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[herthab]

yeh, and wise and sturrock play like brazil...


it doesn't matter what you did as a player, management is something completley different. If your going season-by-season, allen is actually more succesfull than wise, so...

I'm not talking about him as a player.

Wise was (Is) a massive name, like it or not. Sturrock has got three promotions under his belt.

What has Allen acheived?

The bloke just doesn't float my boat. We can do a lot better.......

[pumbaa]

I have to say I'm warming to the idea of Allen. His record's not phenominal, but he's taken Brentford the play-offs enough times to know what it's all about.

And I just love Coxy's viewpoint: Yes he's a cunt, but he'd be our cunt.

I did actually 'borrow' that quote from someone on here.....

Think it may have been when I 'borrowed' it from a Plymouth fan commenting on Sturrocks return  

Probably right, but I'll take the recognition anyway.....

[Bogus Dave]

the player bit was aimed at glos, not you dont worry.

allen took a poor brentford team to the play-offs two seasons running, and had two good cup runs in that time too. yes sturrocks done better, but has wise? not yet.

I really dont see any other realistic managerial targets we can have that are better if im honest. Ling maybe, but even that depends how likely orient are to let him go. other than that, who else is there

[Glostered]

My comment was based on the fact that Wise has been to an FA Cup Final as a manager and managed in the Championship for a longer period of time.  I can't be arsed to look into it, but I wouldn't mind betting that Wise has a better win to loss ratio too. But like I said, I can't be fucked.  

As for realistic mangerial targets that are better than Martin Allen - how about everyone that's on the shortlist, for a start?!  Ling, Cottrell, Adams, etc.

Just my opinion like!

[herthab]

If Allen did get the job, I'd get behind him and the team no matter what my personal view on him is.

But I'd still think he was a cunt

[Bogus Dave]

wise:  played 171 won 73 lost 57 drew 41 - win % of 42.7%

Allen: played 183 won 84 lost 51 drew 48 - win :% of 45.9%

[RobertT]

The fact that Allen doesn't even understand what the hold-up is about suggests he is certainly not the right man for the job, he just wants a job rather than ours specifically.

[Bogus Dave]

If Allen did get the job, I'd get behind him and the team no matter what my personal view on him is.

But I'd still think he was a cunt

thats alright then. its the "if we appoint allen im not going to watch us ever again" brigade i dont understand

[Glostered]

wise:  played 171 won 73 lost 57 drew 41 - win % of 42.7%

Allen: played 183 won 84 lost 51 drew 48 - win :% of 45.9%

 :shock:

Fair play  (You've obviously got too much time on your hands!)

I still stand by my opinion about the shortlist though. Allen would be joint bottom with Walter Zenga!

[Lumps]

the player bit was aimed at glos, not you dont worry.

allen took a poor brentford team to the play-offs two seasons running, and had two good cup runs in that time too. yes sturrocks done better, but has wise? not yet.

I think your post says it all for me.

That "poor brentford team" was Allen's side.

[Arriba]

a side that got alot worse when he left

[glos_robin]

a side that got alot worse when he left

Some would argue the reason he left was because he saw their financial troubles coming and knew he wasn't good enough to deal with them....

[Iffy's Onion Bhaji]

Basically Allen is desperate for a job and is begging us to phone him  

[sonic youth]

i hope he drops dead.

[JOHNNY REEVES]

oi fitton NO