Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: janaage on Friday, October 20, 2006, 08:16:36 Really pissed me off last night, the fact that this woman is getting so much coverage (which I am now adding to).
It's PC brigade gone crazy, thank fuck the tribunial gave up the spanish archer. Basically can you give a reassuring smile, or just a look of encouragement when the kid can only see your eyes? No. So take the fucking thing off or get yourself a job as a mascara model or something, or any other job that facial expression is not needed. Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: Batch on Friday, October 20, 2006, 08:26:09 and she is nowe taking it to the high court of appeal because according to her solicitor "it's an important case for muslim women".
No, no it isn't I don't care what you wear in public, but as it effects your ability to do the job then either don't wear it or get another job. Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: Piemonte on Friday, October 20, 2006, 08:28:07 totally agree fellas.
Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: red macca on Friday, October 20, 2006, 08:31:05 how the fuck would you know it was her everyday anyway..its a fuckin joke
They moan that they cant settle in to our society then wear all that shit which prevents them from settling in anyway,thats their decision not ours Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: janaage on Friday, October 20, 2006, 08:44:04 I have to be honest I don't really like the idea of it in general anyway.
What would happen if we all decided to where the veil? They would be banned without doubt. The police would be fucked, as cctv wouldn't be effective, crime rate would sore. Motor cyclist have to take off their helmets before going into a bank or petrol station to show their faces, so why don't these women? Let's all where the veil and see what happens. Would make pulling in a night club a little bit of a lottery for those still clubbing. Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: STFCBird on Friday, October 20, 2006, 08:44:08 send her back to her own fucking country
Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: red macca on Friday, October 20, 2006, 08:48:12 Quote from: "janaage" I have to be honest I don't really like the idea of it in general anyway. also how many terrorists could be walking the streets wearing a veil?sounds stupid i know but cannot say it is not a possibilityWhat would happen if we all decided to where the veil? They would be banned without doubt. The police would be fucked, as cctv wouldn't be effective, crime rate would sore. Motor cyclist have to take off their helmets before going into a bank or petrol station to show their faces, so why don't these women? Let's all where the veil and see what happens. Would make pulling in a night club a little bit of a lottery for those still clubbing. Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: Barry Scott on Friday, October 20, 2006, 08:57:44 I could rant about this for hours. I hate the fact that if we go to another country where laws and things are hugely differnet and geared heavily around their "religions", we will happily fall into line and follow suit out of respect.
People come here, they don't respect our culture or our beliefs, they say they hate the cross, our flag, our displays of patriotism, christmas... The list goes on. Fuck em. I'm sick of this shit. Blair is a cunt and not unlike previous governments, bends over backwards to help people, not fit in, but to give them everything they require - Mosques etc, this then allows them to live within their little cliques and alienate themselves from society as a whole. Blair or someone with balls, needs to stand up and tell them to respect us or fuck off. As far as i'm concerned, fuck her beliefs, she's in our country, we don't like it. If she's unhappy with that then go the fuck home, either to wherever she was born or to her 2 bed semi in middex and watch Jeremy Kyle, where blair will pay her and she sit round her house all day wearing her veil till her hearts content. CUNTS. Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: Foggy on Friday, October 20, 2006, 09:00:59 Fuck em , if they cant accept OUR country and OUR standards then i suggest that they pack up and return to the country that they love so much , oops silly me i forgot they dont get fucking handouts and assistance over there do they .
Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: STFCBird on Friday, October 20, 2006, 09:02:00 Well said foggy. They are all cunts.
Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: janaage on Friday, October 20, 2006, 09:02:29 To be fair she was probably born here. I have no problem with people having different faiths in this country, no problem at all. But we should be looking to bring down the racial and relegious divides. Have predomanantly black/asian/white ares is not gonna help that happen.
Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: red macca on Friday, October 20, 2006, 09:02:39 Quote from: "STFCBird" Well said foggy. They are all cunts. i am also a cunt,but at least you can see my faceTitle: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: Arriba on Friday, October 20, 2006, 09:05:59 them ninga's fuck me off.i'm terrified when i walk near them as i think they may take me out with a kung foo move. :wink:
new game for the youth of today to play.pull the veil off the muslim! sod apple nogging or knock down ginger Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: Barry Scott on Friday, October 20, 2006, 09:07:07 HERE IS AN ARTICLE ABOUT AUSTRALIA'S TAKE ON THIS
Quote Why Can't The Greatest Country On Earth Be Like The Australian's Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," he said on national television. "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option," Costello said. Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want! to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off," he said. Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave it. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians." "However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia." "However, there are a few things that those who have recently com to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand." "This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle." "This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom" "We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, Learn the language!" "Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right; wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture." "We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us." "If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like " A Fair Go," then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others. "This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.'" "If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted." Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, UK citizens will find the backbone to start speaking and voting the same truths! Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: red macca on Friday, October 20, 2006, 09:07:11 Quote from: "arriba" them ninga's fuck me off.i'm terrified when i walk near them as i think they may take me out with a kung foo move. :wink: i corrected your spelling mistake :wink:new game for the youth of today to play.pull the veil off the muslim! sod apple nogging or knock down nigger Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: Foggy on Friday, October 20, 2006, 09:07:19 One more thing , if some soft headed liberal comes on here and tells me to be more tolerant then they can fuck off as well , i am fed up having to pussy foot around the PC brigade . If you dont like OUR country then go home or back to where your true allegiance lies. Rant over (for now)
Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: STFCBird on Friday, October 20, 2006, 09:46:53 Quote from: "red macca" Quote from: "STFCBird" Well said foggy. They are all cunts. i am also a cunt,but at least you can see my faceTrue....... :D :wink: Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: Piemonte on Friday, October 20, 2006, 09:47:49 That Aussie Article is great.
No doubt some faggots will find that type of language massively offensive and "racist". Its not. Its just the blunt truth about how things are. Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: janaage on Friday, October 20, 2006, 10:08:38 I've seen the latter part of that article before, sums it up nicely.
Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: McLovin on Friday, October 20, 2006, 10:19:34 I think they should be allowed to carry on, but expect and accept any prejudice that comes with it. No, you can't go through customs like that... no you can't have that job... no you aren't allowed to enter this bank/petrol station with that on your head.
Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: Sippo on Friday, October 20, 2006, 10:23:15 Can I jsut add....the teacher that was sacked worked in a Church of England school! ENGLAND!!! ffs, it pisses me off!
Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: spacey on Friday, October 20, 2006, 10:41:17 Pfft, making them take their veils off! That's not taking it nearly far enough. They should be made to walk around semi-naked, maybe they could partake in that great British tradition of underage pregnancy with a drug habit for good measure. Not only would we have the privilege of paying for them to be chauffered around in diamond encrusted taxis, we could fork out more for the single mother community centres and drug relapse rehabilitation centres that look after our good old work avoiding white British scum. They should cut their heads off live on the national Lottery, maybe have a lotto extra draw using their heads with a number carved on the front....let's get those big money heads rolling!
When us Brits go abroad we go out of our way to fit in with the local traditions and customs. We do this by complaining about the food, getting steaming drunk, kicking the shit out of Johnny foreigner and then vomiting on some slags tits in the street. The look of surprise on our faces and the way we blame everyone else as we're deported is something we Brits are the best in the world at. God save the Queen Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, October 20, 2006, 10:47:53 Quote from: "Piemonte" That Aussie Article is great. No doubt some faggots will find that type of language massively offensive and "racist". Its not. Its just the blunt truth about how things are. deffinitely. wish our fucking country would take the same stance Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: janaage on Friday, October 20, 2006, 11:04:13 Quote from: "spacey" Pfft, making them take their veils off! That's not taking it nearly far enough. They should be made to walk around semi-naked, maybe they could partake in that great British tradition of underage pregnancy with a drug habit for good measure. Not only would we have the privilege of paying for them to be chauffered around in diamond encrusted taxis, we could fork out more for the single mother community centres and drug relapse rehabilitation centres that look after our good old work avoiding white British scum. They should cut their heads off live on the national Lottery, maybe have a lotto extra draw using their heads with a number carved on the front....let's get those big money heads rolling! When us Brits go abroad we go out of our way to fit in with the local traditions and customs. We do this by complaining about the food, getting steaming drunk, kicking the shit out of Johnny foreigner and then vomiting on some slags tits in the street. The look of surprise on our faces and the way we blame everyone else as we're deported is something we Brits are the best in the world at. God save the Queen That's like something Merton would come out with on H.I.G.N.F.Y. Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: janaage on Friday, October 20, 2006, 11:04:53 And that's Paul not Mrs by the way.
Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: pauld on Friday, October 20, 2006, 11:52:10 Spacey is just pure fucking class. Personally I think Yeovil should be made to wear a veil. There y'are - that's my twopennorth, worth the time, eh?
Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: janaage on Friday, October 20, 2006, 12:02:18 I think everyone going in the town end next match should wear a veil and see the stewards/police reaction. Would be class.
Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: Piemonte on Friday, October 20, 2006, 12:05:25 Quote from: "janaage" I think everyone going in the town end next match should wear a veil and see the stewards/police reaction. Would be class. then kick off with them big time :twisted: Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: ron dodgers on Friday, October 20, 2006, 14:08:25 veil/hoody - what's the difference
Title: Question Time - The veil debate Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, October 20, 2006, 17:01:30 I think the point here is that if it was a Christian (or anyone of any other faith) not wearing a veil in a Muslim school they would be sacked. And that's assuming that the muslim school would employ them in the first place, which they wouldn't. It's not prejudice, it's common sense.
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