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Who do you want?

I personally think it has to be someone English: thus I have Curbishley, McLaren, Allardyce and Pearce.

Secondly, I want a character, a bit of an inspiration; in my book ruling out boring Curbs and McLaren.

So I'm thinking Allardyce or Pearce, and I'd go for Pearce because the thought of a physical, tough England with Kevin Davies up front is a bit depressing.

Pearce for me then, ignore the inexperience, you'd want to play for this bloke I reckon.

Guus Hiddinck would do.

 None of the English candidates are realistic....but if we have to have one then Pearce at least has played international football.

I'd like to see Pearce develop himself as a manager at club level first. I can imagine him going to the England job and if it doesn't work out stuffing up his career for some time. I'd prefer him as England manager, just don't think it's for the best at this time.

Don't want Curbishley or McLaren.

I keep thinking no way to Allardyce but then change my mind every now and again. If he makes England play like Bolton I don't want him. But I don't think he will given the resources available. He has obviously worked out that a team on Bolton's budget will fair well in the league if they play that physical (and very dull football).

Do you reckon it's that harder job?

I mean that all the techincal staff deal with the training, medical staff with fitness etc. and the team pretty much picks itself, there's 8 or 9 players in this squad who could pretty much walk into any side in the world.

Or am I being a bit naive?

That's where tactics and motivation come into play. Which is why I wouldn't pick AC or SM

The problem with Allerdyce is he isn't much of a coach. He does not bring players up, he buys in experience. This is why I think he is not the best candidate for the job.

Pearce sounds appealing but he is relatively inexperienced and may want to build up a career at club level before going onto the international stage. A tough one

i think you're being hugely naive  :D

an englishman would be preferable but let's face it, none of the top managers in the premiership or anywhere else in the world are english and if success is neccesary, then you choose the best that's available regardless of nationality.

guus hiddinck's done well at international level, took south korea to the semi's(?) last time round. scolari's a quality bloke and wouldn't look out of place in my local to be fair.

i'd love to see pearce in charge but the fact is that he's not experienced enough. maybe in time for the next world cup.

Again, I might be being naive but I think an England side should pretty much be able to work out tactics for themselves. I'd get someone in who really gets them going and fired up... look no further than Pearce.

Clearly the tactics haven't been sorting themselves out for ages  :-))(

  Its an almost impossible job...we have some useful players, but they don't have a winnning mentality as a collective group.

 In order to get that given the circumstances of availabilty and fitness etc is very difficult.

 Managers like Curbishley Allardyce etc don't have it and don't really understand it.

 That's why we should pick the best for the job...Scoalri would be a viable candidate, apart from his English is poorish.

 Fabio Cappello would be another.....but Hiddinck is available and has a good track record of success, including WC experience.

A couldn't care less where the new man comes from.

But I hope it's not  Curbishley, McLaren or Allardyce. They just haven't achieved enough in management for me. I'd be as underwhelmed as the day we appointed Turnip. I think the job is at least 4 years too early for Pearce. He just needs a bit more experience.

So, you'd want someone who has already managed at international level? That's fair enough, I can see why that's an advantage.

Interestingly no-ones mentioned O'Neill.

these people are premiership footballers, of course they can't work out the tactics themselves. i'd be surprised if any of them how to use a fucking tin opener.

motivation is definitely an issue and was probably one of the biggest problems under sven. the only thing he could motivate me to do is fall into a coma.

perhaps a scolari/pearce combination would be good, doubt it'd work though.

i think o'neill is out of the equation due to his wife. the fact he's northern irish doesn't help either.

I think we should go for hiddink with pearce as assistant to fire people up and learn on the job.can't write a long explanation as my boss has just walked in

Hasn't he already declared himself available again?

Don't see the point of saying you don't want a foreigner and appointing O'Neill, who is as foreign as Hiddinck in my book.

   If you go down that road then Mark Hughes should come into the equation.

Mike Bassett !

i recon if we win the world cup we might aswell bash pearce in.
winning it will give us all the success/joy we crave from england. So appointing pearce and starting afresh would give him a bit of time to settle in because we'd be world champs...  a year or two in the wilderness so to speak wouldnt be too bad in the long run after a successful WC campaign

whole different story if we fail miserably at the world cup.

ABM

An interesting take on it, but would this really give Pearce the environment he would need for his first time at international level?

i'd put o'neill with mclaren - i think it'd be a disaster if either of those took over.

allardyce/crubs wouldn't be bad, and pearce must top the list.

i don't know a great deal about huddink

I think O'Neill would do a very good job for you lot.  Get motivator, good with the press, which is important, passionate, fans would love him

Allardyce has no chance as he was named by Sven as a bung taker so the FA don't want to take the gamble on him.

does o'neill have the tactical ability to win a world cup, for example?

 O'Neill is a long ball merchant....works to keep a Leicester in mid table, or in Sweatie land,  fair enough if that's your philosopohy then go with it.

  Graham Taylor made the mistake of not playing to his belief in long ball, and trying to get some football played.

thats what i thought, i hope o'neill isn't being considered

oh yeah, if we're going non english it has to be huddink or carlos alberto parreira.

i'd prefer pearce

Andy King

I want an English manager for the English team.I also dont think you need a mass of expierence to manage the national side.To be honest I dont even think its a full time job.

I'd want the best man for the job - that means getting Big Phil some English lessons quicksharp.

I'd prefer to have an Enghlishman in charge but none are good enough currently.

To those who think screaming and shouting at a bunch of 20-something millionaires will motivate them, look no further than the keegan debacle. No tactical knowlege at all.  Tactics & the ability to make big desisions are the making of a quality international manager. Big Phil has a track record in both.

This is why Andy King should become England manager. He has the tactical and motivational skills we're looking for. Might even give Pook a call up. Gerrard's been crap recently.

Beat me to it  :mrgreen:

Paul Jewell

Alan Pardew

Steve Coppell

....just a few names that havent been mentioned.

For me, I'd seriously try and go for Mourinho with maybe Pearce as a number 2.....

 Hiddink reached the semi final in 98 with Holland and 02 with South Korea.

  Has won the European Cup with PSV.....last season his PSV side mullered Milan in the Champions league, and somehow failed to win due to profligate finishing.

 He's available, says he'd like the job...the likes of Bobby Robson say its a job for an experienced man....

  Getting Australia to the finals could be something that is held against him mind.

all this bollocks about firing the team up and passion, short memories boys do you really want a return to kkegan?

 According to Jonathan Pearce...its a done deal...Trevor Brooking as a senior figure with Curbishley as coach and Pearce as the right hand man.

 You could easily see this being so.

Coppell would be a good choice in my book.Success at club level for those who think its a necessity,loads of international experience which in my opinion is the main qualification.Not only that but the bloke is a bit smart upstairs,unlike the people he will have to manage.

By the way,that was me ,I forgot to log in!

what happened to coppell last time he was put in charge of a big club? Man City he only lasted a few days  :shock:

 I thought it was a Jimmy style mong who had straight  away been banned for a ludicrous waste of bandwidth  :oops:

I can see it now Mex.

We've just failed to qualify for euro 2008 or gone out in the 1st round.

Pearce or whoever the FA got in to pander to the tabloids wanting an englishman to shout at people is getting raped in the press and resigns.

The tabloids clamour for "someone calm and tactically astute" :roll:

Guus Hiddink for me....none of the English managers have no experience at all.
McLaren, Curbishley, Alladyce, Pearce...none of them have ever achieved anything apart from keeping a mediocre side around mid-table in the Premiership.

Has to be a balance of someone with the reputation where by he can handle he can handle the bread bin of egos, the personality and drive to motivate and get the best of those egos with the cunning tactical nouse upstairs to get it right 99.9% of the time.

Reputation – Mourinho
Personality – Pearce
Brains – Hiddink

Roll them into a ball and you have the perfect man.  

I'd probably take O'Neil as the next best thing or Big Phil just for the comedy value.

I like the sound of Hiddink but if it had to be an English manager and I don't think it really should be, I'd be happiest with Allardyce who's probably had the most success out of the main candidates. He may come across as a mike bassett type manager but he's not really at all, he's very intelligent and a great tactician.

No need to worry about him playing Kevin Davies up front, he has had great success with a very physical style at Bolton but that's just making the best use of their resources.

I'd like to see Pearce as assistant but not manager yet.

England-big club?

Fuck off Reg

   :mooney:

Mclaren will get it because of the result on thursday

fuck Mclaren hes a wanker!

Yes-and what always makes me smile,he "has the backing of the players".Course he fucking has because someone else might not pick them!Players should have NO INFLUENCE WHATSOEVER on who becomes England boss-especially that cunt Beckham.

it can't be mclaren. he's been in the set up with sven while we've been playing shite football. nothin will change if mclaren gets the job.

lovely work by gareth here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/4935940.stm

i read the whole interview in the paper and the whole thing was about how m'boro's change in form wasn't really down to mclaren at all, but southgate, parlour and hasselbaink giving their team-mates a grilling.

i'd be gutted if it was mclaren, but hopefully this will scupper his chances. wouldn't want o'neill either, from what i remember about his leicester reign he wasn't exactly a master tactician.

which, for me, leaves allardyce and curbo or a foreigner like scolari.

I think it has to be between Big Phil, Big Sam and Big Ron.

Big Phil's definately back in the running?  Superb  :D

Yep,all this shit about how the manager has to be English :roll: ,fuck that i want the best around,this is the England job and its the biggest in the world.I'm sorry but all the English candidates don't inspire any confidence in me at all,if we can't have Gus then Big Phil it is[hopefully,though i expect the FA will fuck it up :x ]

Big Phil Denies FA Approach

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/4938326.stm

Portugal coach Luiz Felipe Scolari says he has not been interviewed by the Football Association about becoming England's next manager.
Several newspaper reports in England suggested the Brazilian was set to get the job after having an impressive second interview.

"No, I don't (sic) have an interview," Scolari told BBC Radio Five Live.

"I am coach of Portugal and I am only thinking and speaking about Portugal until the last day of the World Cup."

FFS,its going to be pissing Maclaren isn't it :x .Abandon all hope people :( I want Big Phil :cry:

i reckon its scolari, who, like the bbc thing says, is contracted to portugal for this world cup so they can't announce it until they go out.

i'm not sure cost is a consideration; sven is on about £8m a year or something, about £4m more than any other national coach.

God the FA are good aren't they :roll:

apparently sven is paid £4m a year, not 8.

scolari out of the running according to tonights news. reading todays paper he seemed a cert. or is it just smoke and mirrors not wanting to piss off portugal?

I'd say the FA probably refused to buckle to Scolari's wage demands, under pressure from alot of the FA who want an Englishman, the Big Phil idea's gone out the window.

Coppell would make a good manager and believe not so long ago he actually said it'd be a dream come true. :)

yeah get Coppell that will wipe the smile of those Reading cunts  :D

When did Coppell say it would be a dream come true, I thought he said something like even Alex Ferguson would struggle at Swindon with the state the club was in.

Oh sorry is this England manager but still, same question when did he say it, I heard that Coppell said he would never be interested in the England job because of the media attention surrounding the job.

He also said Andy King was doing a great job at Swindon, under very difficult circumstances, and preferred groundless Brighton, to taking up our offer of a job.

Mclaren is nearly a certainty now isn't he. Jesus fucking wept. I've never been so
underwhelmed since Turnip was appointed.

Surely there has to be a better list than Mclaren, Curbs and Alladyce....

It'll be Steve McClaren, according to Big Sam

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/4971072.stm

 :|

It is Steve McLaren

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/4969592.stm

Great.

 :fu: FA

I'm just elated that they've finally appointed some one, ANYONE!!!!!

I take it he's leaving Boro then?

 :nod: Well said Batch,when i thought it would be Big Phil i actually felt enthusiastic at the thought of watching England play again,but no our media scare the bloke away and we are left with Macclaren, :boring: