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stolen from berniman on the l&p forums

"I dunno whether this has been done yet, but tonight on Talk Sport Radio they had an interview with Steve Bull about becoming Vice President at Wolves.

During the interview the talk got around to Paul Ince. Steve Bull stated that "Paul Ince would not play for Wolves again and that he is going down to join Dennis Wise at Swindon" He stated this was because he wanted a player coach/manager role at Wolves and they were not willing to offer that to him.

Maybe Dennis has offered him the player coach role he yearns for!

Sound like this could be the big signing after all!"

confirmed on wolves forums (thanks rob and tails) here (http://moddedinthemidlands.co.uk/the-wolf/viewtopic.php?t=15014)

If he does sign, I'd be worried about his fitness levels if he hasn't had any pre season training yet!

Rather have Wise playing in the middle.

sweet sounds good, do they do podcast on talk sport?

I'm concerned about this signing... Do we really need Ince?

No, filling the role we have Pook and ...................................

yes we do

on a different note, you'll notice how no one replied to your previous question on this thread a whole 18 minutes beforehand? oh you did. they why ask fundamentally the same fucking question again you fucking plum?

it's gone midnight, the numbers of people on here are minimal so fucking calm down

back to the original point...


michael pook is not a professional footballer. wise and poyet don't appear to want to get their knees grassy so we do need another central midfielder.

we have ben wells and pook who are not good enough

we have whalley injured, seemingly constantly

weston- hurrah that's 1 we can play.

who else will play central midfield then captain smart arse?

i've pressed F5 a lot and no one has responded.....

pook's shit

ince is good

What previous question 18 minutes beforehand? You mean this post?



Wheres the question in that you fucking muppet? Think before you post dickhead.

Even if he can only play a handful of games id happily see him give his experience off the pitch to the other players.

Ince >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pook

fao Tails-

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:21 am
 
If he does sign, I'd be worried about his fitness levels if he hasn't had any pre season training yet!

Rather have Wise playing in the middle.


 Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:39 am    Post subject:  

I'm concerned about this signing... Do we really need Ince?
 

12:39 - 12:21=18 minutes difference

if you read the first then you pretty much get the gist of "why are we signing him?"

"the second "why are we signing him?"

and that was my rational behind my thinking, before i posted.


mwah mwah

Would be brilliant news!

Initially I thought the same. But the more I think abaout it the more it make sense to sign him.

All my opinion, but firstly Wise and Ince probably won't play in the same side, though I could be wrong! I think neither are likely to be up to playing in every match this season.  So one can cover the other. Not bad is it, oh no Ince is injured, we'll have to make do with Wise.

Secondly the experience and winning mentality Ince would bring would be invaluable. He, Wise and Poyet know what it takes to win things.

So whilst Ince arriving would probably mean less games for Wise, it it might all work out well for STFC. Our only aim this season shuld be getting out this league (by being promoted).

good news if that's true but im not sure it is

Do we really need a world class player who has played the vast majority of his career in the Premiership, Serie A and International level and would be an absolute class above at our level?

Oooooooh.....let me think....................








YES OF COURSE WE DO!!!!!!!!!

I'm an avid Talksport listener and listen every day....I never heard this.

can you let us all know why your so concerned?

in what way is he going to have a negative affect on STFC as i presume that is what your concerned about.

I've got to admit I'm really concerned too.  I mean having two ex-internationals in our midfield is bad enough, but if we get Ince that'll make three.  Why, oh why????

This could result in our profile being raised, both locally and nationally, more supporters coming through the turnstiles, I long for the days of a dross midfield which has less bite than a toothless hamster.

This really does concern me.

if he does...great.  8)

As much as I'd like to get excited did anyone actually here this Steve Bull interview?

 :mrgreen:  

BRING BACK HEWLETT

that would be cocking magical. and explain why the number 4 has been left vacant...  :wink:

Berniman and a bunch of Wolves fans.  Seems to have been a late night show on Talk Sport because the Wolves thread started late and mentions "did anyone just hear"

heaven forbid :roll:

Frankly, I am as worried as fuck. This could result in promotion :shock:

£££

We've made this mistake before. I'd rather Wise played in CM tbh.

he wont be coming for money he will be coming for experience..think it will be a great signing played something like 130 games in the last 4 years so is obviously still fit..fuck me he has played more games in 4 years than andy monkhouse and at a higher level

So therefore it would be a mistake this time with different management at the club and a different player involved i.e a totally different situation?????

There is no logic to your argument whatsoever.

"I'd rather Wise played in Championship Manager, Tabatha"?????

OST's right you're point makes no sense.

What sort of wages would he be on, he better not expect alot....

How on earth would we know what wages he would be on?  A) It is a matter dealt with in a private boardroom, we are not there.  B)  He has not signed yet, so to answer this would be like claiming o be able to predict the future.  Even I'm not that clever.  Mind you, Reg might be able to...

As long as Power stays, i think we could afford this luxuary for a year especially if helps gain promotion - which will earn more revenue. Bit of cost benefit thats all.

When it comes to wages I think we have to trust that at this moment in time the finances are being handled sensibly.

It has been stated a number of times by both wise and devlin that this new 'era' at swindon doesn't mean we can splash the cash without thought for the future ramifications.

I don't see any reason why they would suddenly go back on their word and make a signing that places the future financial security of this football club at risk.. As a result I'm comfortable that the £££s are under control.

agreed.

plus the football league still have to ok any signings we make.

Even if we did sign him, which i think would be good, isnt it a bit strange that he is going on holiday at this time? Surely pro footballers take holidays earlier in the summer not a week before the season starts?? Seems like Ince's heart for the game may be wayning a bit? Sorry i think he will be a good signing just think the holiday thing is strange.

Doesn't say he's going on holiday. Says he's going to Portugal for the weekend.

I expect he nips out to his villa whenever he's got a spare few days.

Should be a great motivator for Pook. Should make him work hard for a lifestyle he can only dream about at the moment.

If ince does sign then I reckon him gus and wisey should all start each of the ldv paint whatever it's called nowadays trophey games. Would be a good way of turning otherwise not that important games into big gatee reciepts.

Might be getting a bit ahead of my self there though.

i can't believe people are saying this might not be a good signing.

what possible reason do you having for saying that?

ince has been wolves' best player for the past 4 seasons, he's been a massive influence on their team and that's been in the championship and the premiership. we're in league two, why the fuck wouldn't paul ince be an awesome addition to the squad?

furthermore, he'll be at the club in a player/coach role - can you imagine the impact that training with players such as ince, wise and poyet would have on our youngsters? as wokinghamred says, pook would learn more in a week under ince than he would in a season under onuora or king. the same goes for most of the younger players.

as others have said, the wage structure at the club isn't huge and the people running the club have acknowledged past mistakes and have promised to rectify them - i don't see any reason why they'd risk everything for the sake of one player?

ince would bring a huge amount of influence to this club, both in the team and on the training ground. it would be an amazing coup for a club of our size and in the position we're in.

therefore, anyone who says it wouldn't be a good signing is talking bollocks. utter bollocks.

I think Wise and Poyet should do that regardless to whether Ince joins or not

agreed 100% Sonic Lad

  Stick to the bollocks FB.....would you go to a JPT game just because some old farts were playing....

would ben go to a game anyway?  :D

fair point reg and sonic

And not only that - it's one hell of a statement of ambition which can only help in terms of attracting Prem loanees etc if needed later in the season. And makes Sean O'Turncoat look even stupider for his "Franchise are a bigger club" crack. Dickhead.

bloody right too

can't wait for that cunt to return

September 12th...oh yes...

Why would he want to play third fiddle to Dennis and Gus. He's looking to be a number one somewhere.

Having said that if we did sign ANOTHER high profile household name ex international then surely we would be without doubt the most high profile team to have played in the bottom division for a long long time? Everyone will hate us. Fantastic.  :)

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=406294&CPID=12&clid=46&lid=6&title=Robins+dismiss+Ince+link

dismissed

That means nothing, fact is Ince will roll back the years and feature prominantly in our drive for success!

hmm, strange that it'd appear on that site but there's been nothing from the club through official channels. it's also odd that the person is named only as a clubs spokesman.

i'll wait until devlin himself dismisses it in tomorrow's adver before writing it off completely.

yeah very true, i dont see why steve would bull-shit(sorry) either.

aye, although it doesn't mean steve bull is 100% correct either.

i'm clinging onto this rumour because i desperately want to see it happen!

So am I Sonic.

http://www.walsall-mad.co.uk/news/loadfeat.asp?cid=ED12&id=289513

sorry if this has been posted..probably bollocks though.for now

Argh I don't know what to think. reg, will you tell me?

the fact they cant even get his position right speaks volumes.

In the Mirror today and BBC's rumour page  8)

Hmmm, wonder if the dismissal says we have lost the race to one of the higher league clubs. Though it doesn't say he won't be joining as a player..

bit in todays adver saying that ince has said he wouldnt mind dropping down two divisions if he has to

you've got the adver already!!!?

my brother in law phoned me last night he is a wolves season ticket holder and he said to me " i heard in town today that you lot were signing ince" so the rumour has hit wolverhampton.

he is gutted hes left he said ince has been there best player for the last 2 seasons.

just briefly mentioned something about ince and STFC on sky sports news. wasn't really listening. awaiting full story.

There is a story about it in the Sun today also.  Must mean its gonna come true now  :roll:

Yeah Sky just mentioned the Ince rumour is in the Sun no further update.  Should imagine all will become clearer once he returns from his break.

Express & Star



http://www.expressandstar.com/articles/sport/wolves/article_91995.php

Nowt new really but mentions his desire to play and get his coaching badges at the same time so fits snugly with the rumour mill.

Bit from yesterday's WDP press as well...

I dont want him-big name,yes,but all that self-styled "guvnor" bollocks,I dont want any of it-another potential Ruddock situation in my opinion.Never liked the bloke.

I never liked Wise, but he's doing his damndest to prove he knows his stuff - Ince would be perfect to sit in and let Weston break forward.

From a business perspective sigining Paul Ince would be good...

More shirt sales and name printing, and maybe a couple more bums on seats...

It's all good, but I'll be surprised if he does sign   :(

sorry thats pure bollocks..ince wants to succeed as does wise he has kept himself as fit as anyone else about and wants to make a name for himself.ruddock wanted cash simple as that he has proved that by applying for every fuckin celebrity reality show thats about..tbh honest its a insult to compare ruddock and ince

Hope you're right-still cant stand the bloke though

i don't like ince either but he's a fucking good player and judging by the reactions of wolves fans to his departure, he's certainly still capable of doing something on the pitch.

not fussed about the fact he's a big name, just that he could be awesome in our midfield.

Ince in the midfield for one season would help us no doubt about it.

It's an added bonus that he wants to coach aswell.

WHY THE FUCK DO PEOPLE KEEP COMPARING INCE TO RUDDOCK - THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE FFS!!!

Furthermore, I think we would probably agree that Wisey has done a bang on job so far and is the ultimate professional. Do we seriously believe he would bring in some old hasbeen just because he is his mate?????


......no of course he fucking wouldn't.


Wake up.

ditto the last three posts. wether you like him or not he can still do a job (and a fucking good one im sure in league 2)

his signing would be great for the club in every aspect hes not another ruddock.

From what I've heard Ince was pretty anonymous in the Wolves midfield last year. Not the same all over the pitch combatative player he was in his hayday.

NMH

I've heard different.  I think Dennis has done enough so far thought for us to put our faith in his judgement.

P.S. of course he won't be the same player as he was in his hayday. If he was we wouldn't even be talking to him.

i would suggest you have heard wrong then,when he was fit last year if you look at the stats and shit you will see that wolves results were very good when he wasnt  they didnt do to well..ask most the wolves players and they will tell you the same..the very fact that west brom and birmingham have both made him offers speaks volumes imo

You cant compare people that are the same!FUCK

I don't think I understand :shock:

any two people you compare have to be two different people.

I think that is the thing with the 'beautiful game': Everyone has their own opinion.  I haven't seen Wolves play in years and don't do statistics, so just reported opinions that were relayed to me.

I realise that Ince is not the player that he was, but there is a difference between a player in the twilight of his career and a player that is washed up. I hope he is the former, but what I was told suggested he may be the latter. I wasn't aware of the Brum and WBA stuff until I read your post.

I hope that Ince does sign and that he, Wise and Poyet all play and more importantly all play to the level that we would hope for. That would be a fantastic crowd puller for the second division. It should result in increased attendances and hopefully increased profit. Maybe that profit could then be used to buy younger players so that we can continue to invest in the future.

NMH

Yes, I put that accross rather badly. I'd been out in the sun too long :oops:

I just don't understand why people seem to be making the connection that Ruddock was a very well known player at the tale end of his career who was unfit, past it and generally a bit of a disaster (a very expensive one)  therefore Ince will be the same.......huh??????? :shock:

I wasnt really comparing the two individuals as such-I was comparing the situations;Both nearing forty(Ince in years,Ruddock in stones)both rejected by Championship (div1) sides,both looking to get into coaching(with no evidence that either would be any good at it)and both (in the case of Ince I'm presuming)on pretty high salaries which MAY put us back in the financial shitpile.Im very wary,thats all and would prefer us to invest in another Weston-type player.After all we have enough experience around the place with Wise,Poyet and Williams.

http://www.thisisstfc.co.uk/News_Headlines_Story.asp?NewsID=5709

From thisis, nice to see Wise hasn't signed Evans to compensate for Ince though.

Seems pretty determined. lets keep our fingers crosssed!

Ince will sign.  It's a done deal.

Source?

I'm presuming that comment is based on optimism......

i reckon we will know by tomorrow if he is signing or not

It is from something I've heard, I'd be very surprised if he doesn't sign for us.

Soemthing you heard!  Its official.

I hope that is the case.....I have to admit you aren't one of the bullshitters on here I've come across so you'll have to stand in the naughty corner if it isn't true.

Doore if you are pulling our legs I'm going to have to swear again.