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Hard one, this. They’ve won 5 on the trot at home. We still concede in batches at the drop of a hat. Another away sell out.

Got a few close to returning according to Flynn - Brewitt, Cain, RHM, Clayton back on the grass.

Michael Flynn on potential recall:

I have planned for with him and I have planned for without him. It has been on the forefront of my mind for month.

*on the possibility of a permanent deal* It will depend on what they are asking for. He probably would have been cheaper in the summer than he is now.‘

Strange that whenever recall is mentioned it’s never about Kemp.

Sounds like Young is going back then. Only possibility we keep him is he gets sold and said championship club loan him back to us to further development but I don’t see the point in that. It was fun while it lasted!

‘ I have been planning for a long time and I have plenty of conversations with Clem Morfuni. I don't deal with Anthony Hall that much.’

Anthony Hall will probably start charging Flynn and the coaching team for watching home games.

#freeloading scum

Going by some of our performances recently he could charge some of our players for being spectators too!

Had this conversation with a mate yesterday, who’s the bigger loss from the team at this stage of the season, Doyle to the Wellens side or Young to this side. I think it’s pretty nailed on that Youngs a bigger miss to this squad imo.

I remember I was somewhat slightly more at ease with Doyle being recalled (still not happy) because from memory the team was creating enough chances that alongside Yates (minus the brief recall), I believed even a half decent striker could come in and score enough to get us over the line. Obviously wouldn’t be the same level or numbers as Doyle, we may have bottled the title but that squad had enough within it to still go up automatically.

Very different league positions but how closely does that translate to Young and this squad. Stats will tell you that Young and Kemp are our biggest goal/assist contributors. Does the squad (or let’s be honest just Kemp) produce enough that another striker can slot in where Young is and get a similar haul? I’m not so sure. Not worth thinking about if Kemp goes too.

I think with Doyle going - we had an adequate if not better player (not better finisher) already here in Yates. We could have easily moved him more central and I think he would have contributed as many goals as Doyle did - the knock on being we’d have had to replaced Yates with someone equally as good getting into the channels / behind the defence.


I don’t think we have a direct replacement for Young already here. Austin & RHM are very different strikers. I think they would both get goals but maybe not the same type of goals that Young has been scoring. Even Wakeling hypothetically comi back on loan - I think he’d get goals in this team.
(the above being based on everyone playing in the same team; so Kemp being here after Young goes which he won’t be)

Good points but Austin has missed loads,not all created by Kemp( most by Hutton) so,maybe a glimmer?

Any ideas on what the most popular pre match pub for Town fans will be?

There was one advertising themselves at Wimbledon Park as closest away fan friendly. I'll try and dig it out.

No that it answers the question officer.

Wobbly bob will know

We still rack up a good many chances. A lot of Young’s goals are individual great hits. I’d still prefer to retain Kemp as he’ll continue to create the chances.

I’d really like the club to be in a position where loans are just a good back up - not vital as they are now.

That’s penny pinching for you. Both players could have been bought for peanuts in the summer.

In hindsight, we’d probably have been better off investing the money we spent getting Doyle back in trying to sort a permanent deal for Yates.


That is true, Hutton’s crossing is a good tactic with a strong forward who can make the most of them, would like someone on the left who can provide some sort of threat as well as teams just double up on Hutton as the main threat if not like last season. Provided we don’t lose Hutton as well.

Despite our concerns about Clem I think this is very reassuring.

‘Hi, Clem. It’s Mike Flynn here’

‘Mike, just fuck off will you, you drongo’

I said that at the time with regards to Yates & Doyle.  How feasible that would have been, I don’t know but Yates was better, younger and had much more resale value.

Huttons crossing has been decent. I’d like to see Charlie between the 6 yard box and penalty spot for absolutely all of them though

Last season went to Spoons about a mile from the ground. Loads of Town in there. Just outside Tooting Broadway tube

My London mate suggested Wandsworth as you can follow pub to put & walk to the ground so I'll be doing that.

Yeah im not so reassured.

Flynn is a football man and knows how to deal with the media and fans, regardless of whats going on behind the scenes.

I read on another forum that Plough Lane is a cashless stadium, thought it worth mentioning to those going.

That was just Flynn completely distancing himself from the clusterfuck of an interview on Tuesday, probably under instruction from Clemente.  Remember, Clem has a track record of throwing his CEO under a bus and distancing himself from statements made on his behalf.

Fully expect Clem to continue that path once he lands at Heathrow.  Now Mr Hall has expertly set himself up as the next executive scapegoat, I can guarantee that most things that go wrong moving forward (an there is likely to be lots let's face it) will be squarly placed on Mr Hall's lap, until he bails..  it's not like there isn't a history of that over the past 2.5 years is there..

Follow the Wandle Trail all the way. The Ship is a riverside pub in Wandsworth, good place to begin.

The Woodman was the pub advertising, looks like you have suggestions  though

Wombles 1 Swindon 2 att:8,320 (1,245 Town)

Started off in the Tooting spoons last time.
The memory is clouded after that.
It was a long day, but there are plenty of good pubs catering for all tastes in the area & for those where the company of fellow travellers is not a priority.

Just reading the piece in the Guardian about Johnson wearing a Grimsby Town hat and it runs thus: 'Other prime ministers have happily declared or hinted who their team is ...Theresa May is thought to' support ' AFC Wimbledon'. COYR.

Is Corbyn Town? Considering he is from Chippenham.

He supports the Arse - they play in his constituency where he lives so technically his local side

Wimbledon Park for us and The Woodman (shite service last time).

Turn Right outside tube (Arthur Road)
Right again (Durnsford Road)
Few mins on the RHS.
15 min walk to ground.

Freeloading Scum on Tour ⚽️

Noticed Corbyn’s brother was debunking the causes of climate change in the week.

Cool - I think that's what he said, will look back on the messages.

Piers IMHO is a charlatan.

Is he rich? Could make an offer for us and join the very long list of charlatans at Swindon.

Maybe we should have asked the band The Charlatans to play at those gigs.

Got an U17 ticket for tomorrow if anyone needs a ticket.
Don't want anything for it but don't want it to go to waste, the boy is poorly so can't attend.
Will be happy to meet up somewhere tomorrow to hand it over.

Looking forward to it. Away days in the capital always decent. Fuck Anthony Hall and Clem Morfuni.

Up the 9 free game freeloading scum entertaining sustainable reds.

This 100% loud and proud freeloading scum ⚽️.

Few chants tomorrow lads. Get creative.

1-0 to the freeloaders,  repeat.
Free, free, freeloaders.

Freeloading Scumbags, we know what we are

We’re here - and we paid full price!

We are Clem’s Freeloading Army

We all agree, Anthony Hall is a wanker.

Oh when the reds
(Oh when the reds)
Come free loading
(Come free loading)
Oh when the reds come free loading

Let me tell you how it will be
There's one for you, nineteen for me
'Cause I'm a shit owner
Yeah, I'm a shit owner

Should five percent appear too small
Be thankful I don't take it all
'Cause I'm a shit owner
Yeah, I'm a shit owner

Don't ask me what I want it for
(Ah, ah, Mr. Morfuni)
If you don't want to pay some more
(Ah, ah, Mr. Hall)

We know what we are, we know what we are,
Free loading bastards we know what we are.

From my sofa....

My firestick is free, my firestick is free, i dont pay nothing, i freeload with glee

I work all night, I work all day to pay the bills, I have to pay
Ain't it sad?
And still there never seems to be a single penny left for me
That's too bad
In my dreams, I have a plan If I got me a wealthy fan
I wouldn't have to work at all
I'd fool around and play football
Money, money, money
Must be funny
In a town fans world
Money, money, money Always sunny
In Australia
Oh-oh-oh-oh
All the things I could do
If I had a little money
It's a rich town fans world
It's a rich town fans world
A fan like that is hard to find
But I can't get freeloaders off my mind
Ain't it sad?
And if he happens to be free
I bet he buys a season ticket from me
That's too bad
So I must leave, I'll have to go
To Pakistan or Brisbane
And blag some money all the same
My life will never be the same
Money, money, money
Must be funny
In a town fans world
Money, money, money
Always sunny
In a town fans world
Oh-oh-oh-oh
All the things I could do
Without selling cheap tickets to you
It's a town fans world
Money, money, money
Must be funny
In a town fans world
Money, money, money
Always sunny
In a town fans world
Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh
All the things I could do
If I had a little money
It's a town fans world
It's a town fans world

Nice and simple. A variant might be

We got in cut price, we got in cut price
Not a penny to the criminals wives

Good effort!

Chris and Hollie’s Barmy Army!

Pre match the problem with incompetence is its inability to recognise itself in The Willow Walk.

Going to be fun on here today I see.
Hope we win.
For those watching from afar, behave yourselves on the sofa & don't upset the nearest & dearest.

My ST works out at £14.40 per game or so.
Used to be pushing £16 in years gone by.

More than happy to freeload.

All of the off the field stuff is fermenting away in a separate compartment of the trusty brain cell.
I'll take my cue from the Trust when or if it comes to a call for mass protest, boycott or gluing ourselves to the goal posts.
They should still be best placed to gauge when enough is enough.

Initial aim of every season is to ensure survival first.
Not quite there yet.

Like the look of their striker Al Hamadi.
A rate of 1 in 2 is pretty good.
Family fled a warzone to settle in err Toxteth apparently.

Hopefully the small but still flawed green shoots of recovery on the pitch can continue.

The ongoing 60th birthday celebrations will also be continuing.  :beers:

He only lived in 'Nam for 6 years or so as he was born there, moved to London by the age of 7, I doubt he has any affiliation to the Chippenese people.

Bath crimbo market today.

I fear a loss but be happy with a draw. A win would make my week.

As for the off field stuff, I’ll try to zone out.

Chippense? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Probably misspelled Chimpanzee

I am surprised you guys have never heard of Chippenese, its a term lots of locals call themselves from Chippenham.

I’m Corshameze - Chips and Ham can fuck off!

Third World Train service.
Was told nobody could board the train as it was full and would have to wait another hour.

Squeezed on to the anger of the guard.
He asked if my journey was an emergency?
Do you honestly think I would say no.


Clem running the trains now.

Isambard Clemdom Brunel

Clemtern Railways.

.

the trains are fucking fucked.

waiting for another train to arrive so they can ship people off


... and 20 minutes later we are off

Games are beginning to be called off. Mansfield v Franchise off, Bradford v Salford pitch inspection

I prefer Corshameze to Corshamite

Sutton called off aswell

difficult one, even on the song front:

I'm turning corshameze,
I think I'm turning corshameze,
I really think so ..


oooooooh oooooooh,
the corshamites...

you fucking dare wombles . great uncle Bulgaria will be going home in a Merton ambulance

Looks likely FGR v Wrexham is going to be off too

All waterlogged pitches or what?

Supposed to be dry and mildly windy the rest of the day in Womble land.

Just walked into the market in Stroud. A rare occasion when I want FGR to win. It's a high water table up there. Could well be called off. No sign of a Wrexham invasion an hour ago or so. Back to Theresa May supporting Wimbledon - I see her recent book is call 'Abuse of Power' ... serendipitous ...

FGR - off

In the Moons Spoons. Fair few Town!

I'm still in JJ Moons.
Heading towards oblivion.

Best way to watch us!
Watch the walls it's very narrow!🙂

Where is JJ Moons?

Spoons right outside Tooting Broadway tube

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GA6UvukXAAA8c_i?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)

Poor bench again. Thought we may have had some returnees

Hart and Brown on the bench ready to come on at 4-0 up again...

Yeah, I’m looking forward to that

Be buzzing when we have an owner that don't get one of their mates kids in the squad. Been a permanent fixture of the last ten years or so with some short breaks.

Harsh.















But







Fair.

Hart is basically the second coming of Curran on evidence to date. Having been at Accrington you’ll struggle to see another player so far out of his depth as he was for the 10 minutes he was on the pitch.

Any update on the ground redevelopment Stuart now that you’ve replaced Rob :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em0PzpoEAeM&pp=ygUrcm9iIGFuZ3VzIHN3aW5kb24gZ293biBncm91bmQgcmVkZXZlbG9wbWVudA%3D%3D

To be fair, Hart is 17. People who watch the academy seem to think he's there on merit. The problem is he's our 5th CB in a system with three CBs...

I struggle to be convinced, when you listen to some of the rumours with regards to his Dads involvement in the club it’s difficult not see a Curran scenario all over again.

He’s currently number 4, but should be behind Brewitt & Clayton (who would both be in front of Minturn) and therefore nowhere near the first team for another season or two

And Bennnnnn Ward, who I'd forgotten existed entirely.

Don't forget Harry Agombar or whatever his name was.

For the record Wimbledon 2 Swindon 3 as the prediction league won't let me play

…thats with Swindon 3-0 up in the 95th minute, right?

Miles behind the feed - again. Players not even out yet!

ifollow being as shit as ever recently. pausing every 5 to 10 seconds.

Dons pressing us very high at the moment.

Not on actual iFollow it isnt mate, must be your IPTV supplier.

Mines not even kicked off.

Yeah that's what I meant.

Too many people on these services at 3pm on a Saturday now for it to work like it used to.

Dokes got away with that, looked like a pen to me.

I have 3 feeds on my IPTV - the match feed was doing that for me, so I switched to the Wimbledon feed and it's better - not sure if your IPTV is the same menu type as mine though

If not stonewall, that was at very least some temporary fencing

FBT heads off the line.

0-1 silly goal.

1-0

Bloody freeloaders

We just cant defend low crosses.

Minturns fault there I am afraid.

Player down with a head injury for a long time there. Deserved in the run of play but don't think that should have played on.

Very shoddy at the back thus far

Yay.

I would contend we just can’t defend!

I might just stick a different game on.

TBH we could be 3 down already the penalty and the header off the line by FBT before the goal.

Wimbledon striker getting treated for a bloodied head and FBT down holding his head when the ball goes in.
Not sure it would have altered the goal but I think they'll feel aggrieved at that goal.

(was 100% a penno beforehand though)

That was never a legit penalty claim.

I cant stand opposition commentary teams that cheer when they score, it’s so fucking amateur!

We just seem to have carried on from the last 10 against Stanley.

Groundhog day

FBT booked.

This is very naive from FBT, especially as captain

FBT really on the edge here, not happy at all

Dons playing very route 1 stuff.

Is he banned now

Groundhog day

Young down holding his foot in pain now.

No, amnesty last week. 10 for a suspension now.

Our side seem very cross with the ref.

The thinnest of gruel in this first 15

Wimbledon just seem far more up for todays game than we are at the moment, we are offering nothing.

I wish we played with the impetus and enthusiasm that Wimbledon are playing with.

Have we had a pay day since the Accrington game?

Minturn with another really sloppy pass straight to them putting us under pressure.

I remember someone on here saying that Minturn reminded them of a raw Nathan Thompson, and I can see it. So many sloppy passes, in between the good stuff that he does

Absolutely.

We are playing like hot shit

Difference between Thompson and Minturn is Thompson learned the game at right back before moving inside. Mistakes are so much more costly in the middle.

Fucking hell, we're hopeless.

Dokes fuck up bring the ball out this time, our entire defence looks poor so far today.

Dons hit the post.

Should have been another goal TBH, poor miss by them.

Jesus! This is awful!

I'd take a 1 0 loss right now if it was on offer, this looks like it could get really messy.

Fucking hell Town, this is dreadful to watch. Want to say Wimbledon have done a job on us, but we’ve done a job on ourselves really. Masters of our own demise

Is Hutton playing…?! Dokes is having a stinker

Hutton's been our best defender so far... in that he hasn't actively set up chances for the other team!

25 minutes of absolute dross!

Good tactical injury by Mahoney

Have we even had a shot yet?

Save by Mahoney again.

Have we been on their half on the attack yet?

Kokolo for me our best defender as hes the only one who hasnt (so far) fucked up anything.

To be fair they have closed us down well and we just haven’t coped at all with it

As bad as our defence have been our midfield have just been anonymous which doesn't help at all

Great defending by Kokolo there.

Kemp shoots and its saved and we win a corner.

We had a shot!

Why are we playing long? We’ve not won a header in 30 mins!

We did a shot!

Corrected!

It gets the ball as far from our defence as possible?

I think a lot of us have said before. But this is a huge problem in the team. Khan for example has 2 poor games for every good one.

Because they are pressing us high. So we are trying to push them back so we can return to our dangerous pass around the back game!

The note to Dokes:
be less shit pls

I think Khan is nearer 1 good game out of every 2 but I get what you mean, we are often overrun in midfield far too easily.

Austin on for Minturn.

Formation change then.

Austin coming on for Minturn to strengthen the defence. It does feel like an Austin game.

are we going diamond midfield now?

Is this the first time in a league game we have set up 442 under Flynn?

Kemp pushed off the ball blatantly but the ref doesnt give it.

Kemp finds Young on the break but his volley goes high and wide but a difficult chance.

Not a sympathetic cross from Kemp there...

Kemp presses them for a corner.

Much better since the change

Some bright news on a shit day so far, the piss stains are 2-0 down at Peterborough

Note they have Lemonade, Ham-aday and Curry in their team. No wonder they appear hungry!

Khan shoots from distance well wide.

8 mins added time.

I’m sure that should have been a corner?

Ref not giving us any decision, a proper homer so far, he has ignored several fouls on our players but pulls us up for every little thing.

McEachran savagely felled in the middle and the ref plays on.

Really dislike the football advantage law where if you still have the ball no matter where you don't get a free kick centrally... One thing that rugby union does much better.

Unbelievable that wasn’t a yellow

Young tries a long shot after a poor clearance by the keeper but its a fairly easy save in the end.

Absolutely, deserved a yellow at least. Poor reffing.

I was confident he'd come back and book him, was definitely worth it

should be 3-0 down really.

but we did improve after the change. aAnd it's only 1-0 so all to play for

HT 0-1

Got better after the sub.

HT. 33 abject minutes followed by 20 creditable ones. Tactical change has really improved things so far, fair play for Flynn for changing it quickly.

Too many passengers today.

Should be 3 or 4 nil down.

The fact we are only 1-0 down means we still have a chance. But the fact that our midfield is absent means it’s unlikely.

Well. Here and for the first 35 minutes we did absolutely nothing of note.Nothing. Zero.
But the last 15 we've been far the better team. Absolute sitter missed by Young from literally our first decent move. For me Kemp and Kinsella far too easily outmuscled in the middle. UGM our stand out player for me and the substitution seems to have given us impetus. I think we can win this

Credit Flynn for the change but why did we simply not turn up?

Kinsella looked like the only one hustling, albeit with zero effect, to begin with.

Dokes and FBT as a CB combo chills my blood but we are where we are....

Oddly the XG for our game is 0.75 to 0.29.
It feels like there’s should be higher than that

Awful first 30. Everyone on at the defence buts it’s the anonymous midfield that’s the problem.

Where do we think Brewitt is off too? Not involved again?

Better after the change. Still not great.
Haven’t heard a single freeloader chant from the away end which is disappointing

We could well be 3-0 down but after the sub I think all the passengers have bucked up their ideas and look comfortbale that we could grab a draw if we start creating a little more.

That was a chalk and cheese first half, first 30 was as bad as we have played this season, but since then its been ok.

The ref is giving us absolutely nothing though and thats an uphill battle.

Brewitt has tendonitis.

Not sure why everyone thinks we could / should be 3/4-0 down.

They got their goal and hit the post but for all their attacking play and our sloppy defending I don’t think they’ve had enough clear cut chances to be 4 goals up.

Think people are adding in the pen as well. But agree they should have done more in the opening half hour with their dominance.

Does he?
…or is there a deal in place to sell in January and we don’t want him injured?

Never a pen

They had a great penalty shout turned down, FBT headed a shot off the line after Mohoney was well beaten and they hit the post when it looked easier to score. Thats the 3 clear cut chances that should really have been goals IMO.

Well is there?  Or are you just throwing out a hook and making shit up?

I don’t know.
That’s why I posed it as a question hence the question mark at end.

As did i.  just stirring the pot then..

Mooneyraker has put a £50 bid in for Brewitt to act as a butler in the buff at his Christmas dinner, being rested for that.

£100 if Nacho comes too.

Oh,there have been a few

If asking a question is stirring the pot, then yes….

Seems to an extended half time

Yeah, Colchester are in the 57th minute in their game

Kemp with a great chance off the post.

Tidy play from Austin there in the buildup

off the post, should only be 4-1 down now!

Glad that is confirmed then..

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Hoping Santa puts an Alice band in my stocking!

I love the guy but he’s not prime Thiago Silva. This feels a stretch.

Mahoney with a low save.

Need to take Minturn off again! Back as it was in the first 30 mins!

Young is having one of his occasional invisible man games sadly.

Great goal unfortunately

2-0

0-2 cracker by them from distance.

Some placement that.

Class strike. Game over. Oh well

Swindon back three in a reasonable shape, but the midfield literally stood about in no man's land. Miserable.

great strike, no midfield. Austin the closest player to the scorer. SIGH

Austin the only one alive to the danger from the free kick. Everyone else fast asleep.

Absolutely fucking dire!

Austin should have scored.

Sleeping at the free kick, even though it’s a great strike

If only we had some players on the bench!

Was it a penalty…? Looked it

Was it handball?

The replay showed arm to ball or visa versa but not sure it was deliberate. Some give it some down at this level.

Just seen the replay - hand away from body stopped the ball. So, yes

Dire fucking dire clem out everyone out. :suicide:

Genesini on for one of anyone other than Kokolo and Austin methinks!

Not sure he'd prosper in goal to be fair.

Div - Technically we do!

Ref hasn’t given us much but we’ve been largely shite.

How many Hutton crosses today…? 1? 2?

Bagill is such a twat to play against (or even to be an opposing fan). He's constantly niggling, just pushed Khan over.

can we sign him please?

Time for Brown and Hart to come on I recon, with the game now probably beyond us.

We lack ‘orrible bastards. Have since the General.

Speaking of which - Bagill is down holding his leggy, ref stops play.

FBT down when they score, play on lads. He's holding his head? Nightmare for you lot

Game over, season over. Got my Boxing Day ticket, but that's my last input until changes happen.
To be honest, I can see the season getting even worse.

Shade! Our saviour!!

10 days off to prepare and rejuvenate the players and they still can’t get organised or up for it😡

Nice cross from Kokolo very nearly met by Austin.

Have we won a second ball all game?

Behind the scenes there’s plenty of horrible bastards!

I don't know whether it is Ifollow, but looks pretty dim there considering the floodlights are on.  Our floodlights are shit, but brighter than how it looks there..

Dimwits for sure

Adam Hart in DM. Bringing the muscle. Darren Bullock 2.0

Irrational maybe but I blame Anthony Hall for this defeat. Completely killed any positive vibes.

Blimey, the lesser spotted Brooklyn Genesini.

These Wimbledon commentators really are a pair of cunts

Is it me or is it whenever we seem to have an extended break we always play poorly in the next game ?

At least a bumper Boxing Day crowd is a good opportunity to vent for us.

3-0

0-3

I don't think the break makes any difference, we've been poor since our first defeat.

May as well give the Taffs the whole ground as we won’t have anything to play for by then.

Fucking pathetic  :clap:

I mentioned this earlier, really irritating, celebrating when they score,
Supposed to be impartial the amateur fucks

Nice to be able to bring on a guy with 350+ league apps, isn't it?

Just awful.

Game over. Season over. Clem over, if there’s any justice. Not a penny more from me.

Damage limitation time.

Another shambolic away performance

Too late for that damage already done🤣

Not sure we are capable of damage limitation!

No ST renewal or more money from me till Clems gone

McEachran as weak as piss today. Abject.

How the fuck are we still 9th?  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Probably doesn’t help that the right half of our defence are defenders who are better at attacking than defending and the left half is a LB playing CB and someone who’s barely played this year

Always an issue for him. So, so weak in midfield

Hutton CB holy fuck

Another no Swindon man of the match survey coming up…….

Josh Davison coming on. It’s going to get worse, isn’t it?

I'm not just talking this season....

Austin or Kokolo have been ok.

8 wins in 26 from Flynn. #competitive

A lesser spotted Genesini!

Flynn  can do one aswell poor very poor.

Just add them two then :D

Nope, been a yard off it all game. Looked knackered and stunned

Wimbledon everything we are not. Literally the exact opposite of us.

How the fuck can we be knackered🤔

They are what I would like us to be, we dont need the playing out from the back, we want footballers who tackle and score and dont concede.

A solid league 2 team, thats all we really want.

But they have a lot bigger budget than us and a way bigger squad too.

Supermarine have a bigger budget than us.

Trying to play champagne football on a horses piss budget.

4-0

0-4

Sigh.

Mahoney speaking for the fans there

Flynn out. There. I’ve said it.

Wouldn’t surprise me if Flynn walked soon there’s only so much he can take.

He's just not the problem though is he? Could he be more pragmatic? Sure, but it's not going to turn us into a good team, it just means fewer really good days, fewer really bad days and a lot more average ones.

Pretty much an Aldershot game. 7 goals conceded in 100 minutes with none scored.

If you add Accrington

He consistently fails to get the team “up for it”. He’s clearly not capable of motivating.

We look like a Sunday League team that’s been on the piss. A complete shambles in defence. 🤬

Mahoney rightly getting angry at the defence which is piss weak.

That was fucking abysmal.
Can't wait for the 4hour journey home.

FT 0-4.

Shambolic.

Value for money, says Anthony Hall.

Assuming he managed to find his way to Plough Lane, I hope there were some songs for the board.

I’ve never known a season where conceding 3 or 4 was quite normal. Didn’t even seem this bad in the Premier League. Silver linings that Oxford’s new manager is doing the business.

Barrow at home next week how uninspiring :D

Crowd down to the 7ks....or lower?

Reported crowd or actual crowd? Some of the 8ks recently have looked suspiciously sub 7.

And this sums up our squad really.

Someone hoping for excuses could well point to the fact we finished the game with three wing backs and a full back playing as our back four, that we lost one centre half and had to switch out another because the system was fucking us up.

But......

The players we took off were a novice centre back who is prone to the odd fuck-up and gets drawn into attacking balls he shouldn't, and a left back.

The squad simply isn't up to standard and Flynn is continuing to play roulette, so we should expect just as many days in the black as we get in the red.

At least we know who to blame now though - you fucking freeloading season ticket holders.  We'd have a competitive budget if it wasn't for you lot shelling out a few hundred quid at the start of every season.

Because season ticket holders are counted for every game, so we will never go below that number.

I get that. For once, the suspicion wasn’t directed at the board, just the number.

Wimbledon can bring on Pearce, Pell, Davison and what have we got?

Cheers Clem you bellend now just fuck off- if you don’t urge no- one to renew their ST starve him out

You may be right as Barrow will only bring around 70 depends if any over 18’s sneak on on a child’s season ticket :eek:

Will be giving that a miss, plus the guaranteed home defeat to FGR.

If Clem is still here end of season, he can gladly keep my 9 free games

Can’t see us getting anything away at Tranmere or Wrexham at home.

Flynn:
- Very poor defensively and Flynn didn't mean defenders
- We have to improve
- Will be looking to do that
- Wont look to change style
- Its sense of danger that is the problem
- Lazy loose passes in centre of pitch
- Second goal, no one spotted the danger
- First goal shouldnt have counted as 2 players down with head injuries
- We need to be better and go on a mini run again
- Thought we were awful to start with. Worst all season
- Bad, bad day at the office
- Couple of them need a good strong look in the mirror
- You can show players, but if they consistently dont do what they are shown then you have to change them
- Knew Al Hamedi would play the way we did. We wanted someone to stick with him
- FBT did ok. The others not so much
- Austin brought leadership.
- There were moments where there were positives. But we werent good enough
- We know what we are dealing with on what Flynn can spend. We might need a midfielder who reads the game when we are out of possession
- Competition is healthy.
- Wont make excuses, but that wont get Flynn extra players
- Lets hope this hurts the players and they work hard to put it right
- They didnt not run or try. There were sloppy passes. It was a careless performance
- Hoping to have 2 or 3 players back next week

Sigh

Nah, why would you change the style of play that sees us concede stupid goals every fucking week? Piss off.

Fjortoft:
- Think Flynn sees it the same that we do
- But Fjortoft disagrees with the style not changing. We knew Wimbledon wouldn't let us play this way
- Sensing danger: As players, you are asked to carry out instruction. The manager relies on players to make good decisions. Today, everything was niaive. If playing out from the back is not working, then change it!
- Maybe there has to be a greater balance in the way they play (not just expoansive stuff)
- Against an experienced Wimbledon side, it would have been better to be solid rather than expansive
- Wimbledon on the day were a lot better. Their squad depth was greater. Secondly, the type of players they have was different. They had experience and pragmatism.
- We were lacking in experience. We didn't see how the game was going and change our approach to make sure we got a foothold

He was saying that the problem wasn't the style of play, it was down to the players not anticipating problems or danger when out of possession. So, he was talking about not abandoning attacking play, rather than commenting on 'tippy-tappy' football or playing out from the back (which I think you and Moonraker are commenting on).

utter shit shit most of the match. done physically and off it technically. 4-0 is flattering.

if the goal had gone in after the break then maybe, but I've no complaints at the score

Nah

same old drivel fuck off fed up with the excuses now.

What are you seeing that says this is the man to take us forwards?

Tactically inept, fails to motivate the squad, chippy with journalists.

We got lucky with Kemp and Young this year. Without them there is nothing.

Now you know why Flynn was given an extension to his contract. Not a reward for doing a fantastic job. More a sop to stop him walking.

I credit Flynn with trying to change it on 30 with the only real option we had.

didn't work, obvs, but there's so little in available options.

To be fair,Kemp and Kinsella no different today

To the guy who turned around to a supporter who was swearing sayingth F**king shut up I have a 6 year old with me.  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Hang on a minute. Davison? The player many people(maybe not you I concede) thought was absolutely useless and cost us the play offs?

Rubbish again.
No more cash from me. Will go to the games to ensure I get maximum benefit from my freeloader S T but spend nowt on merch etc.. I usually get a coffee from the disability kiosk but I guess they give some of the proceeds to the con men? Anybody know?

To be fair it did work for 15 minutes!🙂

Manager is irrelevant until we sort other shit out.

Calls to sack them, preferably.

In two minds whether to go Boxing Day just to try and get something going or sack it off for good until Clem goes.

A few freeloading bastard songs in the pub, a few faint in the ground.
It’s turning.

That’s fair.

Some fans by me getting really wound up about Wimbledon subs warming up in front of us,complaining they couldn't see! Doing us a favour I thought!

Whatever tactics you are using Flynn, you need to do the exact opposite. Will be there to vent on Boxing Day, then football can fuck off.

Come on the general consensus on Davison was that he was an alright back up but if we seriously want to get out of this league we should probably aim higher.

Nothing about what he said contradicts what the general consensus was before. 

He’d walk into our squad now. Ideal L2 bench option/3rd striker for a team shooting for the play offs.

Yeah, absolutely. Offers something a bit different when chasing a game or even have to hold it up holding on.

I was one who said Davison wasn't good enough to be our primary striker if we wanted to get promoted in the top three.  I stand by it - Wimbledon had him on the bench.  I wouldn't knock having him as an option player, but he is not going to be your top striker.  I'd swap him for Adeloye for example.  Our primary problems are the midfield three, back three and wide players, none of whom are fit for purpose when it comes to defending and only a couple can be relied upon going the other way with regularity.

Bemused by the suggestion we won’t change approach. We’ve conceded 7 goals without response in the last 100 minutes of league football to the juggernauts that are Accrington and Wimbledon.

well, we know who started the pub one don't we 😁

we were to the far right of the ground looking at the pitch. our section sang it loud!

incidentally I admire Wimbledon for the way they came back from being shafted, but at a new ground it's the right size but fucking shit

We're averaging more than 3 goals a game conceded since Flynn's contract extension, if my maths holds. 25 in 8 games.

Abject

If we’re lucky we may concede 100 goals in a season again :D

Three goals a game in a 46 game season is 138!

I feel your pain. Going to Bath today was a mistake. Coming back was a bonus. Except Mrs. Fainted on the train…She’s ok. But 45 minutes stood on the train plus the journey time. Arrived 45 late. Walking around aimlessly jostled by a seething mass of humanity. A day I’ll never see again, a bit like going to Wimbledon.

Have to allow for the odd freak result when we don’t concede :)

I hope she is OK Mate.
Trains this Morning were packed and not letting people on.

Hearing Stroud Trains tonight from Swindon cancelled.
Hope our Stroud based fans get back home.

At least we now know what it takes for Genesini to get a game

don't forget to put in your delay refund claims on the trains

And the freak results when….

We live in hope :badmood:

The bath rugby hoards added to the over crowding. DNA said the same as he came up from Pompey and met us. But, thanks, yeah the Doris is fine. Excited at getting home without to much Agro unlike the journey out 🙁

 Live in denial more like. 😀

I think the realism is hitting home😒

Probably Jim.

One point on Flynn. As we understand it, he has the coaching structure in place that he wanted. No one is saying that he's been stitched up there.

Whatever one thinks of the calibre of our players or the number of bodies we have in the building, it should be within the gift of a good coaching unit to improve them.

That is categorically not happening. Everyone is going backwards, and fast. (Edit - I'll give you Young...)

Similarly, you should be able to coach basic defensive organisation. That is not happening. Week after week we are shambolic and all over the place.

Clearly we know Morfuni and his cronies are the root cause, but Flynn should not get a free pass on the above.

Will read back, as a mdt after a heavy defeat is always cathartic.

Bit of a nothing performance albeit with a flattering scoreline.
Not much point in hammering the players & management for that, although they should step up & own it from a
purely professional standpoint. Ultimate fault lies elsewhere.

Anyway, for reference severe delays on the Bakerloo line will always trump the forlorn hope of a Circle line train from Victoria as an alternative. Years of experience & still lesson not learnt.

Still, good fun to cajole those running to even greater efforts for the eventual 20:48 that was still down as preparing 15 minutes after scheduled departure time.

Managed to get a seat after brisk walking pace thanks.

Great day out, but as more often than not, spoilt by the bit in between.
The man annoyance will be missing out on a Sammy's Special as they shut up shop at 10.
The keeebab aficionados of the seething metropolis will know what I mean.

The truth & bollocks thread will take some stick in the upcoming week no doubt.

Oh, and anyone wearing a jumper depicting a reindeer is a cunt no matter the time of year.

Our last 8 away league games....

P8  W1  D2   L5  F11  A20
Points 5 out of 24
Conceding 2.5 goals per game.

Looking at next weekend,  Barrow have won 3 away games in a row, including scoring 3 goals in the last 10 mins at Col Utd. Bollocks to spending £27 on that next week. Too many low points with this club/squad.

57 goals conceded so far this season in all comps

On course to beat the 93/94 record!

I’m usually one to move on from defeats fairly quickly but that was tough today.

Utterly gutless. Under equipped on the field, stagnant off of it - a decaying ground in desperate need of regeneration, a boardroom of chancers and not a pot to piss in. Realistically, where on earth do we go from here? A top half finish once we lose Kemp and Young in January would be a miracle.

Fair play to Wimbledon - they done a job on us and should have been out of sight by half time. We were never really in the game and Flynn’s assessment of it being our worst performance of the season was spot on.

A nightmare on the trains to top it off!

I am in alignment with this.

I’ve been on the piss in Bath. Found some Fullers ESB - fantastic.

Football - at least STFC football - can fuck right off. Tossers.

I hope your journey if by train was better than ours was.

Went on the bus. Delayed going in as a tree came down and some bozo drove into it.

Coming back was an experience, Got to love pissed up Brits just having a laugh.

He wasn't happy

https://twitter.com/LookSportsMedia/status/1733612703598489835?t=-X5peNycBJ14VLnYiiB6sg&s=19

Having seen the goals who can blame him.

So it was UGM that he was berating in that clip (and rightly so as he was having a stinker). He made mention of wanting someone to watch Al Hamedy, but they didn’t do it. So I guess it was UGM

Minturn wasn’t it and hauled off soon after.

I also thought UGM was the one getting the bollocking, but re-watching Minturn’s limp effort of a tackle for the opener it may well have been him!

Minturn walks off and that seems the point at which Flynn really goes irate. With the substitution soon after I think Minturn is on the naughty step.

Don’t know why the reactions to that tweet are so pro Flynn. Smacks of a man who’s lost control and is out of ideas. It’s giving John Sheridan

.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5hxZBw2edY

It could & should have been all of them.
All 3 CBs were absolutely garbage for those first 30 minutes. Collectively it was right up there with that horrendous Heywood, Reeves & Viveash back 3 performance away at Chesterfield in ‘03.

The problem Flynn has is he cant drop them. no replacements whatsoever.

I imagine if he could he would drop them immediately but they will be there next week.

 that was a painful afternoon.  oh well,  nearly Christmas

I didn’t mind it personally, we all know the real issues run a lot deeper than the squad and Flynn but some of those players need a bollocking like that, budget is shit but a shit budget doesn’t make these players consistently make the same mistakes.

The fact that all three CBs have some MoM votes and two have more than Austin leaves me questioning whether I watched the same game or know anything about football.

Maybe I don't know anything about it either but maybe it's because the defenders were the only ones who were involved in the game as the entire midfield was non existent and Jake Young fluffed the only line he had. As an attacking force we were nowhere so don't know how any midfielder or striker would get votes to be honest. I thought Austin was poor individually,the change in personell briefly brought us into the game but for 10-15 minutes only. Therefore as I thought UGM was marginally our best defender I voted for him.Just my opinion

Unless Brewitt and Clayton are back. Hopefully at least one of them will be.

I agree,berating a young player like that in full view of 8000 people is not good management in my book

I think FBT (the worst of the bunch for that 30mins imo) at least got marginally better. As did Dokes.
Obviously Minturn wasn’t given that same opportunity.

None of them were MotM worthy.

Good post.

Flynn is a twat who is lucky he got the job here. He's not going to sort anything come January. Tactically naive and a stubborn cunt too. Definitely will end in tears.

At least he is still trying unlike Morris who downed tools as soon as he realised he was sold a pup.

Morris didn’t even pick up his tools in order to down them.

That's hardly fair, he did pick up his golf clubs on a regular basis.

I'd love to know what happened with Morris. He and Brand seemed like a genuinely exciting appointment.

McDonald, citing that the bigger wage earners were being moved on, was wage-dumped along with Gladwin and Reed.  Presumably, Sandro was paying for Morris and Brand by not putting out a team based on a competitive budget.  Morris was in charge as follows:


31 January 2023 to    1 May 2023    W18     D4    L4    10    22.22% Winning %


But don't worry using Hall's maths, his home games were free to season ticket holders.

I mean more what he was sold vs the reality, why he didn’t just walk rather than dent his early managerial reputation (money?), what happened at training (allegedly he largely golfed!) and so on.

Someone said he was told Foundation Park was part of our training complex.

Next thing you know he’s in the changing rooms at Beversbrook with the Zumba class thinking how the fuck has it come to this!

Need another "On the Sofa" (Backside on the Bacon Slicer) with Sandro to explain that, don't expect to see Hall exuding all the charm of an unflushed toilet, again.  He didn't seem able to distinguish between the OSC and Trust STFC in being miffed lat Monday, it was "On the Sofa" with the OSC not the Trust, you ding-a-ling.  And, under the last owner, we didn't like "You will have to ask Steve Anderson for that", who never appeared on any forum.

Morris has carved out a coaching career by being mates with Frank Lampard.
Absolute fraud without the skills needed to do the jobs he’s done.

We didn't look like the team who had 6 days longer to prepare for sure. A sorry afternoon, left after the third to which the cretin in front uttered 'so much for supporting the team'  :zzz:

For fuck sake.

I was wiser. I stayed to the end to avoid the rush

that's another thing about Wimbledon, a 15 minutes walk around the bloody houses from the away end to get back to the other side of the stadium. Thanks OB 😛

That's the type who applauded on final whistle after a dubbing

Bet it was that Ian Jarmey from the facebook group who could barely contain his shame of sighing when we threw the game in injury time at Wrexham  :D

Re some of the comments above:

Some of us do prefer to stay to the end. 

Support during the 90 (+ time added on)!  Vent hard on the final whistle if appropriate.

Admittedly it's been mainly oppo fans who've benefited from this approach in recent history but anyone suggesting 90' support makes you a happy clapper should first look at themselves.

Stay until the after the unused subs have done their running as far as im concerned- my point was its my choice when i leave... i didnt tell anyone staying they shouldnt be..

40 goals conceded- 28 of them in the 2nd half. That can’t just be coincidence.

Interesting comments about fans behaviour on the last page or so. I personally don't think people should be vilified if they want to leave early, or want to stay and applaud the players. At the end of the day, they've paid their entrance fee (some less than others obvs) so should be free to do more or less what they want.

FWIW I always stay to the end and more often than not applaud the players. I couldn't care less if others don't think that's 'acceptable' or not, I pay my money, I make my choices. (not very often these days mind you)

When your options are so limited on the bench I think that statistic is hugely telling.

Interestingly someone made a throw away comment about Brewitt not being played due to being sold in January. I've also heard rumours that some players are not as injured as it's being made out as they want to get the fuck out of dodge next month. It's all grapevine stuff so no idea if true.

Also, where is RHM? (That comment is completely seperate to my other one btw before anyone jumps on that)

But it’s not just been a recent phenomenon- it’s been the same since the season started.

2 at home v Crewe

4 away v Wrexham

etc

I'm always reluctant to leave early and have done on 2 occasions:-

1) Day of Hillsborough. At Old Trafford when, at half time, it became obvious that any game was irrelevant.

2) Left the Etihad early as needed to get a taxi to get me to a Christmas do.

I was at St Andrews when we were 4-1 down. Was immensely frustrated and inclined to walk. Decided not to and was greatly relieved that I didn't.

some of them even have 9 or more free games to attend to
lets not make them froget that
i think if a season ticket holder leaves early they are actualy giving back to are club its very generous of them maybe hall shoudl think about that if hes getting into a game of spin

Certainly if a Season Ticket holder leaves one of their free games early, their name should be added to a plaque in the toilets of the stand they reside.