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Rumour up north is that neil lennons Celtic preparing a bid to take him back up.
Anyone else heard anything?

Get your cheque book out. You can have him for £2 million + 25% of next sale :D

Plus Ferry, Caddis, and a centre back!

I'll say it again, as I've said it so many times already since about January.

Get him signed up for another 3 years right NOW.

Spot on. We'd still have billy now if we sat down with players and actually offerd contracts, instead of when they run out.

he's bound to attract attention from other clubs.i agree we should give him a deal to at least guaranteee a decent fee if he was to leave

If we want him to extend, we need to get the wallet out. Otherwise he'll run down the contract and move for free. Same goes for Dougie. And its for the same reason that 400k for Greer is good business.

How do we know we're not already is discussions. Neither Fitton or Wilson are mugs, so I have no doubt there are contracts in the pipeline.

I wonder as well what effect it has on a player if we do or don't offer a contract. If we offer one and they turn it down before the season starts does that make it likely the player loses interest? What about if we offer Cuthbert a deal, but not to others what affect does that have on team morale?

Ive heard he's now our second most valuable player.

So no stupid bids please. Some of the stuff their fans said about Cox was unbelievable. Saying we should be grateful to get 200k, he went for 1.8million.

Whilst its not hard concrete proof.

Billy Paynter.

Just because players don't sign extended contracts doesn't mean to say they were never offered.

I'm sure its a balancing act for the board. If we want a player to tie himself down for longer then we'll have to offer him more money etc etc.

Plus at the end of the day its up to the player if he signs or not.

out of all our squad i think cuthbert is the one who could easily step up a level.others are probably up to it too but he is without doubt.
apart from austin(as goal scorers always cost more)he is our prize asset.

Agree wholeheartedly with that Arriba

Agree with that also.

BP was offered a deal which would have made him the highest player at the club.

i was told paynter was offered 6 grand a week to stay here.leeds are supposedly paying him 8 grand

If that's true Arriba then that's more than i would have gone to and i'm i was a big fan of Billy (even before he scored all those goals last season). No-one can accuse the board of lacking ambition.

While we can still compete with teams like Leeds on the pitch (6-0 on aggregate etc) we are unfortunately kidding ourselves if we think we can compete with them off it. Saying that i'm glad we tried.

Not last july he wasnt.

With hindsight it probably would have been a good idea to offer him that contract last July. Who was to know that he would have the best season of his career?

Exactly. Should we have made him our highest paid player last July Dave?

the club were perfectly reasonable with paynter.he stalled and got the bigger move he obviously wanted

Exactly right.

Whilst I wasnt expect 29 goals admittedly, 20 was hardly out of the question 14 and 16 over the last two seasons. No penalties. Plus he'd had two decent seasons for us. I would have offered him a contract last july and I said that at the time.


No, we should have offered him a new deal last July. Off, of the back of a decent season with 16 goals I doubt he would have been demanding as much as he ultimately did. When we did eventually offer him something in October (?) he had been playing very well up to then and thus had a bit more power/leverage to negotiate as he'd scored alot of goals and had some interest from other clubs.

Paynter left because he wanted Championship football we unfortunately couldn't give him that, so good luck to him.

Cuthbert, I thought was a brilliant buy at the beginning of the season, but his form did tail off a bit near the end.

I've heard quotes on here of 450K for Greer, now 1.8m for Cuthbert, if that sort of money is being offered Swindon Town will not hesitate, come on lets be realistic. That would be a huge profit margin for what we paid for him in one season.

It would also make our team alot shitter, piss fans off, lead us to have a worse season, less ticket sales, less time on tv, players less likely to come here.

I think we offered him a deal in January.

Before Austin arrived I dont think many clubs in League 1 would have offered him a deal. He missed an open goal and a penalty at Walsall and was dropped. Dropped in favour of Revell and Hutchinson!

Yes he did very well over the season as a whole. But he has stepped up his game massively second half of this season to get this contract in my opinion.

Perhaps Painter is the type of player that needs an incentive to really up his game, like some players so, and his incentive was he was out of contract the following season so was playing for either a move elsewhere or a new contract and it has obviously paid of for him

Grantsmithitis. A terrible disease.

When asked about Lee Peltier being linked with QPR, Huddersfield's manager Lee Clark came out with:

“If anyone wants to ask about Lee, we’d start talking at £3m plus add-ons, but even then, we’re not interested in selling.”

I'd like to see a similar statement from someone at the club if they're asked about Cuthbert. Then offer him a contract extension.

£3m for Lee Peltier??

Yeah ok then

Well that's the point isn't it  :)

Yeah Dave, cos that's exactly what happened when we sold our last prized asset, Cox, wasn't it?

Oh, what a minute........

That was different.

That team needed a complete re-build this one doesnt.

It's not really different though, is it?

Wilson and Fitton sold Cox and rebuilt the team, leading me to believe that they will do what's right for the club again.

Fitton has said he'd sell if it was right for the club and the player.

If Celtic want Cuthbert back and are willing to pay the asking price, I wouldn't expect anyone to be pissed off.

A bit of faith that the club's in safe hands and they know what they're doing, that I would expect.

Cuthbert was brilliant last year and is one of our most exciting players. However same goes for Greer as it does Cuthbert if silly money is put down we're a club that has to take a very serious look at it. Clearly Wilson/Fitton wouldn't sell both greer and Cuthbert. If you were Wilson and a club came in and offered £1.5M up front with a sell on clause for Scott Cuthbert what would you do? I know its all ifs and maybes but you have to look at our aquisitions last year and see how their stock has risen (Austin, Cuthbert, Douglas) and think that if needed Wilson could bring in players with similar quality if any did leave.

Every player has his price, if DW and Fitton decide the price and sell then I trust them, they havent done an awful lot wrong in transfers so far for the club.

The same cannot be said of the previous regime who accepted any bids.

Celtic may have a buy back clause?

:unsure:

;D in terms of his potential not his Messi like flair... Maybe could've worderd that better!

Nobody said anything about 1.8m for Cuthbert did they?!

We've accepted 800k for Cuthbert from an unnamed Championship team reeves. Said so earlier in the thread.

Off to Leyton Orient I heard

I like his wiki page:

"On 13 July, it was announced that he had sensationally signed for former English Premier League club Swindon Town"

Yep, sensationally!

Cuthbert is the perfect foil for Greer. If we lose him he'll be bloody hard to replace.

So the answer to my question is no...

i would be most surprised if we didnt.
Lenny liked the boy,and will be a perfect replacement for glen loovens (horrendous defender) who looks set to be sent back to cardiff with peter whittingham coming the opposite direction.

Or a bye bye clause for Hutchinson ?

Didnt we sign him on a free though? (I may be wrong here, cant be arsed to look it up!). In which case there wouldnt be any buyback in place as there wouldnt be any agreement with the celts...........

No we paid a fee I believe.

50k

It was probably more than that.

I think it was in the region of £100K, rising to nearer £300K depending on performances/success.

Pretty sure it was 50k.

I thought the Adver reported "a fee believed to be up to £100k" at the time.

I was under the impression it was 100k for Cuthbert and about 50k for OB even though he was out of contract?