sure the new coaches are more than capable of) he's a bit of a hanger-on. Given the fact he was Forest Green before, we're still quite a step up for David Lee, who I suppose must be reasonably local - so hopefully he'll stay on. Last thing the yoof need is upheaval. Hope Sturrock et al up sticks and move down here too - it knackered Ince out doing the length of the country each day, it'd be the same for Sturrock Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, November 6, 2006, 14:17:47 I'll tell you what i like most and it's that Sturrick is better than Wise, at least on paper.
Gievn the choice at the start of the season, Wise or Sturrock? I'd have gone for Sturrock everytime. I'm very pleased, and for the record i was never unhappy with Wise, but this cloud does appear to have a silver lining. :D Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, November 6, 2006, 14:44:17 I agree with Barry, Sturrock is so much more proven than Wise. Just what this club needs.
Happy days :mrgreen: Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: sonic youth on Monday, November 6, 2006, 16:17:45 what a bizarre time we have supporting this club.
two weeks ago today, everything was doom and gloom as wise and poyet looked set to walk out. over the previous fortnight we've had all manner of drama, speculations, arguments, debate etc. and then exactly two weeks later, we look set to appoint paul sturrock - a manager with a proven record at this level and an excellent reputation. i honestly would rather have sturrock than wise. now it's time to ride the peak and wait for the next trough, bah. Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Arriba on Monday, November 6, 2006, 16:21:50 Quote from: "sonic youth" what a bizarre time we have supporting this club. two weeks ago today, everything was doom and gloom as wise and poyet looked set to walk out. over the previous fortnight we've had all manner of drama, speculations, arguments, debate etc. and then exactly two weeks later, we look set to appoint paul sturrock - a manager with a proven record at this level and an excellent reputation. i honestly would rather have sturrock than wise. now it's time to ride the peak and wait for the next trough, bah. summed up well but i dont know who i'd prefer.wise got more out of average players probably because of who he is.dunno if sturrock can do that Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: pauld on Monday, November 6, 2006, 16:27:46 He did at Plymuff
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: sonic youth on Monday, November 6, 2006, 16:32:18 on reputation and previous achievements alone, sturrock undoubtedly for me.
wise did well at millwall, but his achievements aren't as relevent to us whereas sturrock's promotions at plymouth are. Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Princess on Monday, November 6, 2006, 16:36:01 I agree he is the best man for the job, just a shame he couldn't of replaced Kingy.
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: land_of_bo on Monday, November 6, 2006, 16:37:23 Sturrock will be an immense coup if we pull it off.
I can see a post-xmas unbeaten streak in the league once he has settled in and a good FA cup run with a 3rd round trip to Bellend Road! Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, November 6, 2006, 16:38:55 Now that would be apt.
Most importantly though, can we please start singing Paul Sturrock's 'Red and White Army' rather than Barmy, which is, lets face it, is shite. Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: janaage on Monday, November 6, 2006, 16:47:52 what he said, barmy army makes me cringe. What exactly is barmy about the town end???
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, November 6, 2006, 17:50:07 From a St Johnstone site - sounds like we'll be able to hear the teamtalk from the Townend!
John Blackley Asst Manager - has a very loud mouth - especially when shouting at the players if Saints are getting beaten. Favourite shout is "Danny! Danny!" followed by some strange hand gestures - this is usually ignored by the players. Banned from the dugout for most of the 1997-98 season after trying to murder ref Shug Dallas at the end of the controversial 1-0 defeat by Celtic in the Coca-Cola Cup. Quit to join Judas Sturrock in Sept 1998. Stayed on when Sturrock left but has since gone to Plymouth. Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: normy on Monday, November 6, 2006, 19:02:48 Getting ready to applaud the Board tomorrow, Points West said it is very close to settlement for Sturrock to sign.
Title: Sturrock in tomorrow- but with a clause Post by: Andy King on Monday, November 6, 2006, 19:16:21 Quote from: "Princess" I agree he is the best man for the job, just a shame he couldn't of replaced Kingy. You said you loved me on Saturday. It was obvious you were too drunk to know what you were saying. |