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« Reply #210 on: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 09:48:22 » |
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Gary Waddock from Wycombe?? I know they've just gone up but might think he's taken them as far as he can?  Please not Rix or Magilton though. |
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« Reply #211 on: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 09:55:06 » |
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If it's tisdale I'll go dancing naked in the street and take photos and post them on here.
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« Reply #212 on: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 09:55:20 » |
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I doubt it. If you're an experienced manager like Burley and you apply for a job with Swindon Town you've reached the point of desperation and all demands and expectations are out the window. Besides which, we've got to have one of the top 5 highest budgets in the lowest two divisions, so I'm sure we pay a decent wage to our managers.
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« Reply #213 on: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 09:55:51 » |
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If it's tisdale I'll go dancing naked in the street and take photos and post them on here.
I'd have been quite happy with Tisdale until you said this. No to Tisdale! |
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« Reply #214 on: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 10:13:12 » |
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It's not Tisdale...
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« Reply #215 on: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 10:25:40 » |
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I’m not quite sure what type of manager I want us to have in League Two. I certainly want us to compete for promotion. There have been plenty of successful rookies at L2 level to take their teams up.
2004/05:
1st: Yeovil Town (Gary Johnson: had been in the YTFC job 4 years when promoted)
2nd: Scuthorpe United (Brian Laws: had been in the SCFC job 7 years when promoted)
3rd: Swansea City (Kenny Jackett: Experienced coach yet still a relatively rookie manager)
P-O: Southend United (Steve Tilson: Appointed in 2003 as a rookie)
2005/06:
1st: Carlisle United (Paul Simpson: 2nd job, still new to management)
2nd: Northampton Town (Colin Calderwood: Appointed as a rookie)
3rd: Leyton Orient (Martin Ling: Appointed as a rookie)
P-O: Cheltenham Town (John Ward: Experienced)
2006/07
1st: Richard Money (Experienced)
2nd: Hartlepool United (Danny Wilson: Experienced)
3rd: Swindon Town (Paul Sturrock: Experienced/Dennis Wise helped build the squad)
P-O: Bristol Rovers (Paul Trollope: Appointed as a rookie)
2007/08
1st: Franchise: (Paul Ince: Relative rookie)
2nd: Peterborough United (Darren Ferguson: Rookie)
3rd: Hereford United (Graham Turner: Over a decade as manager of Hereford)
P-O: Stockport County (Jim Gannon: Relatively new to management)
2008/09:
1st: Brentford (Andy Scott: Rookie)
2nd: Exeter City (Paul Tisdale: Rookie)
3rd: Wycombe Wanderers (Peter Taylor: Experienced)
P-O: Gillingham (Mark Stimson: No Football League experience as manager prior to GFC)
2009/10:
1st: Notts County (Multiple managers)
2nd: Bournemouth (Eddie Howe: Appointed as a rookie)
3rd: Rochdale (Keith Hill: Appointed as a rookie)
P-O: Dagenham & Redbridge (John Still: Experience, had been with D&R 5 years or so)
2010/11:
1st: Chesterfield (John Sheridan: Decent experience)
2nd: Bury (Experienced Alan Knill did the work, rookie Richie Barker finished)
3rd: Wycombe Wanderers (Gary Waddock: Decent but relatively limited experience)
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Reg Smeeton
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« Reply #216 on: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 10:51:35 » |
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I’m not quite sure what type of manager I want us to have in League Two. I certainly want us to compete for promotion. There have been plenty of successful rookies at L2 level to take their teams up.
2004/05:
1st: Yeovil Town (Gary Johnson: had been in the YTFC job 4 years when promoted)
2nd: Scuthorpe United (Brian Laws: had been in the SCFC job 7 years when promoted)
3rd: Swansea City (Kenny Jackett: Experienced coach yet still a relatively rookie manager)
P-O: Southend United (Steve Tilson: Appointed in 2003 as a rookie)
2005/06:
1st: Carlisle United (Paul Simpson: 2nd job, still new to management)
2nd: Northampton Town (Colin Calderwood: Appointed as a rookie)
3rd: Leyton Orient (Martin Ling: Appointed as a rookie)
P-O: Cheltenham Town (John Ward: Experienced)
2006/07
1st: Richard Money (Experienced)
2nd: Hartlepool United (Danny Wilson: Experienced)
3rd: Swindon Town (Paul Sturrock: Experienced/Dennis Wise helped build the squad)
P-O: Bristol Rovers (Paul Trollope: Appointed as a rookie)
2007/08
1st: Franchise: (Paul Ince: Relative rookie)
2nd: Peterborough United (Darren Ferguson: Rookie)
3rd: Hereford United (Graham Turner: Over a decade as manager of Hereford)
P-O: Stockport County (Jim Gannon: Relatively new to management)
2008/09:
1st: Brentford (Andy Scott: Rookie)
2nd: Exeter City (Paul Tisdale: Rookie)
3rd: Wycombe Wanderers (Peter Taylor: Experienced)
P-O: Gillingham (Mark Stimson: No Football League experience as manager prior to GFC)
2009/10:
1st: Notts County (Multiple managers)
2nd: Bournemouth (Eddie Howe: Appointed as a rookie)
3rd: Rochdale (Keith Hill: Appointed as a rookie)
P-O: Dagenham & Redbridge (John Still: Experience, had been with D&R 5 years or so)
2010/11:
1st: Chesterfield (John Sheridan: Decent experience)
2nd: Bury (Experienced Alan Knill did the work, rookie Richie Barker finished)
3rd: Wycombe Wanderers (Gary Waddock: Decent but relatively limited experience)
A nice piece of analysis, although I'm not sure what it shows....other than no Italian has got a side out of Div 4. About this promotion talk....in all the excitement of new boss talk, we've kind of lost sight of just how poor we ended up this season. Whoever it is, they've a massive job over the summer, getting rid of the unsuitable players and bringing in better replacements. This wont be easy. The first aim for the new man, should be to at least make us a bit competitive in games, by introducing some basic competence in key positions. There's a lot who seem to think that last season's underperformers, will somehow be magicked into a promotion squad....not sure it happens like that. |
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« Reply #217 on: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 10:57:43 » |
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I'm unconvinced about a Director of Football position being created. It's only going to take up more of our salary budget and for what? Wray seems like he's trying to focus on the football more than Fitton anyway but time will tell.
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« Reply #218 on: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 11:00:30 » |
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I put that up to show what kind of manager takes team up.
It doesn't matter if you're English, Italian or Uzbek - a rookie manager is still a rookie manager. I would rank Di Canio as a 'Paul Ince' type of appointment. Big name, little experience, has coaching badges.
You could say that there isn't a "George Burley" in that list. A manager who enjoy relatively high profile success who is slowly falling down the leagues.
For the record, I'm not suggesting that promotion will be given for Swindon. Although, I would say that it isn't unrealistic to state that I wouldn't mind a high table finish if possible!
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« Reply #219 on: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 11:01:58 » |
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I'm unconvinced about a Director of Football position being created. It's only going to take up more of our salary budget and for what? Wray seems like he's trying to focus on the football more than Fitton anyway but time will tell.
D of F is a strange thing....possibly one of the leading men in the field is Nicky Hammond, appointed at a young age. |
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« Reply #220 on: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 11:07:44 » |
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A nice piece of analysis, although I'm not sure what it shows....other than no Italian has got a side out of Div 4.
they're mostly too good to be having anything to do with Div 4...and at least PDC would get the training running on time |
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« Reply #221 on: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 11:49:04 » |
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Isn't Di Matteo technically still employed by WBA and was put on 'gardening leave' and not officially sacked  ? |
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« Reply #222 on: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 12:00:13 » |
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I'm unconvinced about a Director of Football position being created. It's only going to take up more of our salary budget and for what? Wray seems like he's trying to focus on the football more than Fitton anyway but time will tell.
I thought the supposed problem with Fitton was that he did focus on the football? |
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« Reply #223 on: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 12:02:32 » |
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I thought the supposed problem with Fitton was that he did focus on the football?
Good point. Why do we need a DoF then? I think I poorly worded my point, someone who will sign players for football reasons moreover business reasons. |
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« Reply #224 on: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 12:05:45 » |
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Wray has recently clearly said that he wants to appoint someone he can leave to concentrate on purely managing and signing players. Would imagine that rules out a dof
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