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......for our players?  I've lost the thread a bit with this......I know Parkin, still has a year, but I can't remember whether the likes of Howard signed for more than a year.......I recall saying when he was messing around he should be on his bike.....if he did only sign for a year, then its time for him to discover how many prem teams are queueing for his signature.

 What about Hoolit, he's playing like a man wuth another year guaranteed, he was reasonable last season, which was probably when his contract was up.

 I believe Evans is out of contract, and I don't think it matters too much whether he signs or not......he's god enough for this level and may improve, but there are plenty as good out there.

 What about Nicho and Sean O.....I remember Nicho signing some extension or other. Heywood and Duke?
 
 As regards Grant Smith, King said at the AGM that as he wasn't in the team even he could work out that he wouldn't be offered anything, as he wasn't a regular......don't suppose anything changed but at least getting a decent run, should mean he can find another club at this level.

I think i remember fat boy signing for 2 years eventually in the summer, and I'm pretty sure Evans initial 2 year deal expires this summer too.

Smith's contract expires this summer too, signed a 2 year deal when he joined us i think.

I don't know about the other players you mention but regarding Grant Smith, to not offer him another contract IMO is criminal. He is now showing what he is made of and has never really let us down. I would rather Smithy than Howard to be honest. At least he shows some willing and is a versatile player.  That's our Mr King for you I suppose.

O'hanlon must stay aswell, he's by far our best centre half (listening King, that's right, centre half).

The other players I wouldn't be too fussed about losing, they're all replacable.

Well Shaun O was on loan initially, then he signed, if it was only a year, then it'd be up soon, so I'm guessing it was 2.

 We know Turbo is on his way, and Daisy signed in the summer, but for how long?

  Stef signed 2 years in teh summer

   Fallon has probably got another year.

Smith has to be offered at least another year now, he's proved himself to be very capable. I didn't think he was any good before but he's proved me wrong.

O hanlon, Dukey and Smith all have to stay

I've not quite reached that stage yet, but another couple of good perfomances in centre mid and I may be forced to eat a little humble pie on this one.

mmmmmmm pie

Duke only signed for another year, so his contracts up this year unless he gets a new one.

This summer...

Evans - Expired
Book - Expired

Jenkins - 1 year
O'Hanlon - 1 Year
Ifil - 1 year + 1yr option
Reeves - Expired
Heywood - Expired
Duke - Expired
Nicholas - 1 year

Robinson - Expired
Igoe - Expired
Hewlett - Expired
Miglioranzi - 1yr
Smith - Expired
Howard - Expired +1yr option

Parkin - 1yr
Fallon - 1yr
Roberts - 2yrs

Final Year Scholars

Caton
Garrard
Pook
Holgate
Wells
Bulman

Right so the big decisions are on Evans, Duke, Oolit, Igoe Smith and Heywood.

Id definately keep Evans.

Definately say bye to Heywood.

The rest depends on whether they will take a salary drop?

I think we need to get rid of our two worst midfielders and bring in one quality one (we all know exactly the sort of player Im talking about). For me that would be Hewlett and Igoe. Hewlett hasnt the quality to be the main man in a top div 3 team and Igoe has been a passenger for most of this season. Igoe could show us he deserves another contract over the next 3 months, in which case I would ditch Smith instead. Id keep Howard just because I know he has it in him to be top notch but his attitude stinks and has to change. Will he grow up?

Given that Turbo was clearly told he wasn't going to offered anything new, and because he's been a good servant for King, has been given the chance to sort something out early..........leads one to suspect that King would probably want to retain the services of the others, as long as accommodation within the wage bill can be met.

 We don't need to worry about the wage cap, because we're already well within that.

 Of course King told the AGM the GS situation.

Id get rid of the lot I think , its hard to make a judgement when you dont know who's earning what and who else is available for the same wages.

Big one coming up on Parkin as well.  When the current contract expires he's 24 and now entitled to a Bosman freebie at the end of next season.

Ideally we should offer a one year extension with an agreement to sell after the first 12 months.

Of the ones mentioned I can see all six getting offered new deals with Oolit and Duke as usual holding out for longer term deals.

Can't see any likely candidates to be off bar Robinson, most of the final year scholars and possibly Book who may want first team action.  Even old father Reeves seems to have justified another playing contract.

garrard, holgate and bulman are the only scholars i'd keep.

 I'd keep Caton as well.

 Watched him in the reserves today, he's got good pace.

Caton was the only one of our strikers to trouble Luton at the start of the season. Garrard would be first on this list, then Caton a definate second. Both have the quality and the muscle will grow (did anyone say that about Alan 'forever' Young?  :D ).

oh yeah caton. lob one his way aswell.

reg have you got sons called tom and joe?

nah....Richard and Harry

Garrard has to get a new contract, I've seen nothing of any of the other youngsters though except Caton who will probably get offered one as well.

Robinson's definitely gone, Book, Fallon and possibly Hewlett will be gone as well, Reeves will retire from playing and I wouldn't be surprised if Nicholas mysteriously disappeared to a Div 3 team in the summer.

would keep Caton too. looked good in todays reserve game. Lance Lewis was dire... only thing he did when he came on was get caught offside over and over again.

we are in div 3 SY!

sorry I'm stuck in my ways a bit.

thats ok, i'm too pissed to give a good opinion

caton?

sadly I see

Evans
O'Hanlon
Smith
Igoe
Fallon
Parkin
Nicholas
Howard
Book

All leaving in the summer...

Sadly it is quite possible.....having cut everything to the bone, the powers that be are now starting to scrape down to the marrow, in all areas of the club.

   We will soon be left with a set up little better than decent non league, but trying to compete at a reasonable level.

I see no reason why...

Evans- far too rubbish  :wink:  He is though
Smith- I'm sure even AK can see he needs a new deal
Igoe- oldish and poor this season
Howard- who the fuck wants him then?

Why Simple

We are skint, infact all the 91 other league clubs can probably give these guys better wages....

Someone will gamble on these players because they will be cheap (yet still too expensive for us)...

Isn't Caton only first year scholar? hes a year younger than me..

Caton was in the year below me at school, there's an interesting fact for you all.

 Made me think of the sporty types I went to school with....one was John Francome who was a good all round sportsman and kept his horse riding quiet.

 The other was a dude called Richard Harding, who used to compete with me for the scrum half position in the school rugby team. this led to a bit of resentment and a few rucks and mauls....I had a passionate desire to batter this little shit, but  could never manage to better him.

 His family didn't like our rough school so sent him to Millfield, subsequently he played for and captained England...in fact he was the captaiin previous to Will Carling.

So now we all know how old Reg is...

i went to school with mildenhall,and live in same street as ashan holgate who thinks andy caton will be the dogs bollox for town and if evans goes why not have mildy back he dont like it on oldhams bench

I think I would keep Evans, howard, Igoe and Smith. Unsure about the others as it would depend on their wages and what else we could get in.

Ian Botham went to my secondary school,a few years younger than my dad.

My old tutor tauhgt Marcus Trescothick how to play cricket! not quite the same but hey!

pie has to be the best meals
l....ever!

See King is in the adver today doing his anual take it or leave it speech before the summer.  My predictions are...

Evans - NEW 2yr deal
Book - NEW 1yr deal

Jenkins - 1 year remaining
O'Hanlon - 1 Year remaining
Ifil - 1 year remaining + 1yr option
Reeves - Stepping up as full time coach but still registering to play
Heywood -  NEW 1 yr deal
Duke - NEW 1yr deal
Nicholas - 1 year remaining  OUT - Chester

Robinson - Expired - OUT
Igoe - Expired - NEW 1yr deal
Hewlett - Expired - NEW 1yr deal
Miglioranzi - 1yr remaining
Smith - Expired - OUT (tough call but I think he will likely be offered a poor contract and walk)
Howard - 1yr remaining

Parkin - 1yr remaining
Fallon - 1yr remaining OUT (if any takers)
Roberts - 2yrs remaining

Final Year Scholars

Garrard NEW - 6 month deal
Pook NEW - 6 month deal
Holgate NEW - 6 month deal
Wells
Bulman

Can see King trying to bring in about 6 - 7 new players.

New LB to replace Nicholas
New CB to replace Reeves

New LW to replace Holmes, unless Howard returns back to the left.
New CM to replace Turbo

New CF regardless of Rory coming or going.

Not sure where else he will look to strengthen.  Probably bring in a couple of Prem youngsters and an older head to balance things out along with the usual non-league bit of tat.

sounds about right but i think we will keep fallon ,and dont forget caton so i dont know whether we will get another striker...we could get mooney back and stone him just a idea

There will be one promising youngster released from the Premiership, two well known but not top notch players and somebody from lower down in the English footbal;ling pyramid.
Hopefully that will include a replacement for Parkin (assuming he goes) and a 'hard man' in CM.

Hadn't realised but it seems Howard is in fact out of contract in the summer with some sort of 1yr option.

Makes things interesting.  I would say that the option is a clause similar to the one Duke had a season or so back that a minimum amount of games played triggers a 1yr extension.

That said who knows if he's played enough?  Probably a stayer mind I'd have thought.

Rhys is going. No doubt about it.

Dazza - I disagree, I think far more will go that you predict.

Book - Out - too old (37 next season, and has not challenging Rhys) - could change if he impresses but I highly doubt it

Ifil - Possible out (may go as hasn't played of late and seems to have fallen out of King's good books)

Nicholas - OUT

Robinson - OUT (not even on our subs bench now)

Howard - OUT  :( (He will want 1st team football, and he isn't getting it here right now - won't be impressed at losing his place to a 17 yr old)

Igoe - OUT (hopefully - think we can do better on the right wing)

Smith - NEW 1 yr deal (having scored goals King would be very very stupid to let him leave - stayed last year despite playing a handful of games, so he's likely to stay again)

Fallon - OUT (shame, but I think he sees he's not in the manager's first team plans)

Caton - NEW 8yr pro deal having impressed at the end of this season sufficiently to justify an 8 year contract


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Hopefully we'll bag:

New striker
New RM
New CM
New backup GK

That is all we need to push on, it really is.

However, having read what King's saying recently, don't be surprised if even more than what I've listed leave.  I believe King is disappointed this year with the performance of players - notably Ifil and Howard - and think he'll show a few the door and try what he did the season before last, and hope it has similar effects.

Hold on... An EIGHT year contract? Was that irony?

ben wells isnt in his final year so he'll be around for another season or two.
i think we are all being a bit sentimental and not wanting to wave goodbye to our players but as king said"lock stock and barrel changes" he'll start from scratch only really wanting to retain o'hanlon,parkin, roberts and howard, he'll have to keep some others though. that's my take on things anyway

Can't see Jerel going he has a year remaining and with Reeves likely to be stepping down another gear it would leave us very short at the back.  

Howard I'd only say there is a slim chance.  I can see him figuring now until the end of the season, which will probably trigger the 1year option he has.

did i mention king loves cock

Robo-Cock?

Squad next season

Evans

Jenkins
O'Hanlon
Heywood
Ifil
Duke
Garrard

Igoe
Miglioranzi
Howard
Smith
Hewlett

Parkin???
Caton
Roberts

+ another keep (maybe Book)
+ another defender
+ a CM
+ a striker (or two if Parkin leaves)

He's good, but not that good :|

My thinking behind Jerel going was much the same as that behind Howard - both players will expect to be first team regulars after last season:  Howard breaking into the team and being a revalation, causing the team to shift formation to accomodate him (as he may see it!), whilst Ifil was heralded our saviour whilst on-loan and his signing was greeted with much enthusiasm.

Very much the flavour of last month, both players may feel alienated and get royally pissed off that they're sat on the bench watching a very mediocre team play....

no chance

I think:

Evans - likely to leave, wasn't happy about only getting half wages, may want more money too, he won't get it here.
Book - May leave, possibly one year extension
Reeves - Coach but registered to play
Heywood - Probably new one year deal
Duke -  Possible new one year deal, wouldn't be surprised if he leaves though
Robinson - Definite OUT
Igoe - Offered a new one year deal
Miglioranzi - New one year deal maybe
Howard - will probably sign for another year
Smith - Offered a new one year deal
Hewlett - May leave, King's often said he's looking for a new defensive midfielder but we don't have the money unless someone leaves.
Caton - New one/two year deal

Parkin - Highly likely to leave over the summer for £450k or less.

Okay, here's my predictions and hopes.


Evans
I think there's a fairly good chance he'll go, I get the impression he's not too happy at the club of late and being dropped for Book the other week may have been the straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak. Probably benchwarm for some midtable Championship club.

Book
Back to non-league and we'll probably bring in another veteran keeper to replace him as backup. Or Digby will come out of retirement.

Reeves
Same as current contract but I'd be surprised if he played at all next season.

Heywood
Offered another 1 year deal.

Duke
Games played will trigger another 1 year extension.

Nicholas
Leave the club rather quietly and mysteriously.

Robinson
Sign for Notts Co

Igoe
Offered another 1 year deal.

Hewlett
King will finally recognise the need to get a more sturdy presence in he centre of midfield and get rid of Hewlett to some relegation battling League 2 side (Oxford?).

Smith
Two year deal!

Howard
Tired of warming the bench in the latter part of the season, he will decline his option of another year and drag his lardy arse around the country looking for a new club Kalum Mooniaruck style, failing miserably and joining Farnborough Town.

Parkin
I think he'll stay. I honestly do. Perhaps I'm trying to hide from the truth.

Fallon
Bristol Rovers will sign him on a free transfer.