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Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 15:55:07
It's gonna be...

Germany vs Argentina

England vs Portugal

Italy vs France

Brazil vs Spain

What does everyone else think? I reckon thats a realistic outcome.


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 16:07:46
agree exept for portugal,i think holland will beat them


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 16:14:30
France might have to play Spain in the next round if they make it. The way they're playing can't see them winning that.


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 16:15:31
Germany v Argentina

England v Holland

Italy v Spain

Ghana v Switzerland

That's if I'm reading my wall chart correctly. I think that Ghana can do Brazil if they can somehow just forget they are playing Brazil and remember that Ronaldo is a fat old man and Roberto Carlos is past it.


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 16:25:50
Quote from: "OOH!  SHAUN TAYLOR"
Germany v Argentina

England v Holland

Italy v Spain

Ghana v Switzerland

That's if I'm reading my wall chart correctly. I think that Ghana can do Brazil if they can somehow just forget they are playing Brazil and remember that Ronaldo is a fat old man and Roberto Carlos is past it.


Italy won't meet Spain.

Italy play Australia or Croatia in the 2nd round.

If they win that, they play the winner of group G vs runner up of group H.

Probally France vs Ukraine.


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 16:35:30
Well even if France win against Togo they may still go out anyway. The only way they can win the group is if Switzerland and South Korea draw and they win by a couple of goals.


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 16:42:48
France will have 5 points if they beat Togo.

Switzerland and South Korea currently both have 4 points.

So...

Can someone clever work out the possible outcomes?  :soapy tit wank:


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 16:50:24
Well if Switzerland and South Korea draw and France win by one goal, draw or lose France are out but if France win by two goals or more thy win the group on goal difference. If either Switzerland or South Korea win then France need to win to get second. Think that's about it.


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: DV on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 16:51:40
Quote from: "Ralphy"
France will have 5 points if they beat Togo.

Switzerland and South Korea currently both have 4 points.

So...

Can someone clever work out the possible outcomes?  :soapy tit wank:


Yes...

If France win and the other two draw, all 3 teams will have 5 points and all would have drawn against each other, so it will go down to goal difference, which really will mean whoever beats togo by the most goals finish top....etc.

South Korea beat Togo by 1 and the Swiss by two...so if France win 3-0 and the swiss draw with Korea....then Korea go home without losing a game  :shock:


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 16:54:28
Cheers!

I reckon South Korea will win the group and France will come 2nd.

So that means it will be South Korea vs Ukraine and France vs Spain in the 2nd round.


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Dazzza on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 17:56:18
Think we'll have the Dutch as well followed by the Brazilians.


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 17:58:19
Am I the only one who doesn't think we're good enough to get past Ecuador?


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 17:59:01
I don't really care. If we want to do well we'll have to beat some of the better teams eventually.


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Dazzza on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 18:05:51
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Am I the only one who doesn't think we're good enough to get past Ecuador?


Did you see them against Poland?

Very impressive they play at a quick tempo and gave them no time on the ball at all.  

Rested half of the squad against the Germans so there was no real indicator from that game of how good they really are.

I think we'll win in the same spirit we beat Cameroon in 90.  Outplayed for most of the game and nick it towards the end, should be a lively match though that's for sure.


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 18:12:38
Quote from: "dazzza"
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Am I the only one who doesn't think we're good enough to get past Ecuador?


Did you see them against Poland?

Very impressive they play at a quick tempo and gave them no time on the ball at all.  

Rested half of the squad against the Germans so there was no real indicator from that game of how good they really are.

I think we'll win in the same spirit we beat Cameroon in 90.  Outplayed for most of the game and nick it towards the end, should be a lively match though that's for sure.


  Yep saw that one....looked hardworking, fit and well organised...especially at the back, certainly a more impressive and sustained 90 mins, than anything we've managed, lets hope that's as good as it gets for them.


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: McLovin on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 18:18:54
I'm fully prepared to see us out of the tournament on Sunday. Not saying we will be, but i'm not ruling it out...


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: DMR on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 18:56:26
I reckon we're fucked.


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 19:10:56
im confident we can reach the semis now :D but Brazil  :|


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: DV on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 19:24:22
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Am I the only one who doesn't think we're good enough to get past Ecuador?


No you are not reg....


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 19:56:05
Quote from: "dave_m_russell"
I reckon we're fucked.


correct!


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 20:05:40
The lack of players up front looks grim i admit but why are the English so pesimistic?


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: DV on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 20:15:17
Quote from: "Ralphy"
The lack of players up front looks grim i admit but why are the English so pesimistic?


because we are shit and never deliver, and despite the media hype our team isnt that good. We have a cracking squad...but a pretty shit team....if that makes sense.

We havent looked like winning a tournament since '96 and thats because Alan Shearer was fucking brilliant!


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: DMR on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 20:17:37
no we're not shit dv, you're simply wrong there. rooney, gerrard, lampard, terry and probably rio and ashley cole would walk into any other team.

we're unlucky that our best squad coincides with the best squad the argies, brazil, italy, holland, mexico and spain have had for years


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: DV on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 20:22:44
Quote from: "dave_m_russell"
no we're not shit dv, you're simply wrong there. rooney, gerrard, lampard, terry and probably rio and ashley cole would walk into any other team.

we're unlucky that our best squad coincides with the best squad the argies, brazil, italy, holland, mexico and spain have had for years


as a team we are shit....individuals are good....im not denying that...but the sign of a class manager is turning a team of 11 brilliant players into a team.

Mourinho has done this at Chelsea and they play well and succeed, to me England still look like a team of individuals...rather that a fully functioning team


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: larwood on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 20:38:42
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but the sign of a class manager is turning a team of 11 brilliant players into a team.

Have to agree,and Sven doesn't seem to have a clue how to do this.Sadly i can't see it getting any better when Mcclaren takes over :(


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 20:48:22
We fucked up when we announced that the Portugal geezer was gonna be our new manager before the world cup.

We should have announced it after the world cup then it would have gone through.


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: red macca on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 20:50:38
Quote from: "Ralphy"
We fucked up when we announced that the Portugal geezer was gonna be our new manager before the world cup.

We should have announced it after the world cup then it would have gone through.
im confused by your post :roll:


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 20:52:47
That Brazilian fella who is coach of Portugal, he was lined up to be the new England boss remember? But the Portugese were not happy and he decided against it.


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: larwood on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 21:03:52
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That Brazilian fella who is coach of Portugal, he was lined up to be the new England boss remember? But the Portugese were not happy and he decided against it.

I thought the reason Big Phil turned the job down was because he woke up to find the paparazzi on his doorstep,can't blame the bloke really.


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 21:08:19
Fucking big shame.

Steve Mclaren  :|


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 21:14:32
Quote from: "larwood"
Quote

That Brazilian fella who is coach of Portugal, he was lined up to be the new England boss remember? But the Portugese were not happy and he decided against it.

I thought the reason Big Phil turned the job down was because he woke up to find the paparazzi on his doorstep,can't blame the bloke really.


 According to his Brazilian buddy on 5Live tonight, Scolari wanted the England job, but not until after the WC out of respect to Portugal.

 The FA wouldn't countenance this...for some reason the appointment had to be made prior to the WC, so we end up with McClaren.


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 21:16:50
Just as i thought Reg.

Big shame.


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: larwood on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 21:23:07
:-))(
Good it means i can blame the fucking useless FA ,result :x
Gus Hiddink would have been good too,but they fucked that up as well!


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: red macca on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 21:25:19
Quote from: "larwood"
Quote

That Brazilian fella who is coach of Portugal, he was lined up to be the new England boss remember? But the Portugese were not happy and he decided against it.

I thought the reason Big Phil turned the job down was because he woke up to find the paparazzi on his doorstep,can't blame the bloke really.
he would get used to the paparazi....i did  8)


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: larwood on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 21:26:48
:soapy tit wank:


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 21:47:48
Quote from: "larwood"
:-))(
Good it means i can blame the fucking useless FA ,result :x
Gus Hiddink would have been good too,but they fucked that up as well!


  I would have prefered Hiddink to Scolari...oh well got to give McClaren a chance....


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 23:48:29
Quote from: "dazzza"
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Am I the only one who doesn't think we're good enough to get past Ecuador?


Did you see them against Poland?

Very impressive they play at a quick tempo and gave them no time on the ball at all.  

Rested half of the squad against the Germans so there was no real indicator from that game of how good they really are.

I think we'll win in the same spirit we beat Cameroon in 90.  Outplayed for most of the game and nick it towards the end, should be a lively match though that's for sure.


Despite whatever they may have done against Poland (it wasn't exactly a cracking game) and the abject Costa Rica side, I am not prepared (yet) to allow myself to be scared by a team consisting of a useless fullback from Villa, a failed Southampton striker and some chap in a mask who couldn't cut the mustard at Palace.

They will no doubt put up a fight (they should at least be fit training at altitude so often) but I just can't see them doing anything against any team better than average.  Poland changed their style for the finals from our group (sticking the poor lad from Celtic upfront on his own when he is a supporting striker) and Costa Rica forgot to turn up, and as you say the Germany game was a nothing one.

Mind you, I'm still crazy enough to think we could beat any side in the tournament, which is slightly different from syaing we'll win it (which I don't expect).


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, June 23, 2006, 08:37:16
We will beat Ecuador 3-0 FACT!

Then all of a sudden everyone (well the media anyway) will be convinced we will win the World Cup.


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, June 23, 2006, 18:21:05
Quote from: "OOH!  SHAUN TAYLOR"
We will beat Ecuador 3-0 FACT!

Then all of a sudden everyone (well the media anyway) will be convinced we will win the World Cup.


As fucking always. In all honesty we should beat them. I won't be surprised if we don't and won't be gettign carried away of we do/.


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: STFC Village on Friday, June 23, 2006, 21:37:34
Spain Vs France on Tuesday

*Rubs hands in glee*


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Ralphy on Saturday, June 24, 2006, 15:52:38
I hope Spain stuff the frogs, hate them.

I also hope Australia thrash the fucking eye-ties.


Title: Possible Quarter Finals
Post by: Stef Troll on Saturday, June 24, 2006, 17:23:06
I've got a sneaky fealing that Ecuador will do the business tomorrow.  Expected to be around 35 degrees tomorrow at 4pm.  England need a good start, or the heat and humidity will benefit Ecuador.  Im going for a 1-1 draw with Ecuador winning in extra time or penalties