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Reports I am getting from friends in Italy are that Juve, Lazio and Fiorentina are all being relegated and points deducted. JUVE getting a 20 point deduction! Milan stay up but with a 10-15 point deduction. :shock:

I got this:

The Italian media is reporting that Juventus will be relegated in the wake of the match-fixing scandal that has rocked the country.

The reports currently circulating suggest Juventus, the country's most famous club, will be be playing in Serie B next season, with a 15-point deduction.

Two other clubs, Fiorentina and Lazio, are also set share the same fate.

The Italian press also claims that AC Milan will not be relegated, but like Juventus and Fiorentina, will be barred from competing in next season's Champions League competition.

The Italian Football Federation (FIGC) has confirmed the verdicts of the match-fixing trial involving Juventus, AC Milan, Fiorentina and Lazio will be announced this evening.

The announcement regarding the fate of the Serie A clubs, as well as the 25 people under investigation, will be read by the Federal Appeals Commission president Cesare Ruperto in Rome's Parco dei Principi hotel.

Television broadcasters and radio stations will not be allowed to transmit the verdict live.

If the reports are correct, a whole host of top Italian talent could be up for sale, including World Cup winners Fabio Cannavaro and Alessandro Del Piero.

French World Cup final stars Patrick Viera and David Trezeguet have have been linked with Manchester United, while Lilian Thuram could link up again with his old boss Arsene Wenger at Arsenal.

very interesting

Think its a major shame that a country wins the world cup with all their players playing in their own league, yet withing weeks of it they will all be buggering off elsewhere :(

Once again it is the big clubs that get screwed over while the little clubs get away with a fine and slapped, oh, um, er.

In all honesty if that sentance is passed because they are guilty then I guess it is fair. They cheated, they get relagated. To do otherwise would make it look as though cheats do indeed prosper, thus calling my mum a liar and forcing me to go over and headbutt them for the insult.

its part of the reason they won the world cup in the first place though

It is a shame but I think if they have been cheating then they deserve to be punished strictly.
It ruins the game, whats the point in turning up as a fan of the other teams if the big guns are getting away with match-fixing?

A very small part in my view. It did spur them on a bit, but they were already a good team before the tourney and were more willing to go for more goals rather than kill off games

I dont agree with this. not sure if you're referring to all countries because look at what happened to us and we are a relatively small club when we were demoted. however, forest did a similar thing recently and only got a fine. The big premiership clubs I feel also get off a lot more lightly in comparison to the smaller clubs. I don't feel that the punishments are of equal proportion.

I assume your irony detector is malfunctioning then? Or perhaps you don't have one :roll:

I think his Irony Decector must be switched off at the moment  :D

Juve docked 30 points, relegated and stripped of recent titles.

milan stay in serie a but deducted 15 points. Both fiorentina and lazio have been relegated to serie b with the viola getting a 15 points deduction and lazio 7 points deducted.

Get in.

now roma have a chance for next season.

Does that mean our deal for Buffon can go through now?

Lazio and Fiorentina have also been relegated to Serie B

AC Milan not demoted

:D hahah thats mental I didnt expect such harsh punishment to be honest.

Beeeeeb confirmation...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/5164194.stm

What hasn't been mentioned yet as far as I am aware is the fact that 3 of the teams have been relegated, so surely 3 teams must get automatically promoted from Serie B to balance it out?
Same goes with the Champions League you would have thought.

Champions league and UEFA places go to the teams below. It was on Sky News earlier

This means Juve start on -30? :D

they will go to Inter, As roma, Chievo and whoever finished in 7th which i think is palermo

Are these teams on the Stock market?

Yup

Think I'll buy some juve shares when they have completely bottomed out :D

probably. Also Livorno & Empoli in UEFA cup i think these two teams finished in 8 and 9th. I think larwood will be happy coz i think sampdoria will be intertoto if it the european situation has been sorted out. also parma will be in uefa cup

The Federal Appeals Commission President Cesare Ruperto has announced the verdicts in Rome's Parco dei Principi hotel...

Juventus
- Demoted to Serie B.
- 30 points deducted.
- Titles stripped from past two seasons (2005 & 2006).
- Will not take part in the Champions' League.

Fiorentina
- Demoted to Serie B.
- 12 points deducted.
- Will not take part in the Champions' League.

Lazio
- Demoted to Serie B.
- 7 points deducted.
- Will not take part in the UEFA Cup.

AC Milan
- Stay in Serie A.
- 15 points deducted.
- Will not take part in the Champions' League.

The Flying Donkeys in the Champions League  8)

So when does the appeal and verdict on that take place then? Presumably next week?

I'd be suprised if they were we-instated to seria A, but I wouldn't be suprised for the point deduction to be reduced.

i think that the appeal has to be done by the next friday because that is when the clubs who are entered in europe have to enter there squads who are legilbe to play in europe

didn't fiorentina get done a few years back aswell?? And do the titles that juventus won get given to the team that finished second, our are the declared void.

Lets strip Italy of the World Cup as well.. just for fun 8)

they go to inter milan i think. Yes fiorentina went down a couple years ago for going bankrupt

Not a good time for all the fiorentina fans then is it?? Just wondering if juve might go down again next seson. They're (probably) going to lose all their best players and are starting at -30 points. One bad run for them and they'd seriosly struggle. Unless i've missed something.

i think what juve will be doing is leasing some of there best players i.e. Cannavaro, Zambrotta and Emerson to real madrid until the end of the season.

Here’s a brief rundown of all the sentences handed out.

Juventus:
Demoted to last place in 2004-05 season and stripped of that season’s title. Their 2005-06 Serie A title win has also been wiped out. They will start next season in Serie B with 30 point deduction. Former directors Luciano Moggi and Antonio Giraudo banned from football for five years.

Fiorentina:
Relegated to Serie B with 12-point penalty for 2006-07. President Andrea Della Valle banned for three years and six months. His brother Diego, the club’s honorary President, suspended for four years.

Lazio:
Relegated to Serie B with seven-point penalty for 2006-07. President Claudio Lotito banned for three years.

AC Milan:
They stay in Serie A, but will start next season with a 15-point deduction. They are deducted 44 points from last season’s point tally which means they have not qualified for the Champions League. Vice-President Adriano Galliani banned for a year. Rossoneri official Leonardo Meani suspended for three years and six months.

Refereeing officials:
Designator Paolo Bergamo deferred, Pierluigi Pairetto banned for two years and six months. President Tullio Lanese banned two years and six months, Vice-commissioner Gennaro Mazzei banned for a year, observer Pietro Ingargiola cautioned.

Referees:
Massimo De Santis banned for four years and six months, Paolo Dondarini stopped for three years and six months, Gianluca Paparesta banned for three months. Pasquale Rodomonti, Paolo Bertini, Domenico Messina, Gianluca Rocchi and Paolo Tagliavento all cleared.

Linesmen:
Claudio Puglisi and Fabrizio Babini banned for a year.

Italian Football Federation (FIGC) officials:
President Franco Carraro stopped for four years and six months. Vice-President Innocenzo Mazzini suspended for five years.

they have 3 days to lodge a appeal and it has to be sorted out by the 25 or 26th as the italian fa have to submit there teams into europe..

i think thats right anyway...ultra??

Cannevaro will be off, no doubt.
He is 32. He is not going to wait for another 2-3 years to play European football again.

They said the last two seasons serie A titles will be declared void.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/5164194.stm

According to this; Lecce; Messina and Treviso will avoid relegation to Serie B; rather than promoting extra clubs from Serie B.

this is how the table look like now after the result
Inter 76 (Champions League group stage)
Roma 69 (Champions League group stage)
Chievo 54 (Champions League preliminary)
Palermo 52 (Champions League preliminary)
Livorno 49 (UEFA Cup)
Empoli 45 (UEFA Cup) * Pending licence
Parma 45 (UEFA Cup)
Milan 44
Ascoli 43
Udinese 43
Sampdoria 41
Reggina 41
Cagliari 39
Siena 39
Messina 31
Lecce 29
Treviso 21
Lazio (Relegated)
Fiorentina (Relegated)
Juventus (Relegated

i think he went to madrid last week

in the next couple of days on a lease deal.

Good to see the Italian F.A handed out harsh punishments,Juve deserve everything they get,the cheating fuckers have been at it for years :x I feel a bit sorry for Lazio and Fiorentina though,the way i read it they saw how Moggi had conducted business and decided if they couldn't beat Juve they'd have to join em.