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does anybody  else get really pissed off when they call it an english club? more bloody englishman in the real madrid team! all this 'eboue' and 'toure' bollocks really pisses me of arsenal are an english team therefore should have english players milan are italian therefore italian players please etc its the reason ive become so uninterested in the premiership a bunch of over paid divers league two all the way! why should i be bothered about an 'english' team playing in europe if none of the players are english?????

where are they based? what league do they play in?

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i hope they win tbh

because their fans are english?

because english football will benefit from it

i think clubs should have to have a minimum of, say 5 english players in their starting lineup within 5 years, but its still not a bad thing for an english club to win it

how many english players where invovled on tuesday ................................................. 0

thats why i couldn't give a flying fucking fuck about the champions league.... anglo italian comeback i'm always hoping for!

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What difference would having English players make? When you decide which player to buy/play do you look at Bob and Bjarni and decide that , although Bjarni is the better player and half the price, you would rather buy/play Bob because he's English?

Surely the biggest teams want the best players, no matter what nationality they are. Only a few English players would get into the Arsenal side that played on Tuesday, and they would be impossible to sign.

I thought they Champions League tie on Tuesday was a fantastic result for a very, very good group of young players. Not a group of foreigners.

If Ashley Cole had played would that have been acceptable? How about Cole AND Campbell? If Wenger had played with Richard Wright in goal, Upson at CB instead of Toure, Pennant instead of Hleb, Bentley instead of Pires and Walcott instead of Reyes, would that make you feel better.

When you play FM do you only sign English players for English clubs?

Cretin.

I don't like the way that the big teams ignore home grown talent. That is what is wrong with the SPL and it has led to Scottish national football becoming a joke.

I agree that clubs should sign the best players, but also think there should be regulations on home grown players.

Were'nt a load of people on here complaining about immigrants recently?

All this "they've got no English players in their side" bollocks makes me laugh, two words sum up why Wenger doesnt buy English players 'Franny Jeffers!", why pay loads for an English player when he can get a better foreigner for a quarter of the price.

thats bollocks, if a player is good enough they will play, nobody is being ignored

I don't think i could take Arsenal winning the Champs League. I hate them more than i hate paedophiles

i hope they win it,when on fire they are the best side to watch in this country.

Fucking Yid!  :wink:

I'm sure DB would love to see them on fire  :o

I'm sure they are ace to watch when caught in an inferno.  Build a bonfire, build a bonfire...

This arguement that having English players at top clubs is bollocks. If you throw a couple of medicore young english (Pook? :D ) players into the arsenal side, will it make them better players in the long run or just make arsenal a worse team in the shot term?

Quality will always rise to the top. So what if young english players dont get a chance at top clubs? They will just drop down to a lower premiership or championship club, get some 1st team football, and if they are good enough, end up at a top club again sooner or later.  

The vast majority of the current England squad have been earmarked as potential stars since their teenage years, and have been given 1st team football. The others simply wewnt good enough

I think teams should have to have a minumum number of English players in their sides even if it's just 3.

I don't really care whether Arsenal win or lose in the champions league but I thought the Juventus match was supposed to be a good game, I watched the highlights on eurosport and it was crap. Some shocking misses from both sides and it was boring. My housemates thought the same. They certainly aren't the best side to watch in this country.

And who are?, Chelsea?.  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

bwb in another shocking day of pro chelsea posting.
le saux's the best! of course he is, he's an old blue.
chelsea are the best team to watch! that's what's coming next i'll wager.
drogba is entitled to use his arm, he's got silly hair!
mourinho is not insane, he's just very passionate!
etc

How many English players did Liverpool use in the final last year...2?

Are we going to disown them as well  :roll:

ps. Arsenal ARE the best team to watch in the Prem. When they get going they are ace

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all i was saying is why should i care about arsenal in the champions league?

they ARE NOT an english team. they are multicultural and for that reason id rather they didnt suceed, id much rather see a team with british players play well.

Did you say the same about Liverpool last season?

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Racist!

Hate them as much as you want but DV speaks the truth.

What the fuck are you going on about, I don't particularly like le saux. If you read what I said I just said he was better than Shearer as a pundit which is not fucking difficult. Mourinho though is a legend, no doubt about that. Shame he's not interested in the England job.

Spurs are a better team to watch by far than Arsenal and yeah Chelsea are too. Personally I also prefer to watch West Ham, Portsmouth, Liverpool, and to be honest most of the teams in the premiership.

Makes me laugh all these gooners with their inferiority complex, Arsenal aren't that good, get over it.

get over it mate, at their peak they play the best stuff around

I'd have to wager now that they've got rid of that pinball Viera they're not bad to oggle.

Saying that did anyone see Manchester Utd's 4 minutes of madness against Bolton tonight?

T'was not bad.

And when are they at their peak, about once every four years, if that was their peak against Juventus then it wasn't very impressive. Arsenal were the better side but Juventus were shockingly poor.

The truth is that most of the time Arsenal really aren't that good to watch.

No because they have Crouch now and at his size he counts as 10 English players. PS. You still owe me £100.

ben you're making a fool out of yourself.

chelsea do not play good football it's as simple as that.

spurs can but they're let down by flids like jenas who can miss from a yard out and liverpool with morientes, who has the same skill.

west ham do play good football that one is true, help yourself to a lolly on the way out

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Please stop you're making a tit of yourself.

are you on a massive wind-up, wah balls!?

effing chelsea fans

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that's why you're champions, that's why you're champions

Yes, because Crouch played a massive part in Liverpools Champions League success last year :roll:

Come find me and I'll pay up....

The point is they have Crouch now, in addition to Fowler, Gerrard and Carragher who all regularly start so they do have an English core.



There's been a load of games this year when Arsenal simply haven't played well at all, that's why their away record is won 4, drawn 3, lost 8 and they've only scored 13 goals. Take the Blackburn game, they were thoroughly outplayed and deservedly beaten. Blackburn also played much the better football, their goal was superb. But that's been the case more often than not this season especially when they play away from home.

Not forgetting Steve Warnock as well, I'm doubting they have a more English players than Arsenal, however they won the Champions League with just 2....which isnt alot.

I was just wondering if these people who are anti Arsenal are English felt the same way about Liverpool who didnt have many English men at all

Lets be honest if Ashley Cole and Campbell werent injured they would be playing, thats the same amount of English players Liverpool had in their side when they won in Istanbul.

Personally I do definitely like Liverpool a lot more this year now because they have more English players, I wasn't particularly bothered about them last year, although I wanted them to win the final rather than AC Milan but I'd be quite happy to see them win the premiership now.

Even though I don't like Arsenal at all though on balance I'd still rather they won the champions league than most of the other teams in it.

Well as Swindon didnt have a game this weekend I managed to get a ticket to see the Mighty Arsenal :)

couldnt have picked a better game .. plus it was a Row A seat in the North Bank .. Henry and Van Persie scored absolute crackers and it was an all round brilliant display

Also saw the new ground .. it is awesum ... puts Old Trafford in the shade and that is probably the best stadium ive ever been to

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The same presitigious Old Trafford with decades of history. Oh and by next year 15,000 more seats than Ashburton. Yes well done.

youll agree with me when Swindon play there .... after our successive promotions of course

I doubt that very much as it is smaller than Old Trafford. Wembley will kick the arse of them all when it is finally complete in 2009.

talking of wembley the real reason it has been delayed is that because it's built on clay all the weight has made it sink 6 inches deeper due to the wet weather we've had

worst case scenario is that they have to start again or (forgot it's name) they stick stick loads of concrete underneath to support it