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Title: premature jubilation
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, February 18, 2006, 18:02:10
today was a wake up call.
i stated yesterday most players aint worthy of a 2 year contract.i stand by those comments
cureton,peacock and o'hanlon were the only decent performers today.
shakes first touch is abysmal,gurney has lost the plot,and nicholas cant pass the ball to save his life.
the rest i aint mentioned were poor-average today.
we have a long way to go yet to stay in this division.
too many people got carried away with this contract business,they still need to earn them yet.


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: DiV on Saturday, February 18, 2006, 18:03:28
O'Hanlon was fucking awful today and Ifil was the much better of the two...


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, February 18, 2006, 18:04:23
no DV O'Hanlon didnt do badly neither did Jerel


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, February 18, 2006, 18:07:09
Quote from: "DV85"
O'Hanlon was fucking awful today and Ifil was the much better of the two...


made one last ditch tackle when one on oneand battled like fuck.
justify why he was awful


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: DiV on Saturday, February 18, 2006, 18:10:56
Quote from: "arriba"
Quote from: "DV85"
O'Hanlon was fucking awful today and Ifil was the much better of the two...


made one last ditch tackle when one on oneand battled like fuck.
justify why he was awful


Where was he for the second goal?


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: Johno on Saturday, February 18, 2006, 18:13:44
no one was there for the 2nd goal. can't blame just o hanlon for that.  can understand why, but he isn't our defence, there were 3 others.


Title: Re: premature jubilation
Post by: my-velocity on Saturday, February 18, 2006, 18:23:25
Quote from: "arriba"
today was a wake up call.
i stated yesterday most players aint worthy of a 2 year contract.i stand by those comments
cureton,peacock and o'hanlon were the only decent performers today.
shakes first touch is abysmal,gurney has lost the plot,and nicholas cant pass the ball to save his life.
the rest i aint mentioned were poor-average today.
we have a long way to go yet to stay in this division.
too many people got carried away with this contract business,they still need to earn them yet.


Rhys Evans was quality today too, he had to work hard with a very sloppy defence. Also, Curo and Peacock both played very well, worked very hard too.


Title: Re: premature jubilation
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, February 18, 2006, 18:40:20
Quote from: "stfcbeckett"
Quote from: "arriba"
today was a wake up call.
i stated yesterday most players aint worthy of a 2 year contract.i stand by those comments
cureton,peacock and o'hanlon were the only decent performers today.
shakes first touch is abysmal,gurney has lost the plot,and nicholas cant pass the ball to save his life.
the rest i aint mentioned were poor-average today.
we have a long way to go yet to stay in this division.
too many people got carried away with this contract business,they still need to earn them yet.


Rhys Evans was quality today too, he had to work hard with a very sloppy defence. Also, Curo and Peacock both played very well, worked very hard too.


already said that cureton and peacock played well,evans was average


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: ST_INC on Saturday, February 18, 2006, 18:42:47
Gurney was a waste of space today. Nico and Migs crap. Curo and Peacock played well, as did Evans.

Was impressed with Rotherham, bearing in mind there position, and compairing them to Gillingham. They were up for it, and wanted it more.

Or was it we were so crap we made them look good.


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: Sade on Saturday, February 18, 2006, 18:47:48
I Think jame curetons post match interview was spot on.

Like he said we are a long way from safety and its a wake up call to the lads that even though we are on a good run we need to keep picking up points because if we don't we could slip all the way down again.

It was a poor game, all credit to rotherham as they played particulary well in the 2nd half.

I was quite suprised with gurney. His temper got the better of him as we seen today when he got subbed. Walked of down the tunnel in a piss.

Look at the positives though, we are still out of relegation and we can still do it.
We are still a good strong team, and without making excuses we did have a few injurys today. Confidence is still high and I'm sure this would of been a big kick up the ass today so I reckon we can get a good result still next saturday.

Bring on NF !  :D
(oh yes I was not happy as our little flag was on the stratton bank and then a bloody rotherham fan put his bloody flag infront of it! The cheek!)


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: magicroundabout on Saturday, February 18, 2006, 18:54:47
Quote from: "DV85"
O'Hanlon was fucking awful today and Ifil was the much better of the two...


 :shake:

he and Ifil played well today. Smith and Nico were fucking shit.
because they were rubbish it meant our defence was stretched which put Ifil and O'Hanlon under even more preasure.

Our midfield were non existant. Gurney was awful.

i'm glad this has happend cos it means our team wont become to complacent. Hopefully it is a wake up call to everyone and makes them open there eyes to see we are no where near out of this mess and they need to fight alot harder than they have been of late.


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: DiV on Saturday, February 18, 2006, 18:55:38
Quote from: "Johno"
no one was there for the 2nd goal. can't blame just o hanlon for that.  can understand why, but he isn't our defence, there were 3 others.


I meant the first goal my mistake  :oops:


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: DiV on Saturday, February 18, 2006, 18:56:57
Quote from: "magicroundabout"
Quote from: "DV85"
O'Hanlon was fucking awful today and Ifil was the much better of the two...


 :shake:

he and Ifil played well today. Smith and Nico were fucking shit.
because they were rubbish it meant our defence was stretched which put Ifil and O'Hanlon under even more preasure.

Our midfield were non existant. Gurney was awful.

i'm glad this has happend cos it means our team wont become to complacent. Hopefully it is a wake up call to everyone and makes them open there eyes to see we are no where near out of this mess and they need to fight alot harder than they have been of late.


Totally agreed


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: Tails on Saturday, February 18, 2006, 23:44:53
To be fair, I think we have a right to get carried away especially with the god awful performances we had at the start of the season, but I do think we needed a wake up call.

We'll stay up!


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, February 19, 2006, 01:22:56
Rotherham are on good form. Tbh I didn't expect much (maybe a draw) today becuase of this. As long as we can bounce back and create goals I can't see a problem.


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: Bennett on Sunday, February 19, 2006, 10:23:49
o hanlon didn't appear to be anywhere near fit. he was playing everyone onside numerous times and had no positional sense. our backline couldn't decide if they were going to push up or sit back and we got punished.

curo/cock played well together when peacock wasn't getting raped.
ifil was ace. rest of the defence was utter shite

umm i think that's about it, everyone in the midfield was shite. but we're playing long ball now so we don't need a midfield. especially not two wingers, heavens no


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: Tails on Sunday, February 19, 2006, 13:48:09
We haven't been playing long ball recently though which is why we've been doing better.


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: reeves4england on Sunday, February 19, 2006, 14:15:25
Agree with Tails there. The reason we were crap yesterday was because (i hear) we didn't get it wide..

To me this is a joke because all of our success recently has come from wide areas. Why change it? There is no point putting out 11 players if you are only going to use 7 or 8 of them


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: Johno on Sunday, February 19, 2006, 14:32:12
the wingers didn't help themselves though at all. they didn't get forward, make runs and because of rotherham battering us in the centre of the park, the wingers then joined in the middle. i can understand why, but it didn't help.

was a complete cock up in midfield.


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: Johno on Sunday, February 19, 2006, 14:32:39
also, forgot to say. Smith ahd Nicho didn't help the wingers either. they were crap yesterday.


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: santini on Sunday, February 19, 2006, 21:37:55
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "Johno"
no one was there for the 2nd goal. can't blame just o hanlon for that.  can understand why, but he isn't our defence, there were 3 others.


I meant the first goal my mistake  :oops:
Their second goal came from a great free kick (wasn't a foul though!!) and was a rehearsed move. Peacock? went to sleep and didn't challenge their free man at the back post.

Their first goal came from a classic headless chicken blunder from Ifil. It was his man free at the back who scored. O'Hanlon was missing out wide with Smith as Rotherham worked a crossing position. Ifil had to decide who to mark but went into panic mode. The ball was whipped in. Nicho followed his man as the strikers crossed. Jerel didn't and left his man free.  Absolutely and totally Ifil's fault ... again.


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: DMR on Sunday, February 19, 2006, 22:08:43
It was a foul, Nicho hauled him down. Besides he shouldn't have got done in the first place. Nor would I call it great, pretty routine cross that should've been dealt with.

The first goal was awful, both CB's got sucked in to the man at the near post and no-one bothered to cover the lad at the back post.


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: santini on Sunday, February 19, 2006, 22:25:03
Quote from: "dave_m_russell"
It was a foul, Nicho hauled him down. Besides he shouldn't have got done in the first place. Nor would I call it great, pretty routine cross that should've been dealt with.

The first goal was awful, both CB's got sucked in to the man at the near post and no-one bothered to cover the lad at the back post.
Bollox.

Nicho read the check back and stood still while the attacker fell over. Ref was conned. Looks like you were too.

Both CB were not in the middle. One CB (O'Hanlon) was out wide. The other (Ifil) lost his man. Pay attention. :wink:


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: DMR on Sunday, February 19, 2006, 22:28:54
If that what happened... then how can you expect Ifil to cover? He stays on his man, the guy at the front post has a clear run on goal... he goes in he leaves his man alone behind him... no win situation

If Nicholas was back covering it wouldn't have mattered  :wink:


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: santini on Sunday, February 19, 2006, 23:12:26
Quote from: "dave_m_russell"
If that what happened... then how can you expect Ifil to cover?
1. Stay awake
2. Run when his man runs.
3. Preferably in same direction.


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: larwood on Monday, February 20, 2006, 09:16:00
As i feared Saturday was crap,as usual we failed to turn up in front of a big home crowd :( Fair play to the yorkies,they played well and deserved to win.They played the way we've been playing over recent weeks,chasing the ball putting the opposition under pressure. Even though we scored two goals,there was never really a point at which i thought we'd get something out of the game.
At least most of the other results went our way.


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: McLovin on Monday, February 20, 2006, 10:34:31
From teh Arkells, it seemed as if Reeves held J.Smith at fault for the first goal.  As O'Hanlon came out wide (following his own poor clearance) he was yelling at Smith to get in the middle and cover for O'Hanlon.  This he ignored, and when the goal went in, Reeves turned towards the dugout and appeared to yell "I fucking told him"...


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: Batch on Monday, February 20, 2006, 12:00:02
To be fair the defence parted like the red sea all match. It wasn't helped by a completely anonymous midfield display.

A wake up call indeed. But at least we are still with a fighting chance.


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: larwood on Monday, February 20, 2006, 12:25:43
Quote

It wasn't helped by a completely anonymous midfield display.

Yep,it was like the bad old days again,the ball was almost constantly coming back at the defence,we couldn't seem to hold on to the ball at all.


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: santini on Monday, February 20, 2006, 12:58:42
Quote from: "Johno"
also, forgot to say. Smith ahd Nicho didn't help the wingers either. they were crap yesterday.
Great insight there from young Johno. Just shows how much we have relied on our full backs to drive forward.  They play well, we play well. Saturday they were both inept and we saw what happened.


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: DiV on Monday, February 20, 2006, 13:13:04
Quote from: "santini"
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "Johno"
no one was there for the 2nd goal. can't blame just o hanlon for that.  can understand why, but he isn't our defence, there were 3 others.


I meant the first goal my mistake  :oops:
Their second goal came from a great free kick (wasn't a foul though!!) and was a rehearsed move. Peacock? went to sleep and didn't challenge their free man at the back post.

Their first goal came from a classic headless chicken blunder from Ifil. It was his man free at the back who scored. O'Hanlon was missing out wide with Smith as Rotherham worked a crossing position. Ifil had to decide who to mark but went into panic mode. The ball was whipped in. Nicho followed his man as the strikers crossed. Jerel didn't and left his man free.  Absolutely and totally Ifil's fault ... again.


Dont see how Ifil was at fault, it was SeanO that had gone walk about, he was out of position, leaving Ifil in the middle with two men to mark, Nicho comes across to the middle which leaves a man over.

Someone other than Nicho should have dropped back into the middle with Ifil. Probably J.Smith of even one of the midfielders.


Title: premature jubilation
Post by: santini on Monday, February 20, 2006, 16:02:12
Quote from: "DV85"
Dont see how Ifil was at fault, it was SeanO that had gone walk about, he was out of position, leaving Ifil in the middle with two men to mark, Nicho comes across to the middle which leaves a man over.

Someone other than Nicho should have dropped back into the middle with Ifil. Probably J.Smith of even one of the midfielders.
Ifil was in the middle with one man to mark. He didn't stay with him. Nicho went with his man. Ifil didn't but should have. Classic defending ploy in the box ... stay with your own man running.