Title: england not hungary Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, May 30, 2006, 19:52:26 god this game is shite
Title: england not hungary Post by: DMR on Tuesday, May 30, 2006, 19:53:58 Super Super Frank... oh wait :D
Title: england not hungary Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, May 30, 2006, 19:55:59 England are utter garbage.
Title: england not hungary Post by: Spud on Tuesday, May 30, 2006, 20:20:17 2-1 then.
Title: england not hungary Post by: Sussex on Tuesday, May 30, 2006, 20:24:31 I keep missing the goals by flicking between the game, Celeb X-factor and Big Brother :roll:
Thank fook Sky+ gets installed the day before the WC starts! Title: england not hungary Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, May 30, 2006, 21:01:59 3-1. Great goal and celebration by Crouchy!!
Title: england not hungary Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 30, 2006, 21:13:34 Fair play to Crouch, that was a good goal.
Title: england not hungary Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Tuesday, May 30, 2006, 21:16:43 First half was a bit poor, second half was very good. Think this game shows that we should just start with Crouch and Owen in the group stages, with neither Carragher or Hargreaves really doing much to show they're the solution as holding midfielder.
Crouch's goal was superb. Great run from cole and then perfect touch and for a guy that tall to turn like that is just outstanding and then perfect finish and finishes it off with one of the best celebrations ever. Legend! Was a bit disappointing that Lennon didn't get a chance to play though after being man of the match against Belarus. I'm a bit worried that with Sven never having subbed Beckham Lennon just won't get a chance, Sven's said he thinks he could play as a second striker but he deserves a chance on the wing. Overall good performance and result. Title: england not hungary Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 30, 2006, 21:22:58 Its a balancing act though....you have to play Owen as he's proved he's the class striker.....playing just the one up front then enables the use of Gerrard and Lampard, at what they do best....the Crouchmeister, can then enter the fray as needed.
Title: england not hungary Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Tuesday, May 30, 2006, 21:46:58 True but I didn't think Gerrard or Lampard really played amazingly well anyway. In the group stages we'd be better off playing with Crouch and Owen and then maybe use a holding midfielder later on.
Title: england not hungary Post by: Dazzza on Tuesday, May 30, 2006, 22:05:42 I hate to say it but I'm with Graham Taylor and BWB :shock: :o
I'd rather two up front even if the second man has to be Crouch I've not seen anything to suggest that Owen can fulfil a role up front alone and could see him being easily marked out of the game against better opposition. At least with that 2nd body up front there’s someone to play it off and hopefully create a bit of space. Brazil have a bit of a similar dilemma with their midfield being loaded with big guns going forward but not much left to cover the defence. I’m not convinced the holding midfielder plan is going to bear fruit and we’d be far better working out ensuring defensive responsibilities are shared throughout. Plus if the lanky goon carries on putting those away true to my word I will be eating my trilby in a few weeks. Title: england not hungary Post by: red macca on Tuesday, May 30, 2006, 22:36:57 obviously beckhams crossing was superb tonight.but anyone else notice second half that becks basically played centre mid (coz hargreaves is shit).heres my suggestion becks does not really create as much from open play as he does from set pieces so have beckham in the middle sitting in front of the defence with lennon on the right.thats what i would like to see happen but never would
Title: england not hungary Post by: Luci on Tuesday, May 30, 2006, 22:38:22 Hargreaves should be tea maker........hes terrible, completely useless
Title: england not hungary Post by: oxford_fan on Tuesday, May 30, 2006, 23:39:26 it was all a bit half-hearted, will they step it up a bit against jamaica or still be weary of injuries?
beckham is as fit as he's been for about 4 years, i think he'll have a good world cup. Title: england not hungary Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 01:47:32 Quote from: "red macca" obviously beckhams crossing was superb tonight.but anyone else notice second half that becks basically played centre mid (coz hargreaves is shit).heres my suggestion becks does not really create as much from open play as he does from set pieces so have beckham in the middle sitting in front of the defence with lennon on the right.thats what i would like to see happen but never would I was saying the same tonight before and after the game. Title: england not hungary Post by: Piemonte on Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 10:29:32 Crouch needs to play from the start with Owen. Little mikey is lost up front on his own, and gives us no outlet whatsoever.
As mentioned by some above, teams in our group will generally fear us and be defensive. 1 up front should be reserved for playing a better team in the latter stages who will push up and leave spaces for owen to exploit. Title: england not hungary Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 10:46:09 Quote from: "Piemonte" As mentioned by some above, teams in our group will generally fear us and be defensive. 1 up front should be reserved for playing a better team in the latter stages who will push up and leave spaces for owen to exploit. Iw we go down this route we need to be totally comfortable with the 4-1-4-1 system before we play someone good in the latter stages. Title: england not hungary Post by: STFC Village on Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 11:32:08 Bit of a furore over how Gerrard won the penalty (which was saved anyway)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2006/teams/england/5033004.stm Title: england not hungary Post by: adje on Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 11:52:20 If I was manager I'd be screaming at Beckham"Get out wide and do your fucking job or I'll bring someone on who will-I'm running this team you sarong-wearing puff,If I want you to play in the middle I'll fucking say so"-But,then,I dont like the bloke.Also,I'm a bit annoyed about the"other teams do it so why dont we"attitude towards diving in the box to get pens-if its "dirty cheating fucking foreigners"when others do it,its the same when we do(apart from the"foreinger"bit).Joe Cole was superb,Carrick must be gutted-If Eriksson so obviously doesn't rate him why is he in the squad?
Title: england not hungary Post by: DV on Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 11:54:35 I only watched the first half because it was so dull and boring....all I can say is....I fn hope Rooney is fit for the WC!!!!
Title: england not hungary Post by: STFC Village on Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 11:57:27 Quote from: "DV85" I only watched the first half because it was dull and boring.. You're lucky you missed the 2nd half then!Title: england not hungary Post by: Dazzza on Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 11:58:12 Beckham has been on about playing in the middle for years now right back to his united days and every time he has he's looked like a tuppence in a turd.
It's the old delirium wide men seem to suffer from, craving a move in the middle to see more of the ball but without considering defensive duties that come with the role. Grunt Sniff was similar when he first switched inside but he had the waddling Duke to his left to sweep up after him. Title: england not hungary Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 17:52:52 If Gerrard hadn't of dived, he would have been taken out anyway. I don't see what the fuss is about.
Title: england not hungary Post by: stfc_carver on Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 21:26:10 What happened last time beckham played in front of the back 4? we lost. to nothern ireland. nuff said.
Title: england not hungary Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 21:29:04 Quote from: "STFC Village" Quote from: "DV85" I only watched the first half because it was dull and boring.. You're lucky you missed the 2nd half then!Why? The second half was very entertaining for a friendly. Four goals and two of them were outstanding. Title: england not hungary Post by: red macca on Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 21:38:03 the gerrard incident is bollocks.that cunt lunged in with two feet it was a pen for dangerous play irrelevent whether he was touched or not.if he had not of dived he would have a broken leg now
Title: england not hungary Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 22:12:34 Quote from: "red macca" the gerrard incident is bollocks.that cunt lunged in with two feet it was a pen for dangerous play irrelevent whether he was touched or not.if he had not of dived he would have a broken leg now Exactly. I can't believe such a big thing has been made of it. If it was the other way round I would have still (grudgingly) admitted it was a penalty Title: england not hungary Post by: Amir on Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 22:15:44 Terry was a cheeky cunt claiming the second as well. String 'im up :nod:
Title: england not hungary Post by: red macca on Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 22:29:01 Quote from: "Amir" Terry was a cheeky cunt claiming the second as well. String 'im up :nod: but he scoredTitle: england not hungary Post by: Amir on Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 22:33:05 I haven't seen it since last night in the pub, but it looked very much to me as if Terry glanced it onto the defender's head.
Title: england not hungary Post by: red macca on Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 22:41:56 nah terrys goal all the way..you confused me then
Title: england not hungary Post by: Amir on Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 22:46:05 O well, string him up for going out with that 13 year-old then.
I sometimes wonder who is the happier out of him and his brother. One plays for Chelsea and England, is loaded and has a fit girlfriend(these days). The other is ginger and plays for Yeovil. |