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Title: Drop roberts
Post by: Piemonte on Monday, September 18, 2006, 11:32:30
He was crap saturday and didnt appear arsed. I think we all agree on that. but what would you do about it?

I'd go for the bollocking option personally


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 18, 2006, 11:33:33
On his game he is our best striker, end of.  He had a poor game Saturday, but I think 8 or 9 others did too.


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: Piemonte on Monday, September 18, 2006, 11:40:38
I'm not trying to single out Roberts for critism here, like batch says 8/9 were crap.

For me him and Evans were 2 of the worst players in our side which is bizarre given their form so far this season.


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: janaage on Monday, September 18, 2006, 11:46:43
I don't actually think Roberts was that "uninterested" on Saturday, just everything he tried didn't come off and Peacock was equally as poor, which could be down to the service.


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: SwindonStevo on Monday, September 18, 2006, 11:48:35
i think very few players had bad games. i think nicholas had a bad game and obviously the mistake from brezovan, but the majority wasnt that bad...it was just playing not being themselfs and just not turning up really.

Peacock and roberts did nothing, evans wasnt himself, weston went missing. i dont think there was many awfull performances just some of our best players not at the races. i think ady williams was possibly the only one who turned up and had a fairly good game.


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: fatbury on Monday, September 18, 2006, 11:52:29
I think id freshen it up a bit .. give the Cock and Roberts place to Fola and Brownlie for a game .. if they fail .. then it should have given the other two a decent rest and kick up the arse they needed


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: Stef Troll on Monday, September 18, 2006, 12:21:05
Either drop Roberts or drop Peacock.  I dont think the partnership is working atm


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: rudeboydreas on Monday, September 18, 2006, 13:16:30
Don't drop him, just sub him if he isn't playing well. I get the feeling he won't be off the pitch unless he is injured this season, which is an excuse to fall into old habits.


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: sonic youth on Monday, September 18, 2006, 14:09:32
not suggesting he's immune to being dropped, but definitely don't think it'd be wise to chuck him out the team.

give him a bollocking and let him prove himself against notts county.

i don't think he looked disinterested per se, just very frustrated. that needless foul he gave away for their goal was evident of that.


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: Stef Troll on Monday, September 18, 2006, 14:33:13
The problem with both Roberts and Peacock is that their goals to game ratios are pretty poor.

With Parkin, Mooney, Cureton (after his loan spell), you were confident that reguardless of how shit they individually or the team as a whole were playing, they could nick a goal or slot away the chance presented to them.  However with Roberts and Peacock, i don't get that same feeling.

Peacock isn't a striker who will score 20 goals a season,  but then again hes a player who will play his heart out for the team, do the dirty work upfront, and run tiredlessly chasing so called lost causes.

Roberts is the out and out striker who is expected to get the 20 goals a season.

Both players have merits to be in the team, but unless they both combine and collectively score more goals for the team, then it may be time to try a different striking pair upfront.  When we had Parkin and Fallon upfront, the combination never worked because both strikers were similar.  It may just be that a different partner for either Roberts or Peacock may just potentially unlease the goals which all us fans are craving for.


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: Piemonte on Monday, September 18, 2006, 14:37:19
I still think it can work.

Roberts needs to get closer to Peacock though. Too often on saturday when a flick on was fianlly won, there was no-one within 20 yards to try and pick up the pieces.

I suspect Dennis may work on that this week.


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: larwood on Monday, September 18, 2006, 14:38:12
Quote from: "janaage"
I don't actually think Roberts was that "uninterested" on Saturday, just everything he tried didn't come off and Peacock was equally as poor, which could be down to the service.

I'd agree with that,bit hard doing anything when the ball is always flying over your head out of play....HOOF! Just like last season  :( it doesn't work boys when you've got two fairly short men up front and your playing against a team full of six foot gaints :x


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, September 18, 2006, 16:04:48
Quote from: "Piemonte"
I still think it can work.

Roberts needs to get closer to Peacock though. Too often on saturday when a flick on was fianlly won, there was no-one within 20 yards to try and pick up the pieces.

I suspect Dennis may work on that this week.


He's mentioned it in interviews that they'll be practising 'the basics' this week.

i.e. How to score goals and not conceed them


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: janaage on Monday, September 18, 2006, 16:09:35
Ifil and Williams were ok, to be fair Peterborough didn't get much out of them two, just the mistake by Brezovan, that's all.


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: Spencer_White on Monday, September 18, 2006, 16:33:45
Hes been one of our best players this season. When he has the chance to turn and run with the ball he is THE most exciting player in the division.

Im sure he will get more space and better balls on saturday.

The problem on saturday was more with the midfield (IMHO).


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: DV on Monday, September 18, 2006, 16:46:00
strike 1 of 2....

Play like that again and hes on the bench...


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: yeo on Monday, September 18, 2006, 19:10:41
I think after having 1 bad game he should be stretched on a rack and put in the stocks for a week.


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: Red Len on Monday, September 18, 2006, 20:26:43
Quote from: Spencer_White
Hes been one of our best players this season.

Indeed. Roberts is the current player of the month after all. Sure, he didn't play that well on Saturday, but he only had one decent chance to score (unlucky to hit the post) and was clearly frustrated.
The problem lies in midfield, no real creativity and a distinct lack of service from out wide. Wisey needs to sort that out first, which if he does, will lead to Roberts menacing defences once more I'm sure.


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: santini on Monday, September 18, 2006, 21:20:08
Roberts' job is to read moves, get in the box and be in a position to finish. He hasn't done that enough. Drifting out to the touchline or back to half way takes away options for our midfield or full backs. That's why we're increasingly ineffective going forwards.


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: rudeboydreas on Tuesday, September 19, 2006, 06:47:13
It was the effort where Fola ran clear on the left wing, cut in and had to play the ball into the middle, Roberts should have been at the edge of the 6 yard box, he wasn't even in the area was he? That's basic stuff, christ all of us know where to be in that situation, why the fuck could Roberts not see that?


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: Stef Troll on Saturday, September 23, 2006, 16:00:03
Worked a treat today.  Onibuje seemed to cause Notts County many a problem, and i hope he plays next week against both Wycombe andBoston.


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: sonic youth on Saturday, September 23, 2006, 16:00:49
how did it work? we didn't win.


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: DV on Saturday, September 23, 2006, 16:07:20
we scored a goal, which is more than we did last week....


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: Stef Troll on Saturday, September 23, 2006, 16:07:40
Can't say i went to the game, but by all accounts on the radio Onibuje ran around, looked busy and hassled the defence and scored a goal.  I doubt Roberts would have had a similar impact if he started.  If Roberts started, he probably wouldnt have scored, and we would have lost,  so in a way it did work


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: Bennett on Saturday, September 23, 2006, 16:19:35
sigh

the fact is we all listened to it on the radio

shall we not bother second guessing events in nottingham at the word of some mindless fools with microphones?


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: sonic youth on Saturday, September 23, 2006, 16:38:40
Quote from: "StefPol"
... by all accounts ...  I doubt ... probably wouldnt ... would have ...


if's and but's and nothing else.


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: Stef Troll on Saturday, September 23, 2006, 17:08:56
Well hopefully Onibuje gets a prolonged spell in the team for Town which will then hopefully proove my theory right


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: Johno on Saturday, September 23, 2006, 18:16:58
was surprised to see he was dropped, but onibuje scored so?


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: reeves4england on Saturday, September 23, 2006, 21:40:45
Quote from: "StefPol"
If Roberts started, he probably wouldnt have scored, and we would have lost
Obviously  :?


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: DMR on Saturday, September 23, 2006, 23:05:07
Quote from: "sonic youth"
how did it work? we didn't win.


did you even go today? it worked as fola scored a fucking mint goal and caused mayhem at times, whereas roberts, after one early snapshot, did piss all. again.


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, September 24, 2006, 09:42:31
Quote from: "dave_m_russell"
Quote from: "sonic youth"
how did it work? we didn't win.


did you even go today? it worked as fola scored a fucking mint goal and caused mayhem at times, whereas roberts, after one early snapshot, did piss all. again.


Bit unfair Dave. I thought Roberts was good when he came on, even if he did tire quite quickly.

Peacock passes the ball in the net and its all over.  :x

All in all, much better than other recent showings.


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: DMR on Sunday, September 24, 2006, 11:14:03
Yeah it was an improvement, but I agree withg what you said there Spence, Roberst played 20 minutes and looked knackered... fitness?


Title: Drop roberts
Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, September 24, 2006, 12:27:09
Quote from: "dave_m_russell"
Quote from: "sonic youth"
how did it work? we didn't win.


did you even go today? it worked as fola scored a fucking mint goal and caused mayhem at times, whereas roberts, after one early snapshot, did piss all. again.


yes i went dave, i managed to post on here about 5 minutes after full-time  :D

not denying that fola had an impact - he clearly did - but the way stefpol is going on, you would think we'd won 8-0 with fola scoring all eight goals.

fact is, dropping roberts and bringing in fola who scored doesn't exactly prove anything. if roberts doesn't score for the rest of the season and fola racks up 'nuff goals, then stef's opinion will be vindicated.

otherwise it's all "what if?" and "maybe" etc.