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Excellent news.  Glad they're keeping us updated with progress for a change. Shame hes not back from holiday before the Hartlepool game if he were to sign.......

At least we know that we won't  know for a while.

Still think he would be an immense signing - would probably take him a couple of weeks to get match fit though, like wisey - doubt he has been training since he left Wolves....

Here's to hope!

lets just hope it works out. can only see his wages as a stumbling block really so fingers crossed

I suppose it depends on how keen he is to start his coaching.

true true

I hope that the national coverage hasn't given any of the clubs after him at a higher level the idea to offer a coaching role as an incentive.

I hope the thought of persistent harassment from The Adver and BBC Radio Wiltshire doesn't scare him off. I know for a fact that Big Phil was going to be our manager, but Ed Hadwin drove him away.

That could be the case, but perhaps if we offered it him first he may show some preference towards us? Plus the good press we are getting recently could mean we would be a great place for a coach to start out, if we're gonna do well this season it can only bode well for the futures of everyone involved.

Ince's departure from Wolves and subsequent availability was pretty well publicised. With agents involved everyone who was interested would know the score.

I'd guess we aren't the only ones to offer a coaching role and the choice is to play more and work with a mate (us) against play less and earn more (the bigger clubs).

To be fair we did bagsy him, so he should play for us.

so far, the only other offers he's had which have been public knowledge have been from birmingham and west brom.

i'm sure ince still believes he's capable of playing at that level but he's also keen on getting his coaching badges, so perhaps the chance to be a squad member at birmingham or west brom as opposed to a key first team player with us would be an added incentive as it would give him the spare time to work on his coaching badages. obviously both brum & wba would be likely to offer a far better contract than us.

on the other hand, coming to swindon would give him the chance to get far more involved in coaching the first team, he'd be working alongside somebody he is friends with and he'd be a big fish in a small pond in terms of this league as well as getting the chance to play on for a couple of years longer than he might at a higher level.

it's fairly evenly balanced i suppose. i'm trying to think of reasons why we'd be a better option, but it all seems futile as footballers usually seem to choose clubs on the basis of money and we're likely to be far behind in the terms of finances offered to ince than birmingham and west brom  :?

To be honest, Im getting a bit fed up of waiting.

He either wants to sign or he doesnt. Seasons starts in less than 48 hours....

so what? he's at a crossroads in his career, if you forgive the horrible analogy. it's a big decision to make and you can't begrudge him a holiday with his kids, it is the summer hols after all.

even if he doesn't sign before the barnet game, there's still 44 league games to go.

He had a major disappointment at Wolves and we can't expect him to make a flash decision to join us. He will need to consider his family along with his footballing decisions.

If this deal comes off then it will be well worth the wait........

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every morning i wake up to check if we've signed ince, then go back to bed and wake up at lunchtime hoping we've signed him but it's ot happened yet. i feel like a kid at christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!

YAY

ok, in my expirence people who mull over contract offers dont sign

Rhys Evans, Sean O'Hanlon, Rory Fallon etc....

the longer Ince takes to decide the less likely it is to happen in my opinion.

People know he is a free agent, so he should have had all the offers by now. I accept he has to look through them all...but again it seems like we've been in talks with him for weeks.

As for holidays, hes had since may to have a holiday....yet he chooses now.

Even if he signs after the Barnet game it will still take him a bit to get up to speed, when was the last time he even trained?

He hasn't had ages as he was in the running for the Wolves job.  

If he needs time, let's give him time.

I think it's a done deal and will be bitterly disappointed if this doesn't go ahead.

Also there's a difference between Rhys, Sean and Rory compared to Ince.  Money may not be the major factor here, more likely what role he is to have at the club will be the deciding factor.

Ince has got enough money after 4 or 5 high profile moves, I doubt a couple of grand is going to make that much difference in whether he comes to town or not.

We have Evans for now ... Id play him instead of Pook just on the back of that match at Supermarine .. im sure some loans signings can be made if required ... surpried we havent actually

fair point, but i also remember the parkin deal took ages to complete did it not? don't really think length of time taken to make a decision is directly linked to them not signing for us, you just notice it more when they don't i suppose.

it's not just a case of looking at the small print, but deciding what he wants to do with his career and how he wants to end it and look to the future as well.

his kids wouldn't have finished school in may.

unless i'm mistaken, he was only told to leave wolves last week so would he not have had a full pre-season with them?

Maybe, but remember when Dennis Wise came in....he all happened very very quickly. Same with most of the players this summer...off the top of my head I cant remember being linked with one, having the papers pick it up then said person signing a few weeks later. All the signings thus far have happened rather quickly, not stories of people stalling on contracts



I think its rather obvious what he wants to do, after all he did just apply for the Wolves job, so his mind is defo on coaching/management



I dont know the age of his kids...but you can take kids out of school....unless it was important years and they had exams



Seems like weeks ago....and we keep getting news stories that all seem to be saying the same thing....'we've made contact and are in talks'

I think the coaching aspect is a serious carrot Wise can dangle which could be what pushes him to sign.

I wouldn't replace Pook with Evans so soon to be honest. Pook did well again Premiership Reading which is very hard to compare to Evans who played ok against a non league side.

Reading IMO was a biggest test of fitness and so far, Pook wins hands down for me.

again, there's no real way of proving whether there's a direct correlation between slow contract talks and not signing - unless reg wants to drag out some statistics 8)



of course, but it's whether he wants to coach in the basement division, at a club with a good chance of regaining promotion to the premiership or just focusing on the possible role with england.



only if you're an irresponsible parent!



it was only confirmed on saturday was it not? that's less than a week.

Fuck me your as obsessed as Sade !

 :soapy tit wank:

Evans > Pook

TBH I see a move to Swindon as more high profile than moving to Brum or WBA...

The way I see it is if Ince comes to a small club with a reasonable chance of success this season then the world will be watching - if he has a big influence on training then people will take notice.  If he were at a bigger club amongst a greater number of coaches then he may stuggle to shine (in the eyes of the media/football world) as much as he may do here.

As a career choice I seriously have us down as favourites, plus he would be treated like an absolute hero here - at another Birmingham club he could end up just being the fella that used to play down the road - if that makes sense. :|

I’ve resisted the temptation to get my hopes up to much with Ince.  

What has always struck me as odd is that the rumours kicked of while he was still in the running for the Wolves job. He either knew early on that he was out of the running and or he had it lined up as his second option.

Reading into it a little and going from the press the offers from West Brom and Brum followed McCarthy’s appointment so realistically he’s faced with the decision to carry on as a player for another season or drops into that coaching role.  

The big difference being the wages, he was rumoured to be on about 12k a week with Wolves and presumably if he took the option to carry on playing he could probably earn something in the same region while moving to Town he’ll be taking a big drop in salary.  Plus it’s the decision to effectively draw a line under his playing career at the very top.  No doubt he’d be immense for us in the middle but putting the finances aside for a second it’s a decision on whether he wants to have one more crack at the whip before moving into coaching and management.

The reports of further talks next week are encouraging and probably the first time when something solid is put on the table.  Up until now it seems as if it’s been very much enquiries and testing the water but with so many positives to date it does look quite rosy indeed.

Bruce ruled out a move on Monday this week so it could be down to just West Brom who are rumoured to have offered a 2 year deal and ourselves...

http://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk/0200sport/globalsport/tm_objectid=17476580&method=full&siteid=50002&headline=bruce-goes-back-in-for-mcsheffrey-name_page.html

Not sure about the links to the England job but they seem to be just paper talk at the moment.

Fly in the ointment may be Brian Robson at West Brom who has strong connections with Ince from their United days.  But then again would Ince move to another midlands club after becoming a legend Wolves?

Hopefully the lure of a coaching role, provided West Brom don’t offer similar will be to good to refuse.

The Ince thing is a done deal. He will sign for us upon return from his family holiday. The fact Wise is one of his best mates in the game was a deciding factor.

I'm leaning towards the Grim Reaper :shock:

I think we're going to get our man. Ince will get far more autonomy at STFC than at WBA or B'ham and he will therfore go for a player/coach role working along side Dennis and Gus.

I can see it happening. I really can.

I am fuckin buzzing. FACT! 8)  8)  8)

I can see DV's point about getting fed up with the whole thing but it's not down to Ince, it's the daily coverage in the news about it. However, I quite like this because at least we know what's happening.

It's not really fair to criticise Ince for mulling over what could be the biggesty decision of his life. This could make or break his future in football so it needs time. The fact he's still on holiday probably means the whole family is involved in the decision - does he stay in the Midlands or head south? It's all rather obvious really (Swindon  :wink: )

I don't think time taken has anything to do with it.

We didn't hear anything about our previous signings because nothing was said. In the case of Wise, that Wolves bloke revealed what was going on.

Perhaps if that hadn't happened, we'd still be in the dark? Although i think that was done on purpose...

Anyway, i happen to think he'll sign. The amount of open talk going on, makes us supporters get confident. I fail to see why so much open debate on the subject, with everyone from Ince, his agent and wise contributing, cannot point towards him joining us.

If they were unsure or had doubts, i fail to see how giving the supporters so much hope is a good thing.

I happen to think that dragging the matter out is a superb bit of marketing. This will generate more publicity and will in turn create a far more explosive response from the fans.

Its like going to watch a 3-0 win, vs being 3-0 down and winning 4-3. One is good, one will be taked about for ages. By dragging the Ince deal out, we'll talk about it more.

Think about it, if Ince was signed and he was announced the same day with no prior public knowledge, you'd be happy, but it would be a complete waste of a superb opportunity to generate publicity. You wouldn't be discussing it for days on end, and checking the news feverishly on a regular basis.

the midlands is a dump, there are lots of nices to live in the countryside outside swindon

the midlands is a dump, there are lots of nices to live in the countryside outside swindon[/quote]

There are nice places to live in the midlands as well, some of the smaller towns south and east of Birmingham are nice.  e.g., Solihull.  Also, and this may shock/offend some people, Swindon is not exactly radiating with beauty.

I come from the midlands, and i have to say that its not the niceist (sp) place on earth.

The whole of Britain is all pretty similar to be fair.  Most towns and cities are very non-descript, with uninteresting architecture, the same shops everywhere (M&S, McD's, etc).  If you did a random teleport to any sizeable place in Britain, you would be hard pushed to work out where you were.

Wiltshire a lovely place to live, Swindon is as average as every other large town in the country.

Adver site Wise saying the number 4 shirt is vacant for Ince and has told Weston that if Incey doesnt sign he can have it!!!

Seems quite positive!

Sorry Lady !

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Bugger  :D