New beginnings - 25% Truth, 80% Bollocks

[RobertT]

The question really has to be. where did Kiely come from?  Clem probably knows nobody and sounds pretty ill informed whenever he talks about the club.  It's unlikely, in my mind, that he had scoured the backrooms of the football world and identified Kiely as an up and coming Data/Recruitment wizard.  The fact Kiely later ends up owning shares and lending money, would suggest someone else - because he doesn't exactly have the background that leads you to thinking millionaire.  A pretty crap football career, a company that exists to rent out a property and another in horse racing.  He's too young and unknown in that world (relatively speaking) to have made much that way.

[Nemo]

His dad was a Premier League footballer for a decade, there'll be a bit of money around the family.

[RobertT]

His dad was a Premier League footballer for a decade, there'll be a bit of money around the family.

I'm not sure he'd have earned a fortune though - I am sure he could be part of how Chris was brought in, through contacts, but of whom?

[Costanza]

His dad was a Premier League footballer for a decade, there'll be a bit of money around the family.

Am I prepared to believe that Dean Kiely/family has millions of pounds lying around? And could I believe that he'd be ready to pump a lot of money into a football club that your son may or may not have significant interests in?

I am not.

 

[Nemo]

Kiely hasn't pumped money in though has he? He's issued a secured loan on credit terms we don't know.

If the implication is that the money is someone else's, it's not really clear why Michael Standing would be significantly richer. There seem to be a lot of people involved who are very well off but hardly on a Black/Arbib level.

[RobertT]

Kiely hasn't pumped money in though has he? He's issued a secured loan on credit terms we don't know.

If the implication is that the money is someone else's, it's not really clear why Michael Standing would be significantly richer. There seem to be a lot of people involved who are very well off but hardly on a Black/Arbib level.

I'm not suggesting the who - just that Chris Kiely's arrival, and then "investment" seems a bit left field.  It really doesn't matter, it's ultimately responsible for the player churn and lack of backbone in the squad, regardless of how he got here.  It was more that the Garner interview got me wondering about the why - given the season had gone about as well as anyone would have expected.

[Riddick]

It was more that the Garner interview got me wondering about the why - given the season had gone about as well as anyone would have expected.

Its exactly that for me as well. Clem has come in, the only footballing person he knew at that point was Chorley, and Chorley with Garner performed pretty well during that first season given conditions.

Chorley it was said left for personal reasons.

Listening to Garner, and from other rumours over time, its more likely Chorley left because of changes the club was about to make. So why the hell did the club decide what Chorley and Garner had done wasn't good enough, and why was Kiely (his data model) and Sandro identified as an improvement by Clem. It just doesn't seem very likely that it was to me.

As Sam M has said on recent LSPOD, he really needs to try and uncover Kiely and get to the bottom of that to understand whats going on at the club.

[tans]

From what i heard Chorley didnt get on with Zav Austin. Make of that what you will.

[Jimmy HaveHave]

I’m intrigued to know how Garner has suddenly reappeared to tell his side of the story as to why he left and how he was offered the opportunity to comment on a live Swindon Town Town match as he didn’t exactly leave on great terms. Maybe the plot is thickening😁

[The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey]

Obviously, the perceived wisdom is that he walked at the first opportunity. Seemingly pointing the finger at Clem changing direction, it seems unlikely Clem would ask him back.

If I continue to have trouble sleeping maybe I’d think about having him back - not!

[Peter Venkman]

Under the circumstances Garner worked near miracles in that season, but he walked at the first sniff of a new job and he never ingratiated himself to fans with his dour pre/post match talks, he was the epitomy of dull.

[Jimmy HaveHave]

Which is baffling why he’s taking an interest in STFC again.

[Posh Red]

Which is baffling why he’s taking an interest in STFC again.

Maybe because he’s getting paid to do it?

[Jimmy HaveHave]

Maybe because he’s getting paid to do it?

By who BBC Wilts😁

[TheDukeOfBanbury]

From what i heard Chorley didnt get on with Zav Austin. Make of that what you will.

Correct.