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Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: DMR on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 11:09:43 What do you think then?
To be honest I hope the boy gets a slating cos he deserves it and I hope the press don't bum him for being our alleged golden boy. He has to learn now, he should've done from Spain, Northern Ireland etc but he hasn't. Beckham learned but I reckon Rooneys already had more of a chance. Bring the cunt down a peg or two, press. Title: Re: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: magicroundabout on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 11:16:09 Quote from: "dave_m_russell" What do you think then? To be honest I hope the boy gets a slating cos he deserves it and I hope the press don't bum him for being our alleged golden boy. He has to learn now, he should've done from Spain, Northern Ireland etc but he hasn't. Beckham learned but I reckon Rooneys already had more of a chance. Bring the cunt down a peg or two, press. thing is rooney did nothing wrong dave. Title: Re: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: my-velocity on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 11:18:51 Quote from: "magicroundabout" Quote from: "dave_m_russell" What do you think then? To be honest I hope the boy gets a slating cos he deserves it and I hope the press don't bum him for being our alleged golden boy. He has to learn now, he should've done from Spain, Northern Ireland etc but he hasn't. Beckham learned but I reckon Rooneys already had more of a chance. Bring the cunt down a peg or two, press. thing is rooney did nothing wrong dave. Wish that was true. Title: Re: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: DMR on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 11:20:45 Quote from: "magicroundabout" Quote from: "dave_m_russell" What do you think then? To be honest I hope the boy gets a slating cos he deserves it and I hope the press don't bum him for being our alleged golden boy. He has to learn now, he should've done from Spain, Northern Ireland etc but he hasn't. Beckham learned but I reckon Rooneys already had more of a chance. Bring the cunt down a peg or two, press. thing is rooney did nothing wrong dave. Did you have too much tequila in Mexico? Did you not watch the matches I just said? I know footballs all opinions but you're wrong. Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: magicroundabout on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 11:23:43 are you talking about rooneys stamp or what dave cos your confusing me now
Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: DMR on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 11:26:48 Rooneys stamp, and his behaviour previously.
In any of those cases I can't see how you can say he's done nothing wrong. Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: magicroundabout on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 11:31:53 i said i don't think he stamped on Ronaldo.
i can't see his foot raised and then come stamping down on CR. ala Cantona on Moncure(sp) that was a stamp. Roonies wasn't. and i can't see how a bit of passion is wrong. he's the only fucker with it yet people like you slate him for it. Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: my-velocity on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 11:33:24 Quote from: "magicroundabout" i said i don't think he stamped on Ronaldo. i can't see his foot raised and then come stamping down on CR. ala Cantona on Moncure(sp) that was a stamp. Roonies wasn't. and i can't see how a bit of passion is wrong. he's the only fucker with it yet people like you slate him for it. The majority of the players had no passion, the only one i saw who showed his dedication to this country was Hargreaves. He ran his socks of that match and i think was our MOTM. Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: magicroundabout on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 11:34:33 yeah i agree that Hargreaves played really well yesterday.
Rooney hardley did a thing yesterday but how can you being the lone striker. Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: my-velocity on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 11:38:56 Quote from: "magicroundabout" yeah i agree that Hargreaves played really well yesterday. Rooney hardley did a thing yesterday but how can you being the lone striker. he should have put Rooney upfront with Crouch, would have been a good combination. Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: DMR on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 11:43:59 Quote from: "magicroundabout" i said i don't think he stamped on Ronaldo. i can't see his foot raised and then come stamping down on CR. ala Cantona on Moncure(sp) that was a stamp. Roonies wasn't. and i can't see how a bit of passion is wrong. he's the only fucker with it yet people like you slate him for it. Bollocks. Terry, Becks, Hargreaves, Gerrard, Rio, Robinson- they were crying their eyes out cos they didn't give a fuck? Carragher lay face down for an hour because he has no passion? I don't think he stamped on Ronaldo either, never said he did. I would say he stamped pretty fucking hard on Carvalho. Yes Rooneys got passion but he's like Gurney, most people confuse passion with being a mindless no brained thug. Title: Re: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: pauld on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 11:58:15 Quote from: "dave_m_russell" I know footballs all opinions but you're wrong. :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: That's brilliant! I'm going to have that made into a T-shirt. Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: DV on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 13:04:05 that was never a stamp...he trod on him.....
Cantona on Moncur....now that was a stamp good and proper.... Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 13:59:53 regardless of semantics, rooney did that with intended malice in my opinion. he knew what he was doing.
as dave said, the boy needs to learn and i think he will. hopefully it won't change him entirely because that aggression is an important aspect to his game. Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 14:09:19 Have to say at first I thought it was an accident, but the replay makes it look like he did it on purpose.
If that's the case he deserves all he gets, just like Beckham did against the argies in '98. Ronaldo is still a cunt though. Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: yeo on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 14:51:28 I completely missed the stamp,I thought he was sent off for that gay push.Beer confusion no doubt.
Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: danny121 on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 14:57:45 For fuck sake the guys 20!! And he was sent off for the push if you watch the reffs actions so dont know where the fuck this gay stamping bullshit has come from. I may be wrong but i only recall him being sent off twice in his career, not too bad of a record considering hes played for four seasons.
Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 15:55:32 So you are playing in a tournament that has had the most red and yellow cards issued ever. You are also playing against a team that tends to dive and winge at everything. You have a South American referee, which culturally are more hot headed than Europeans. You are playing in one of the most important games of your life. You are one of the most important players in your team and have the ability to score and help your team advance. without you, your team's chance of going through is greatly diminished. Do you:
a. Concentrate on scoring a goal or two so that you can rub your opponents noses in it at the end of the game and take all the accolades for being the youngest and best striker in the tournament ? Or: b. Take a chance and commit two sending off offences within 10 seconds within 5 yards of the referee, for no gain whatsoever other than making yourself look a thug and risking being sent off, which will make it incredibly difficult for your team mates to progress in the tournament, end some of your 'friends' international careers, result in both yourself and your 'gaffer' being crucified in the media and jeopardise your future international career ? NMH Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 15:57:26 Quote from: "danny121" For fuck sake the guys 20!! And he was sent off for the push if you watch the reffs actions so dont know where the fuck this gay stamping bullshit has come from. I may be wrong but i only recall him being sent off twice in his career, not too bad of a record considering hes played for four seasons. So at what age do you learn that a stamp and a push are fouls in football ? I thought it was when you were at Primary school rather than after you achieved international stardom ? NMH Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: danny121 on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 15:58:14 Yes all of this went through his head during this 10seconds, he carefully thought about each option, and after weighing them both up he decided to select the second option
Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: danny121 on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 16:08:46 Yes i was defending Rooney because I thought he wasnt aware that a push was a foul :shock: Anyway wake up it was hardly a full on shove to the face, yea he was wrong to do it but you can hardly classify him as some hot headed liabilty. With out doubt the guys got a temper but i think through out his career hes generally used this to his advantage making him one of the most competitive players around. Like I said hes only even been sent off twice. If he like say for example like Alan Smith in his younger days, was picking red cards up a few times a season for lashing out you could point to his temper as a liabilty or even if hed ACTUALLY ala cantona on Moncur stamped on the guy then threw Ronaldo away then you call his temper a liability. Although i do agree Rooney was in the wrong and can see why he was sent off i stil beleive the whole thing was a bit harsh on him
Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: magicroundabout on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 16:27:16 Quote from: "dave_m_russell" Quote from: "magicroundabout" i said i don't think he stamped on Ronaldo. i can't see his foot raised and then come stamping down on CR. ala Cantona on Moncure(sp) that was a stamp. Roonies wasn't. and i can't see how a bit of passion is wrong. he's the only fucker with it yet people like you slate him for it. Bollocks. Terry, Becks, Hargreaves, Gerrard, Rio, Robinson- they were crying their eyes out cos they didn't give a fuck? Carragher lay face down for an hour because he has no passion? I don't think he stamped on Ronaldo either, never said he did. I would say he stamped pretty fucking hard on Carvalho. Yes Rooneys got passion but he's like Gurney, most people confuse passion with being a mindless no brained thug. don't be fucking pedantic Dave you know what i meant. :wanker: also your talking bollox. He wasn't even sent off for the so called jump/stamp (as you put it) so even the ref obviously thought it wasn't a stamp and more accidental. So therefore your the one who is wrong. and even the shove wasn't really a shove. he never fell over or anything so he couldn't have done it that hard. Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: danny121 on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 16:34:39 Excactly, this Rooneys a thug liabily is really fuckin moronic. And like you said the 'stamp' shouldnt really be an issue considering the ref wasnt even going to book him for it.
Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: red macca on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 16:34:47 Quote from: "Nomoreheroes" So you are playing in a tournament that has had the most red and yellow cards issued ever. You are also playing against a team that tends to dive and winge at everything. You have a South American referee, which culturally are more hot headed than Europeans. You are playing in one of the most important games of your life. You are one of the most important players in your team and have the ability to score and help your team advance. without you, your team's chance of going through is greatly diminished. Do you: or look at it another way and put yourself in his shoes he WAS sent off for the push he wasnt even gonna get booked for the so called stamp.a. Concentrate on scoring a goal or two so that you can rub your opponents noses in it at the end of the game and take all the accolades for being the youngest and best striker in the tournament ? Or: b. Take a chance and commit two sending off offences within 10 seconds within 5 yards of the referee, for no gain whatsoever other than making yourself look a thug and risking being sent off, which will make it incredibly difficult for your team mates to progress in the tournament, end some of your 'friends' international careers, result in both yourself and your 'gaffer' being crucified in the media and jeopardise your future international career ? NMH the rules will actually show that ronaldo should of actually got booked aswell as it is a bookable offence to ask the ref to book another player. Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: danny121 on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 16:38:03 It also annoys me how Figo only gets booked for headbutting a dutch player but Rooney gets sent off for a slight shove. The Inconsistency’s in the punishments given out is a joke. Not that the figo incident has anything to do with Rooneys im just having a moan
Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: DMR on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 16:43:38 Quote from: "danny121" Excactly, this Rooneys a thug liabily is really fuckin moronic. And like you said the 'stamp' shouldnt really be an issue considering the ref wasnt even going to book him for it. Watch the footage- the ref clearly indicates he's red carding him for the stamp/tread call it whatever you want. Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: danny121 on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 16:49:32 He isnt at all, The referees whole actions change the second Rooney pushes Ronaldo. Hes stood there not even makin eye contact with rooney, seems to be waiting for the Portugese player get back to his feet. He does nothing to even suggest he was going to book Rooney. Then the push happens and he instantly begins to push him to one side and started reaching into his pocket. That what i saw anyway, what does eveyone else think? Granted you cant read the referees mind so he may well have sent Rooney of for stamp but you cant conclude that from what the footage suggests.
Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: kaufman on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 17:28:10 Quote from: "danny121" He isnt at all, The referees whole actions change the second Rooney pushes Ronaldo. Hes stood there not even makin eye contact with rooney, seems to be waiting for the Portugese player get back to his feet. He does nothing to even suggest he was going to book Rooney. Then the push happens and he instantly begins to push him to one side and started reaching into his pocket. That what i saw anyway, what does eveyone else think? Granted you cant read the referees mind so he may well have sent Rooney of for stamp but you cant conclude that from what the footage suggests. its on the bbc site that he was sent off for the stamp not the push. to be honest i thought the ref did not see the stamp but sven asked the ref after and he gave it for the stamp and told sven where rooney stood on the defender. the only thing i can think is that he was going to give rooney a yellow but him pushing ronaldo turned it into a red. either way rooney should have stayed calm but it was not meant to be Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: Dazzza on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 17:38:46 Quote the only thing i can think is that he was going to give rooney a yellow but him pushing ronaldo turned it into a red. either way rooney should have stayed calm but it was not meant to be That's what I thought. The stamp was a bit open to interpretation and until you watch the replay it looked like he could have been attempting to get his balance after being dragged back by the two Portuguese players. In fact when I saw it I thought Rooney had been fouled. It’s only in the replay where you can see that there’s some force behind his boot.. Players surrounding the ref, the player writhing around like he’s just been castrated and then the push probably made up the ref’s mind where before he may have got away with a yellow. Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: STFC_Chris on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 17:39:18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KanBaiT5jX0&search=rooney%20send%20off
The video footage certainly suggests that Rooney was sent off for the push, as Danny says the ref wasnt taking any action until Rooney pushed Ronaldo. Whats to stop the ref telling the press that he sent him off for the "stamp" once he's seen the footage, when he had infact sent him off for the shove. Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: genf_stfc on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 17:58:27 its irrelevant - if anyone is to blame in us going out its eriksson for taking 4 strikers, two of which were fit, and one of which has never been capped.
rooney's effort in getting fit shows his dedication alone - you can't blame him alone for getting sent off for us losing. have a go at ronaldo instead for being a winging homo shitty nob, would like to see the first man u training session of the year when those two get together... Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: magicroundabout on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 18:02:18 that is no way a stamp. not in a million years.
he was trying to get his ballance. there was no mallace at all. Look at that cunt Ronaldo go straight to the ref and demand he be booked etc. what a cunt Also if you watch the ref all he is doing is pointing for a free kick and wasn't even going to book him. Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: pauld on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 19:09:09 Quote from: "genf_stfc" its irrelevant - if anyone is to blame in us going out its eriksson for taking 4 strikers, two of which were fit, and one of which has never been capped. Never has a nail been so firmly hit on the head. Absolutely spot on. And for playing Rooney on his own up front. Who's up for a march round to David Dein's house to ask he personally repays the £25m quid the FA wasted on this chancer? Think how many clubs that could save in the next few years. Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: genf_stfc on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 19:15:17 Quote from: "pauld" Who's up for a march round to David Dein's house to ask he personally repays the £25m quid the FA wasted on this chancer? Think how many clubs that could save in the next few years. half a million each to all the clubs in leagues one and two would do !! fantastic idea. Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: Amir on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 20:09:31 I didn't think Rooney had meant to do it, but the first time I saw it was at about 3am and I was a little wasted. Either way Rooney does need to learn to harness his anger/aggression. If you can learn to it is a formidible weapon.
Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 20:12:48 Quote from: "danny121" Yes all of this went through his head during this 10seconds, he carefully thought about each option, and after weighing them both up he decided to select the second option Yes, just as I assume options like that go through your head about commiting violence on your work colleagues when they upset you. NMH Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: Scot Munroe on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 20:19:07 i actually found the footage on youtube if you want to see the rooney incident again. this footage is on itv highlights last nite.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjCneugi52s&mode=related&search= Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 20:24:40 Quote from: "danny121" He isnt at all, The referees whole actions change the second Rooney pushes Ronaldo. Hes stood there not even makin eye contact with rooney, seems to be waiting for the Portugese player get back to his feet. He does nothing to even suggest he was going to book Rooney. Then the push happens and he instantly begins to push him to one side and started reaching into his pocket. That what i saw anyway, what does eveyone else think? Granted you cant read the referees mind so he may well have sent Rooney of for stamp but you cant conclude that from what the footage suggests. Thats what I saw too. However, he was stupid stamping on the bloke as he could have got sent off for that. Then, having gotten away with that, he was even more stupid for laying hands on Ronaldo, which was the second potential sending off offence (I believe thet the ref thought he 'struck' Ronaldo). That one he didn't get away with. I can forgive one petulant act. But for christ sake why the hell didn't he walk away and leave Ronaldo to get a booking !! The bit we haven't mentioned is the part Ronaldo played. I'm so p*ssed off with his actions. I hate cheating in any sport whether it is for or against you. I don't like the fact that Cole could get the Oscar sometimes. However, if Rooney had done what he did, Ronaldo wouldn't have done what he did. The game probably wouldn't have gone to penalties as I believe that England would have come out as 1-0 victors. But, we'll never know now will we. NMH Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: Dazzza on Monday, July 3, 2006, 17:47:27 Not a stamp?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2006/5141510.stm Quote Rooney 'gobsmacked' by red card Rooney was stunned when he was shown him the red card Striker Wayne Rooney said he was "gobsmacked" to be sent off for a stamp on Ricardo Carvalho in England's World Cup quarter-final against Portugal. And he insisted he was not angry with Cristiano Ronaldo, who appeared to encourage the referee to send him off. "I want to say absolutely categorically that I did not intentionally put my foot down on Carvalho," said Rooney. The 20-year-old added: "I bear no ill feeling to Cristiano but am disappointed he chose to get involved." England ended up losing 3-1 on penalties to Portugal having drawn 0-0 after extra-time - with Rooney's Manchester United team-mate Ronaldo slotting in the winning spot-kick. Sven-Goran Eriksson's men played the final hour of the match with 10 men after Rooney's sending-off, but in a statement released on Monday, the striker said: "When the referee produced the red card I was amazed - gobsmacked." He added: "Obviously I'm bitterly disappointed to have been sent off in a World Cup finals match for England. Truly if there was any justice, England would now be preparing for a World Cup semi-final Wayne Rooney "I remember the incident clearly and have seen it several times since on TV," he said. "I am of the same opinion now as I was at the time that what happened didn't warrant a red card. If anything, I feel we should have had a free-kick for the fouls committed on me during the same incident. "If you ask any player - and indeed almost any fan - they will tell you that I am straight and honest in the way I play. "From what I've seen in the World Cup, most players would have gone to ground at the slightest contact but my only thought then was to keep possession for England." Rooney hailed his England team-mates who fought valiantly to force extra-time and penalties despite being a man down. "I thought the England lads were awesome after I went off and the effort they put in was amazing," he said. "Truly if there was any justice England would now be preparing for a World Cup semi-final. Sadly, however, that is not to be in 2006." Earlier on Monday, Ronaldo insisted there was no ill-feeling between him and Rooney. "At the end we texted each other and between us everything's been cleared," he said. He added: "The things that have been said regarding me and my team-mate and friend Rooney are incredible. I'm not a referee and I don't have the power to send a player off Cristiano Ronaldo "He wished me the best of luck in the World Cup. He told me we had a great team and that if we continued to play like this, we would go far. "He wasn't angry with me and, moreover, he told me to completely ignore what the English press has said, that all they wanted was to create confusion, but we are already used to that." Ronaldo insisted he was not to blame for Rooney's dismissal, despite appearing to wink at the Portuguese bench once the red card had been shown. "I am not a referee and I don't have the power to send off a player," said Ronaldo. "I had nothing to do with the fact that the referee showed the red card." Not that it matters much but it's hard to call. He's definately looking where his boot is going but by the same token if he's to remain on his feet there's not really anywhere else it can go. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQxDXlhUl7Q&search=rooney%20stamp Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: TheKingCY on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 07:12:56 Quote from: "pauld" Who's up for a march round to David Dein's house to ask he personally repays the £25m quid the FA wasted on this chancer? Think how many clubs that could save in the next few years. If someone offered you £25m quid to do the England Job for 5 years you wouldn't take it then? :twak: Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: genf_stfc on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 08:46:05 of course I would - thing is, i'd also do it just for the chance to sit on the sidelines during the match, and reckon i'd do as good a job as the swede - somewhere in between those two extremes are probably several decent managers .
Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: TheKingCY on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 12:16:05 Granted. I would do it for fuck all. The team basically picks itself, it just needs someone to motivate them. Hence why Martin O'Neill was the best man for the job. But I ain't bringing all that up again....
Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 12:31:26 Quote from: "dazzza" Not a stamp? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2006/5141510.stm Quote Rooney 'gobsmacked' by red card Rooney was stunned when he was shown him the red card Striker Wayne Rooney said he was "gobsmacked" to be sent off for a stamp on Ricardo Carvalho in England's World Cup quarter-final against Portugal. And he insisted he was not angry with Cristiano Ronaldo, who appeared to encourage the referee to send him off. "I want to say absolutely categorically that I did not intentionally put my foot down on Carvalho," said Rooney. The 20-year-old added: "I bear no ill feeling to Cristiano but am disappointed he chose to get involved." England ended up losing 3-1 on penalties to Portugal having drawn 0-0 after extra-time - with Rooney's Manchester United team-mate Ronaldo slotting in the winning spot-kick. Sven-Goran Eriksson's men played the final hour of the match with 10 men after Rooney's sending-off, but in a statement released on Monday, the striker said: "When the referee produced the red card I was amazed - gobsmacked." He added: "Obviously I'm bitterly disappointed to have been sent off in a World Cup finals match for England. Truly if there was any justice, England would now be preparing for a World Cup semi-final Wayne Rooney "I remember the incident clearly and have seen it several times since on TV," he said. "I am of the same opinion now as I was at the time that what happened didn't warrant a red card. If anything, I feel we should have had a free-kick for the fouls committed on me during the same incident. "If you ask any player - and indeed almost any fan - they will tell you that I am straight and honest in the way I play. "From what I've seen in the World Cup, most players would have gone to ground at the slightest contact but my only thought then was to keep possession for England." Rooney hailed his England team-mates who fought valiantly to force extra-time and penalties despite being a man down. "I thought the England lads were awesome after I went off and the effort they put in was amazing," he said. "Truly if there was any justice England would now be preparing for a World Cup semi-final. Sadly, however, that is not to be in 2006." Earlier on Monday, Ronaldo insisted there was no ill-feeling between him and Rooney. "At the end we texted each other and between us everything's been cleared," he said. He added: "The things that have been said regarding me and my team-mate and friend Rooney are incredible. I'm not a referee and I don't have the power to send a player off Cristiano Ronaldo "He wished me the best of luck in the World Cup. He told me we had a great team and that if we continued to play like this, we would go far. "He wasn't angry with me and, moreover, he told me to completely ignore what the English press has said, that all they wanted was to create confusion, but we are already used to that." Ronaldo insisted he was not to blame for Rooney's dismissal, despite appearing to wink at the Portuguese bench once the red card had been shown. "I am not a referee and I don't have the power to send off a player," said Ronaldo. "I had nothing to do with the fact that the referee showed the red card." Not that it matters much but it's hard to call. He's definately looking where his boot is going but by the same token if he's to remain on his feet there's not really anywhere else it can go. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQxDXlhUl7Q&search=rooney%20stamp Still looks to me that it is definitely not intentional, where else is his foot supposed to go. He was trying to regain his footing and win the ball. Title: Rooney/Beckham situation Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 13:39:38 i won the world cup with nicky hunt at right-back, it's not that difficult.
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