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Title: World Cup Day 9
Post by: Langers on Friday, June 20, 2014, 16:45:30
Oh fuck off Italy...


Title: Re: World Cup Day 9
Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, June 20, 2014, 16:47:32
Was a clear pen for CR before that goal
Shocking ref shocking decision


Title: Re:
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 20, 2014, 16:54:56
If we lose to CR, we can put Italy or Uraguay out. Plenty to lack of play for.


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Post by: Batch on Friday, June 20, 2014, 17:01:02
Oh wait. If things stay as they are that will happen anyway...


Title: Re: World Cup Day 9
Post by: kerry red on Friday, June 20, 2014, 17:04:20
Woy keeps his job til 2016

Oh joy!


Title: Re: World Cup Day 9
Post by: Costanza on Friday, June 20, 2014, 17:13:03
There isn't a coach that really stands out as ready/available for England at this moment in time.

Which is a part of a bigger problem with English football.


Title: Re: World Cup Day 9
Post by: kerry red on Friday, June 20, 2014, 17:14:46
Can't make a silk purse out of a horse's arse


Title: Re: World Cup Day 9
Post by: kerry red on Friday, June 20, 2014, 17:16:24
And why are/were Italy and Uruguay absolute shite until they play England?


Title: Re: World Cup Day 9
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, June 20, 2014, 17:20:42
Italy and Uruguay certainly played better against England. Not sure because they up their game against us or we simply let them play. Maybe a combination of the two.


Title: Re: World Cup Day 9
Post by: donkey on Friday, June 20, 2014, 17:27:36
Italy and Uruguay certainly played better against England. Not sure because they up their game against us or we simply let them play. Maybe a combination of the two.

Maybe we're not as good as Costa Rica?


Title: Re: World Cup Day 9
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, June 20, 2014, 17:48:31
Maybe we're not as good as Costa Rica?
Maybe not, they're more organised defensively than us.


Title: Re: World Cup Day 9
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 20, 2014, 17:55:17
Well played Costa Rica. You were meant to come last in the group.

Now Italy or Uruguay to go home. Win/win.


Title: Re: World Cup Day 9
Post by: Summerof69 on Friday, June 20, 2014, 17:55:20
Game Over. Cosa Rica through and Italy play Uruguay in a winner takes all match.

England go out.


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Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 20, 2014, 17:58:48
Oh wait. If things stay as they are that will happen anyway...

England v Costa Rica, a dead rubber because one team is through and one team is out  :hmmm:

As for Woy....it's fair enough for Dyke to come out straight away and say he carries on to the next Euro....I felt a loss to Costa Rica, might have left him struggling to public opinion, but now as they're clearly better than us....a nothing to lose game he can try and experiment in....


Title: Re: World Cup Day 9
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, June 20, 2014, 19:04:31
Drop Rooney and Gerrard. Pick Shaw at LB. Give Barclay a run. Give another keeper a go as well. I would drop Cahill and Jagielka but you can't pick Jones or Smalling. Might as well give some youngsters some World Cup game time, given our shambles of a defence it may be the only opportunity they get.


Title: Re: World Cup Day 9
Post by: Nemo on Friday, June 20, 2014, 19:32:05
For anyone keen on free money, Costa Rica remain bafflingly 9/2 to beat England in the final game on PP.


Title: Re: World Cup Day 9
Post by: LucienSanchez on Saturday, June 21, 2014, 00:20:21
Costa fucking Rica are better than us. That's a low point. Might as well try some fringe players, no use in plodding on with proven failures or those not likely to play in Euro 2016 (Gerrard), use the next game for experience for the next campaign.


Title: Re: World Cup Day 9
Post by: jonny72 on Saturday, June 21, 2014, 08:19:59
There isn't a coach that really stands out as ready/available for England at this moment in time.

Which is a part of a bigger problem with English football.

Tony Pulis. Now before everyone laughs;

Firstly, he is practically English having spent pretty much all his playing and managerial career here.

Secondly, his management and playing style is what you need to win games at major tournaments. A strong and tight defence that doesn't make mistakes. He'd get the best out of our players and make them very hard to beat.

Of course, the downside is watching them play would be really depressing.

Wouldn't happen, but the other option would be bringing someone like Pulis in as a coach to help sort out specific issues.


Title: Re: World Cup Day 9
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, June 21, 2014, 08:20:31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J125_gQwVDU

Martin O'Neill provides the best part of ITVs analysis yet.


Title: Re: World Cup Day 9
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, June 21, 2014, 09:39:34
Come on, guys.

Any new manager can't make our central defenders improve to WC standard.

Until we produce defenders who are happy to receive the ball in tight situations and not revert to type at the slightest sign of danger by lumping it we will remain stuck as perennial fuckwits.

We seem able to produce decent midfielders and forwards every now and again, yet, as a footballing nation, we don't seem to get beyond the Butcher/Terry type of bulldog defenders.

No new manager is going to change that


Title: Re: World Cup Day 9
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, June 21, 2014, 09:50:56

Until we produce defenders who are happy to receive the ball in tight situations and not revert to type at the slightest sign of danger by lumping it we will remain stuck as perennial fuckwits.



I think lumping it forward would be an improvement for this lot, it'll mean they at least got to the ball rather than standing about and watching the opposition striker put it in the net.


Title: Re: World Cup Day 9
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, June 21, 2014, 09:52:23
You could be right there.

Of course, the razzmatazz of the PL will soon erase the shitness from the memory


Title: Re: World Cup Day 9
Post by: DiV on Saturday, June 21, 2014, 10:24:29
Opposite, think we need to stop trying to make our defenders ' all playing centre halfs' if they can do it naturally, great...

If they can't just let them defend - we need blood and guts, everything on the line, Tony Adams defenders....not poncy ball players


Title: Re: World Cup Day 9
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, June 21, 2014, 10:38:20
Opposite, think we need to stop trying to make our defenders ' all playing centre halfs' if they can do it naturally, great...

If they can't just let them defend - we need blood and guts, everything on the line, Tony Adams defenders....not poncy ball players

I still have nightmares about Tony Adams style defenders after Euro 88, when he was systematically dismantled by Marco van Basten.

Sol Campbell and Rio Ferdinand of relatively recent vintage is the sort of thing we need again....it's just they don't come along very often


Title: Re: World Cup Day 9
Post by: LucienSanchez on Saturday, June 21, 2014, 11:35:01
If only Ledley King had better knees