Title: Big Ron Manager Post by: farmer geoff on Tuesday, September 26, 2006, 21:14:03 Everyone watch it now. its about swindon
Title: Big Ron Manager Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, September 26, 2006, 21:16:04 It's on sky isn't it? watch it and tell me what happens.
Title: Big Ron Manager Post by: kaufman on Tuesday, September 26, 2006, 22:02:19 watch about 40 minutes of it and i thought it was boring!
not much happened apart from i laughed when bryan robson was speaking to ron on the phone as you could tell robson felt a right knob doing it. bless iffy but he was out of his depth Title: Big Ron Manager Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, September 26, 2006, 22:04:54 Quote from: "kaufman" watch about 40 minutes of it and i thought it was boring! Well it was rather lacking in car chases.... .....oh wait a minute..... WHAT DO YOU FUCKING EXPECT???!!!?????? Title: Big Ron Manager Post by: farmer geoff on Tuesday, September 26, 2006, 22:10:37 nothing really that we didnt already know
Title: Big Ron Manager Post by: santini on Tuesday, September 26, 2006, 22:18:45 Quote from: "farmer geoff" nothing really that we didnt already know Yep. Big Ron is an arrogant tosser. Full of hot air and full of himself and as thick as two short planks. Iffy is an intellectual genius by comparison.He saw through the bullsh*t and dumbing down and wouldn't play their contrived TV games. Good on him. Title: Big Ron Manager Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, September 26, 2006, 22:24:13 I thought that potentially, Big Ron could have been very useful to us. I know a lot of people on this forum don't like him but he has a wealth of knowledge and experience.
However, for that to have been really effective, Ron would have had to have shown true humility and remorse for his Desailly 'Lazy Nigger' comments. Iffy also needed to see the whole exercise as something other than a publicity stunt for Big Ron. If 'BR' had contacted Iffy before filming and said' "Let's go for a beer Iffy and get to know each other and I will tell you how gutted I was over the Desailly incident" then things could have been a lot different. Sadly though, Ron couldn't really see what he did wrong. I was a bit disappointed with Harry Basset's and (particularly) Kamara's responses in the programme which were very pro-Ron. I'm glad Sky bothered to show it anyway. Title: Big Ron Manager Post by: kaufman on Tuesday, September 26, 2006, 22:51:46 Quote from: "OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR" Quote from: "kaufman" watch about 40 minutes of it and i thought it was boring! Well it was rather lacking in car chases.... .....oh wait a minute..... WHAT DO YOU FUCKING EXPECT???!!!?????? easy tiger!!! i was hoping for a few arguement and a few things we did not know before but as someone else has just said, nothing we did not already know. agree that he could have been better used though. Title: Big Ron Manager Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, September 27, 2006, 07:35:28 Thought it was a bit harsh to blame Iffy for the Rory situation too.
The guy was going to go whatever Iffy said, and the board were always going to sell him whatever Iffy said. They needed the cash and his contract was coming up. Title: Big Ron Manager Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, September 27, 2006, 10:12:27 we could of had lloyd dyer, but ended up with albert jarret. apart from that didn't learn anything new. iffy didn't want to know tbh
Title: Big Ron Manager Post by: Frigby Daser on Wednesday, September 27, 2006, 22:06:39 It absolutely drives me mad watching the arrogant fool Ron Atkinson on tv - such a has been and never comes out with anything your gran couldn't say about a game...'ooh, thats a good goal', as someone knocks in an overhead kick from 461 yards...
They played up Iffy being too weak to handle him too much - the fact is, not many people could handle Ron - he throws his weight around, shows off his gold rings...the man couldn't even push his own bags through the airport! Yes, in hindsight it would've been nice to have Lloyd Dyer over Jarrett - but we weren't to know he'd be in a car crash. The best bit had to be when it became clear that treor Benjamin was Ron's idea! Iffy came out of it well...the mans a star and I'd love him to get back inot the league and succeed. Title: Big Ron Manager Post by: fatbury on Thursday, September 28, 2006, 07:26:05 Showed what a crap manager Iffy was IMO - should ALWAYS take any help you can get
Title: Big Ron Manager Post by: Leggett on Thursday, September 28, 2006, 11:49:41 are you sill here fatbury?
Title: Big Ron Manager Post by: Bushey Boy on Thursday, September 28, 2006, 12:00:22 fatbury has no clue, after all he wanted trollope as our manager and hes doing a sterling job at rovers after all
Title: Big Ron Manager Post by: SwindonStevo on Thursday, September 28, 2006, 12:01:20 At the end of the day the aim of a programme was to make a new manager to the game look like a mug and to make Ron Atkinson look good. They tried it with iffy and they did it with Steve Bleasdale. The difference was iffy saw through it early on and wasn’t having it, and Mark Devlin backed him like any good chairman or chief executive should do. (Barry Fry, maybe you could learn a thing or two)
I think Devlin also said "Iffy saw it as rehabilitation for Ron, and didn’t want to be a part of that" and I totally agree with Iffy. I think the fact Iffy was black also played a vital part in it. It also shows you a lot about the men when you consider everything Iffy had bad to say about Ron on camera he said to his face as well, Ron just slagged him off on camera and didn’t want to know face to face. If Ron cared about making the programme properly in the first place he wouldn’t have been in Barbados while we were losing to Gillingham away. I also agree with Iffy in that Ron should have offered to go for a beer with him before hand and clear the air off camera before starting the programme, but everything had to be on camera. P.S Ron: "If we’d have carried on like that i might have had the guns blazing" shut up Ron you'd get smashed :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: And if you don’t want to read all that, the jist of the post was iffy was right, rons a cunt. Title: Big Ron Manager Post by: Leggett on Thursday, September 28, 2006, 12:05:19 obviously the arsenal forums have banned him...
Title: Big Ron Manager Post by: SwindonStevo on Thursday, September 28, 2006, 12:11:35 Forgot to mention they was also making him look a cunt for going for lea peacock instead of using Ron’s contacts for a loan from West Brom or somewhere. in hindsight again it was some 18 year old forward from West Brom who wouldn’t be here now or done much for us or the cock. Nice one for the programmes sake but the fans know what the best decision was after all the failed King loans last year. Was surprised they actually showed Peacock scoring on his debut.
Maybe Iffy could have got maybe one slightly better player with Ron's contacts as well, but he had already seen by that point that he was a cunt who was trying to use him to get a job doing something again and wasnt having it. Title: Big Ron Manager Post by: Run_the_bath on Thursday, September 28, 2006, 18:35:23 What was the actual idea of the programme anyway?
Ron most undoubtedly would have a few good contacts but apart from that hes nothing but a has-been. |