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Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Scot Munroe on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 10:47:59 reports in italy say the clubs involved in the scandal Juventus, Ac Milan, Lazio and Fiorentina will be relegated. That will mean if it does happen that inter Milan will win the league and the mighty roma will come into 2nd place and chievo will go into third place. this is called the Calciopoli Latest
Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: larwood on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 10:53:25 :jaw2: I don't believe it,the Italian FA are going to treat every club the same,good job too.Still it'll be jaw dropping if it does happen :shock: :shock:
Wish our FA would do the same thing :x Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: STFCBird on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 10:54:51 Quote from: "larwood" :jaw2: I don't believe it,the Italian FA are going to treat every club the same,good job too.Still it'll be jaw dropping if it does happen :shock: :shock: Wish our FA would do the same thing :x Yeah I still haven't forgotten the whole we get relegated and spurs get away scot free thing. cunts Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Scot Munroe on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 10:58:39 in the 80s milan and lazio got relegated for what juve done now. over the last couple this sought have thing has happend in italy with fiorentina, napoli, torino.
Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: larwood on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 11:00:38 Exactly, Juve always seem to get away with it.Thats why i won't believe it till it actually happens,and all of those teams too,amazing.
It'll move Samp up the league too :D to about 10th place :-))( Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Stef Troll on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 11:07:28 Fuck me, im guessing all the players who play for Juve, AC, Lazio and Fiorentina have some kind of clauses in their contract which enables the players to leave for free if the team get relegated.
Would be funny as fuck if AC got relegated - Chelsea spend £30 million on Schevchenko when they may have been able to sign him on a freebie :D :D Italian footy would probably suffer as a result, and i guess quiet a few of the top name players will move to the premship or la liga Title: Re: Scandal In Italy Post by: Spud on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 11:08:20 Quote from: "SwindonUltra" reports in italy say the clubs involved in the scandal Juventus, Ac Milan, Lazio and Fiorentina will be relegated. That will mean if it does happen that inter Milan will win the league and the mighty roma will come into 2nd place and chievo will go into third place. this is called the Calciopoli Latest Roma are about as mighty as Oxford. Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Scot Munroe on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 11:44:10 Quote from: "larwood" Exactly, Juve always seem to get away with it.Thats why i won't believe it till it actually happens,and all of those teams too,amazing. It'll move Samp up the league too :D to about 10th place :-))( yeah they would finish 10. Inter Roma Chievo Palermo Livorno Parma Empoli Ascoli Udinese Sampdoria Reggina Cagliari Siena Messina (r) Lecce (r) Treviso (r) Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: larwood on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 12:08:51 Quote yeah they would finish 10. :soapy tit wank: I'm good,that was a guess.I know our finish to the season was awful. Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Forza_Swindon on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 12:26:21 Quote from: "StefPol" Fuck me, im guessing all the players who play for Juve, AC, Lazio and Fiorentina have some kind of clauses in their contract which enables the players to leave for free if the team get relegated. Would be funny as fuck if AC got relegated - Chelsea spend £30 million on Schevchenko when they may have been able to sign him on a freebie :D :D Italian footy would probably suffer as a result, and i guess quiet a few of the top name players will move to the premship or la liga Yeah, they do...at Juve they do anyway. Have heard a few bits and pieces about who is lined up to take over at Juve if they do get demoted, but basically all the players will be on their way out! Can't remember who was being backed to take the manager's position though... :roll: Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Boeta on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 12:54:33 deschamps was the name i read for the juve job
Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: crows on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 13:08:26 The Italians are only one of two teams in the world cup at the moment who's whole team play in their domestic division, this will change to about 10 if Juve, Milan, Lazio and Fiorentina lose all their players!
Maybe some of them are good mates with Wise or Poyet :mrgreen: Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: timmyg on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 13:18:50 When this whole thing happened I didn't think that the Italian FA would have the balls to do anything. It was almost too big for them. It looks like Juve will be made the scapegoat and take the big fall with most of their players moving on. I reckon Del Piero will stay though.
When it first broke they were looking into all but 3 Serie A clubs :shock: The mighty Ancona were being investigated too, as they suspiciously lost almost all of their Serie A games in 03/04. Turns out they were just shit though. It'll be interesting to see what happens tonight though. And also to see how the Juve players get on this afternoon: Nedved, Buffon et al. Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: larwood on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 13:54:42 Quote When this whole thing happened I didn't think that the Italian FA would have the balls to do anything Same as,good on the Italian FA i say,tbh anything less than punishing ALL the teams involved would have been shocking.Its been suspected for ages that Juve have bribed the refs,wasn't there a punch up in the Italian parliment over it once? Quote The mighty Ancona were being investigated too, as they suspiciously lost almost all of their Serie A games in 03/04. Turns out they were just shit though. :soapy tit wank: Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 14:55:27 blimey! if these 4 teams get relegated, what happens to the teams at the bottom of serie a and the top of serie b?
fiorentina have only just got back to serie a as well, harsh :D Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: timmyg on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 15:55:52 Fiorentina are the dogiest of the lot I reckon. They haven't been caught doing anything, but the president there is in cahoots with Don Moggi.
They were supposed to have announced something now, but there's nothing as yet. Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: larwood on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 16:20:17 Quote They were supposed to have announced something now, but there's nothing as yet Yes after the Stock exchange closed :-))( Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Scot Munroe on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 16:21:52 the stock exchange closed 50 mins ago.
Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: red macca on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 16:23:06 Quote from: "larwood" Quote They were supposed to have announced something now, but there's nothing as yet Yes after the Stock exchange closed :-))( Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Scot Munroe on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 16:27:58 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4993482.stm
here is the background of what is going on Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: larwood on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 16:31:58 Quote your aviator looks strangly like princess diana..15 yrs ago obviously ..not now Its Josephine Baker,who was a black woman,before she died anyway. I still think Juve and Milan will get away with it,cynic that i am. Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Scot Munroe on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 17:42:53 the 4 clubs have been charged here the story
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun22p.html 3 more clubs were investigated which were parma, udinese and sampdoria. Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: larwood on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 18:20:55 Cheers Ultra,an interesting read.
How i would love to see Juve in Serie B :soapy tit wank: Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 18:21:40 My mate's a Milan fan :soapy tit wank:
Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: my-velocity on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 19:04:02 Serves them right really for what they did, if they did it of course still not proven yet.
Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Scot Munroe on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 19:48:21 i am a roma fan so it suits me. i been saying this about juventus for about a year now. You could see it was going to happen.
Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Scot Munroe on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 21:23:26 from the bravo italia messageboard on which i am on
From the press agencies in Italy tonight. The anticipated penalties for the four clubs involved are; Juventus: To Serie B and start 2006/7 with -9 points. Milan: Stay in Serie A and start 2006/7 with -15 points. Fiorentina: To Serie B. Lazio: To Serie B All four banned from european competition. Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: red macca on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 21:26:50 Quote from: "SwindonUltra" from the bravo italia messageboard on which i am on :shock: :shock: fuck me if that happens that will send a strong messageFrom the press agencies in Italy tonight. The anticipated penalties for the four clubs involved are; Juventus: To Serie B and start 2006/7 with -9 points. Milan: Stay in Serie A and start 2006/7 with -15 points. Fiorentina: To Serie B. Lazio: To Serie B All four banned from european competition. Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: larwood on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 21:34:28 I would so love it if it happens,Juve in Serie B :shock: :shock:
Banned from Europe as well.Just looked out the window and seen some pigs flying past,it can't happen really,can it?All of those clubs,i'm sat shaking my head. Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Dazzza on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 23:02:20 Fuck me that's superb even I must say!
Which clubs are in line for a promotion then? Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: STFC Village on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 23:21:32 Top 5 from Serie B going up? If so.....
Atalanta Catania Torino Mantova Modena Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Dazzza on Thursday, June 22, 2006, 23:23:57 Cheers Village, think Torino may already be up via the playoffs.
Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Scot Munroe on Friday, June 23, 2006, 08:02:50 i think torino won the playoffs.
Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: STFC Village on Friday, June 23, 2006, 13:29:52 Quote from: "SwindonUltra" i think torino won the playoffs. I've no doubt that they did, would still mean top 5 to go upTitle: Scandal In Italy Post by: tans on Friday, June 23, 2006, 17:09:23 how come milan would still stay up and everyone else go down? thats a bit off and surely theyre not treated equally?
Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: STFC Village on Friday, June 23, 2006, 17:47:52 Quote from: "tans" how come milan would still stay up and everyone else go down? thats a bit off and surely theyre not treated equally? Depends on the severity of the misdemeanour i imagineTitle: Scandal In Italy Post by: Scot Munroe on Friday, June 23, 2006, 18:02:32 that what it is. Juventus where mainly involved in the scandal
Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: reeves4england on Friday, June 23, 2006, 18:09:25 That would be so funny to see! Plus it would give the English teams a much greater chance of European success next season!
Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, June 23, 2006, 18:13:10 Milan are claiming they were victims of sporting fraud as opposed to creating it.
Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: larwood on Saturday, June 24, 2006, 07:30:16 Quote Juventus where mainly involved in the scandal Juve have been doing dodgy stuff for years,all the strange ref decisions that have gone their way :x .Its going to be superb to see them getting punished,still hasn't happened yet though. Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Scot Munroe on Saturday, June 24, 2006, 08:58:33 July 9th is when we will find out the punishement.
Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: SwindonTartanArmy on Tuesday, June 27, 2006, 14:52:20 Quote from: "larwood" Quote Juventus where mainly involved in the scandal Juve have been doing dodgy stuff for years,all the strange ref decisions that have gone their way :x .Its going to be superb to see them getting punished,still hasn't happened yet though. And dodgy decisions dont go the way of Man Yoo or Chelski do they??? Plus if Premiere league teams were relegated every time they said they didnt want a particular ref we would be promoted to the Prem next season! Italian football still has alot of corruption unforetunately. Not just the 4 teams mentioned, they are all at it. seem to remember teams beend chopped and changed between devisions loads recently. Remember reading the Miracle of Castel di Sangro about their one season in serie B and they were implicated in match fixing in the book. Sad state of affairs all round really. Shame to see such footballing institutions involved in this sort of thing. wouldnt mind if it was Poxford or Celtic :soapy tit wank: Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: SwindonTartanArmy on Thursday, June 29, 2006, 09:31:12 Trial starts today and should be finished by the end of the world cup :shock: Cant wait to go and see Juve vs Rimini next season!!!!
Juve will also be playing at the stadio olimpico in Turin next season while they are redeveloping the Stadio Delle Alpi. Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Scot Munroe on Thursday, June 29, 2006, 10:59:39 the trial already been suspended until next monday.
Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, June 29, 2006, 12:49:05 Quote from: "SwindonUltra" the trial already been suspended until next monday. Can't miss the footy now can we!Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: larwood on Thursday, June 29, 2006, 14:59:12 Quote the trial already been suspended until next monday :-))( Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: quinnismyhero on Thursday, June 29, 2006, 15:02:44 Quote from: "larwood" Quote the trial already been suspended until next monday :-))( Not a great surprise tho Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: SwindonTartanArmy on Thursday, June 29, 2006, 15:55:35 suspended as the teams that would be promoted on the back of this want to present evidence.
WTF has this got to do with them??? surely their input would be a conflict of interests??? Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, June 29, 2006, 15:57:25 suspended so Italy can play their 1/4 final.
If they get through it will be put back again, mark my words :old: Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Scot Munroe on Thursday, June 29, 2006, 16:45:07 here is the story
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun29g.html Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: timmyg on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 11:56:44 Here's an update of what happened yesterday:
Quote http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,2483_1315831, 00.html Stefano Palazzi has asked for Juventus to be relegated to at least Serie C, the third tier of the Italian league structure, and handed a six-point penalty and the three remaining clubs to be moved down one level to Serie B. If his recommendations are passed, Milan would commence next season with a three-point penalty while Lazio and Fiorentina would start the Serie B campaign with a deficit of 15 points. Furthermore, Juve's Serie A titles won in 2005 and 2006 would be taken away from them. Former Juventus general manager Luciano Moggi faces a five-year suspension from any role under the jurisdiction of the Italian Football Federation (FIGC), with the same penalty sanctioned for his Juve colleague Antonio Giraudo, Fiorentina owner Diego Della Valle and Lazio president Claudio Lotito. Similar sentences have been recommended by Palazzi for Milan official Leonardo Meani, former FIGC president Franco Carraro and FIGC official Pierluigi Pairetto, who are all alleged to have abused their roles to give the clubs involved advantages in Serie A matches. Palazzi has asked for referee Massimo de Santis, who was initially destined to be Italy's representative at this summer's World Cup, to be be banned for five years with his colleague Gianluca Paparesta suspended for one year for withholding information. The recommendations are all provisional and can be altered over the course of the trial, with all parties now given the opportunity to deliver their defence. A final judgement will be made by the CAF between July 8-10 with appeals possible until July 20, when the final decisions must be made to allow the FIGC to commence preparations for the 2006/07 championship. UEFA will also be keen on resolving the trial, which could change the line-up of its Champions League and UEFA Cup competitions next season. Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Devon Red on Wednesday, July 5, 2006, 11:10:51 The penalties have got to be harsh, like relegations and not just fines.
Does anyone know if/when anything has happened about the league 2 club(i think) that was being investigated for similar offences? Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: larwood on Wednesday, July 5, 2006, 11:16:47 Quote Does anyone know if/when anything has happened about the league 2 club(i think) that was being investigated for similar offences? Last season Genoa were demoted for doing the same sort of thing i think :?: i know they had won promotion to Serie A,but were relegated down a couple of divisions instead i believe.Personally as a Samp fan i found it highly amusing.Your probably thinking of another team anyway so i've been of no use,where's Ultra when we need him :wink: Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Devon Red on Wednesday, July 5, 2006, 11:21:14 Quote from: "larwood" Quote Does anyone know if/when anything has happened about the league 2 club(i think) that was being investigated for similar offences? Last season Genoa were demoted for doing the same sort of thing i think :?: i know they had won promotion to Serie A,but were relegated down a couple of divisions instead i believe.Personally as a Samp fan i found it highly amusing.Your probably thinking of another team anyway so i've been of no use,where's Ultra when we need him :wink: Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: janaage on Wednesday, July 5, 2006, 12:19:43 There's gonna be one hell of a transfer merry go round when/if these big teams go down. Time for some bargain hunting.
Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Scot Munroe on Sunday, July 9, 2006, 12:13:07 if juve get relegated to serie c. all the players over 28 are free agents. as a roma fan i would love cannavaro and zambrotta and trezeguet. i come back on tuesday off my holiday. whoooooooooo.
Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Scot Munroe on Sunday, July 9, 2006, 12:13:49 Quote from: "larwood" Quote Does anyone know if/when anything has happened about the league 2 club(i think) that was being investigated for similar offences? Last season Genoa were demoted for doing the same sort of thing i think :?: i know they had won promotion to Serie A,but were relegated down a couple of divisions instead i believe.Personally as a Samp fan i found it highly amusing.Your probably thinking of another team anyway so i've been of no use,where's Ultra when we need him :wink: on holiday in mallorca Title: Scandal In Italy Post by: Scot Munroe on Wednesday, July 12, 2006, 13:56:51 the verdict could be on friday afternoon after the stock market closes.
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