Title: get brown in the team Post by: Arriba on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 19:40:42 so he wanted to leave,whoopee fucking doo.he is still our player and it doesn't look like he's going anywhere now.he is a decent left sided player who is more than capable to shine in league 2 for stfc.play him,or at least have him on the bench.
Title: Re: get brown in the team Post by: Bennett on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 19:45:35 Quote from: "arriba" 1.so he wanted to leave,whoopee fucking doo.2. he is still our player and it doesn't look like he's going anywhere now.3. he is a decent left sided player who is more than capable to shine in league 2 for stfc.4. play him,or at least have him on the bench. 1. yes he did. cos he thought himself too good for us, that's twattish 2. that is the case, as he's not actually that good 3. where have you seen this evidence? 4. if he doesn't want to be here and makes it quite clear through his appaling efforts in pre season i don't think you can justify putting him near the team Title: get brown in the team Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 19:48:38 Monky will do for me.
Title: get brown in the team Post by: DV on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 19:50:04 no thanks, regardless of what he can or can not do on the football, I want him no where near my team....
....he clearly doesnt want to be here, he's come back purely because no one else wants him and we should let him rot Whether he is a decent footballer is irrelevant, he's a cunt Title: get brown in the team Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 19:54:28 For once, i agree with DV85.
Title: get brown in the team Post by: Leggett on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 19:59:43 nope, until he publicly apologises for being a big-headed cunt, i dont want him anywhere near a town shirt thankyou.
Title: get brown in the team Post by: STFCere on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 20:03:44 the guy is a twat, we dont need him, he doesnt want us. let him rot in the reserves. wise is making the right decision.
Title: get brown in the team Post by: Arriba on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 20:08:06 almost every player is in it for themself.get over loyalty and all that.its long gone in the modern game.brown is easily good enough for our first 11 and thats enough for me.
how many players kiss badges and run to fans and all that then jump ship.brown has done nothing more than most other pros would Title: get brown in the team Post by: DV on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 20:11:48 we've won both games so far and Brown has been no where near the first team. I dont see what the actual problem is.
In Wise We Trust. Of course, you are discounting the fact the players might not want him back in team, which could disrupt the dressing room and divide the team or whatever Title: get brown in the team Post by: @MacPhlea on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 20:25:21 <cough> Billy no mates </cough>
Title: get brown in the team Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 20:44:49 Makes you wonder why he left Shity.
Title: get brown in the team Post by: Boeta on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 21:39:46 im not saying whether brown is better than monkhouse because ive seen little of either but i just dont by this 'he's a twat so don't pick him'. he's not your mate, he happens to play for the football team you support and if it gives them a better chance of winning so be it
Title: get brown in the team Post by: DV on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 21:40:47 but we've won all our games so far, cant get a better chance of winning than that....
Title: get brown in the team Post by: Boeta on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 21:55:06 yeah but that's not tbe argument either
Title: get brown in the team Post by: red macca on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 21:57:54 let the cunt rot...at reading he was shit and supermarine he was shit at the end of the games i made a point of watching him and he was the only person not to clap the fans he just walked straight off whether you are loyal or not you should allways clap your fans..arriba go down and watch them train and tell me if brown is liked or not
Title: get brown in the team Post by: DV on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 21:59:55 Quote from: "Boeta" yeah but that's not tbe argument either Yes it is... Our team is winning without Aaron Brown, therefore there is no need for him Title: get brown in the team Post by: Luci on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 21:59:58 Quote from: "Boeta" im not saying whether brown is better than monkhouse because ive seen little of either but i just dont by this 'he's a twat so don't pick him'. he's not your mate, he happens to play for the football team you support and if it gives them a better chance of winning so be it It angers me to hear that a player thinks he can do "better" and play in a higher divison. That is not furthering his career, just being disrespectful to our club without reason (in the view he didnt have another team lined up to go to) Seeing Brown play recently he looks uninterested, lazy and streets behind the others in terms of fitness......At the present time I don't think Monkey sets the world alight, however wants to be here and will definitely end up playing a useful role for us. That is just my opinion. Title: get brown in the team Post by: Boeta on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 22:04:50 Quote from: "STFCLady" Quote from: "Boeta" im not saying whether brown is better than monkhouse because ive seen little of either but i just dont by this 'he's a twat so don't pick him'. he's not your mate, he happens to play for the football team you support and if it gives them a better chance of winning so be it It angers me to hear that a player thinks he can do "better" and play in a higher divison. That is not furthering his career, just being disrespectful to our club without reason in what sense? its what parkin did wasn't it? yeah brown isn't as good and it didn't work out but you can't moan a bloke for wanting to play at a higher standard Title: get brown in the team Post by: Arriba on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 22:07:41 Quote from: "red macca" arriba go down and watch them train and tell me if brown is liked or not i have better things to do with my time.my judgement is made on matches played that i have seen. sheringham and cole didn't do to bad though did they.as an example Title: get brown in the team Post by: Luci on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 22:07:49 The point is Parkin at the time was capable of playing in a higher league whereas I have never thought Brown was capable in a league higher than league 1 (obviously league two now). Surely the fact that he is still here says something?
If the talent is there for him to play at a higher level then so be it but IMO it isn't in Browns case. Title: get brown in the team Post by: DV on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 22:10:24 Quote from: "arriba" Quote from: "red macca" arriba go down and watch them train and tell me if brown is liked or not i have better things to do with my time.my judgement is made on matches played that i have seen. Aaron Brown hasnt had a good game since, he left and came back though. He's been truely shocking and all over the place... Title: get brown in the team Post by: Boeta on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 22:13:19 Quote from: "STFCLady" The point is Parkin at the time was capable of playing in a higher league whereas I have never thought Brown was capable in a league higher than league 1 (obviously league two now). Surely the fact that he is still here says something? you can't blame the man for trying to better himself all i'm saying if is he's shit then fair enough but nothing else matters in whether he plays or not. you don't know him so to call him a cunt for wanting to play a better standard (whether he's good enough or not) is deluded Title: get brown in the team Post by: Leggett on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 22:13:42 Quote from: "Boeta" in what sense? its what parkin did wasn't it? yeah brown isn't as good and it didn't work out but you can't moan a bloke for wanting to play at a higher standard parkin didnt say he was too good for our league, parkin didnt say he didnt want to play for us, parkin didnt get a trial away from us, then return with his tail between his legs when he got sent back... parkin went about his transfer the right way, it was obvious he could do a job at a higher level (unfortunately we're yet to see it tho :( ) and i do not begrudge him moving clubs. brown, however, is just a twat. a journeyman player, nothing hugely special, and most of all, it would appear his attitude fuckin stinks. Title: get brown in the team Post by: Luci on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 22:16:28 Quote from: "Boeta" Quote from: "STFCLady" The point is Parkin at the time was capable of playing in a higher league whereas I have never thought Brown was capable in a league higher than league 1 (obviously league two now). Surely the fact that he is still here says something? you can't blame the man for trying to better himself all i'm saying if is he's shit then fair enough but nothing else matters in whether he plays or not. you don't know him so to call him a cunt for wanting to play a better standard (whether he's good enough or not) is deluded I never called him that once so please be accurate. Im perfectly aware I don't know him but every footballer wants to play at a better standard. Doesnt mean they're good enough though does it! Players like him thinking they're "too good" for STFC IMO are deluded. Title: get brown in the team Post by: red macca on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 22:16:40 parkin even signed a new contract when im sure he could of got his move then
Title: get brown in the team Post by: Stef Troll on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 22:30:07 Brown is a shit player. The only good thing hes done for Town was score that goal against City. Other then that hes consistantly performed below par for Town. At least Monkhouse tracks back and defends
Title: get brown in the team Post by: Bennett on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 22:41:15 i think you'll find he(monkhouse) was just stood their accidently stef...but i get your point and endorse it
Title: get brown in the team Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, August 10, 2006, 22:42:07 the brown apologists are pathetic.
what sort of message does it send out to the rest of the team when you can demand a transfer, go on trial elsewhere but not get offered a contract, then come back and walk straight into our first team? if there's an easier way to destroy team spirit, then i can't think of one. it's a team game, if every fucker was only out for themselves then we'll be in the same place as oxford next season. i've never liked him, everyone knows that and i'll openly admit that but drawing comparisons with parkin is ridiculous - parkin earnt himself the right to move to a bigger club/higher division with three consistent seasons of superb goalscoring. brown's only been here since december and he's been utterly shit for the vast majority of that time. the only worthwhile contribution i can recall him making was scoring against bristol city. monkhouse hasn't impressed in his first two games for the club, give the boy time. if he's still not improved by this time next month then perhaps brown should be given another chance but ONLY if he proves his worth in training and improves his attitude, otherwise i'm sure david stroud would be more than happy to have another crack at first team football. brown does not deserve to be at this football club. Title: get brown in the team Post by: Doore on Friday, August 11, 2006, 10:30:35 I am actually undecided on this whole issue. Interesting question to all anti-Brown campaigners though, if Monkhouse was to get injured or suspended, would you want Brown back in the side? I personally would, as he would be the best option, and all I really care about is our club winning games.
Title: get brown in the team Post by: McLovin on Friday, August 11, 2006, 10:56:53 If Brown bucks his ideas up and puts in the effort, you have to pick your best team - and if that includes Brown, then so be it.
P.S He was great against FGR. Title: get brown in the team Post by: Batch on Friday, August 11, 2006, 11:01:32 Pretty much agree with Doore.
The way I see it. Brown was a complete tit and shouldn't have done/said what he did. He deserves what he gets from that respect. However, if he is our best option on the pitch then for the good of the team he plays. That's Wises call. Title: get brown in the team Post by: Stef Troll on Friday, August 11, 2006, 11:02:07 Quote from: "Doore" I am actually undecided on this whole issue. Interesting question to all anti-Brown campaigners though, if Monkhouse was to get injured or suspended, would you want Brown back in the side? I personally would, as he would be the best option, and all I really care about is our club winning games. I'd go into the loan market to see if we could find a suitable replacement. Failing that, i'd either have to stick him in the team, or maybe play Brownlie behind the front two strikers - and play 3 in the midfield. My reasons for thinking Brown is a crap player do not stem from the fact that he wants to leave the club. Wisey brought Monkey into the club as a first choice player probably because he thought Brown wasn't up to the job. I hope Brown prooves me wrong, gets into the team and then wins player of the year award. However unless Brown ups his game by a few notches, i can't see that happening myself. Title: get brown in the team Post by: juddie on Friday, August 11, 2006, 11:06:34 I can see why Brown's name has been mentioned - I'm yet to be convinced by Monkhouse - he should be a decent player for us but so far has looked a bit lightweight and a tad pedestrian. As for Brown, I've not been impressed with him at all. Like Shakes a bit rough around the edges, but Shakes is still cutting his teeth in the game, Brown's been around the block and is still ropey.
Plus Monky is new to the team, he has confidence and a bit of arrogane, Brown will be acking himself if he played because a) he's used to losing and b) he knows the crowd wcould turn on him. If it ain't broke don't fix it. More pressing is the need to replace Pook and perhaps Nicho... Title: get brown in the team Post by: DV on Friday, August 11, 2006, 11:56:26 if Monkhouse got injured, then David Stroud all the way....
Title: get brown in the team Post by: juddie on Friday, August 11, 2006, 12:00:58 or what about sticking roberts on ther wing and brownlie up top with the peaconator?
Title: get brown in the team Post by: Doore on Friday, August 11, 2006, 12:04:05 Roberts isn't a winger, he's a centre forward, and should be used only as such.
Title: get brown in the team Post by: Cookie on Friday, August 11, 2006, 12:13:44 He also scored a great goal against Brentford.
Title: get brown in the team Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Friday, August 11, 2006, 12:15:01 Monkhouse needs time folks. Broen can fuck off for all i care
Title: get brown in the team Post by: sonic youth on Friday, August 11, 2006, 12:55:40 Quote from: "Doore" I am actually undecided on this whole issue. Interesting question to all anti-Brown campaigners though, if Monkhouse was to get injured or suspended, would you want Brown back in the side? I personally would, as he would be the best option, and all I really care about is our club winning games. as i said, if brown had proved himself in training and his attitude had improved then he deserves the chance but frankly i don't think either is very likely and he'll be gone by the end of september. Title: get brown in the team Post by: Rich Pullen on Friday, August 11, 2006, 12:59:04 Wise will use him at some point, or else he would have kept him on the transfer list. We have to deal with that, I don't like him for his attitude towards this club either.
Monkhouse can be injury prone (according to Rotherham fans) and Brown would be an ideal replacement in that sense. Title: get brown in the team Post by: Doore on Friday, August 11, 2006, 13:12:10 Quote from: "RichPullen" Monkhouse can be injury prone (according to Rotherham fans) and Brown would be an ideal replacement in that sense. Thats what I was thinking. You have to be practical, think with your head not your heart. Yes, Brown didn't behave in the best manner, but football is riddled with these stories. Gerrard said he wanted to leave liverpool last summer, then changed his mind. Ashley Cole had illegal talks with Chelsea last summer, but still played for Arsenal last season, and played well. Title: get brown in the team Post by: juddie on Friday, August 11, 2006, 13:57:29 yeah but Gerrard and Cole are world beaters, and regardless of what they did you would keep them. If Sam parkin after season two said he wanted to leave and stayed, you'd think - ok, but of an arse but fair play, he'll still do a job for us. Brown won't because he's not good enough - simple as that. He has done very little to make me think he's good enough to play for us - I'd rather wait for Monky to get going or give a kid a chance.
Title: get brown in the team Post by: Doore on Friday, August 11, 2006, 13:59:59 Well he impressed me at times last year, but is inconsistent. I will stick to my point though, that if Monkhouse was unavailable, Brown would be in my side.
Title: get brown in the team Post by: magnum150 on Friday, August 11, 2006, 21:31:08 Stroudy for me, Browner can play out his contract in the reserves for all I care.
Title: get brown in the team Post by: lebowski on Saturday, August 12, 2006, 09:35:05 if brown was half as good as he thinks he is, then he'd be in the starting 11, no questions asked, and we would have scouts from other clubs flocking to see him. as it is, he went on trial at doncaster rovers, and they didn't even want to sign him for free. monkhouse everytime for me - didn't see hartlepool away but sounded like a backs-to-the-wall effort by the whole team, and then against barnet he looked comfortable as part of the team (i.e. he was just as frustratingly inconsistant as everyone else out there)
Title: get brown in the team Post by: SwindonTownFC on Saturday, August 12, 2006, 10:13:43 my opinion is that Brown is better than Monkhouse BUT i agree that you cant play Brown at the moment, like Sonic said would ruin all team spirit for someone to walk back into the team after demanding a transfer, its all up to Brown now, if he trains well and performs and Wise thinks he deserves to start, thats fine with me, i have nothin against Brown to be fair, he 1 of our better players
Title: get brown in the team Post by: reeves4england on Saturday, August 12, 2006, 10:35:34 I do not doubt his ability. He is a decent player.
But having said what he said he needs to come out and work hard, prove to the gaffer that he is good enough to get into the team, and then put in some fucking good performances to get the fans off his back Maybe next time he plays we can start chanting "cheerio cheerio cheerio" or something to give him the message he needs to sort it out. Better than booing him at any rate |