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https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/health/sanctuary-ccg-be-set-provide-benchmarks-medical-care-migrants-and-refugees-3050851Dr Dan Roper, chair of the Hull CCG Board, told members the status would mean the body would provide benchmarks for how it offers medical care to migrants and refugees.
... which tells me that they're basically to be given guidelines/training on what to do in the case of migrants using the hospital. Right-wing twitter: "*spit* OH MY GOD, THEY'RE BEING GIVEN THEIR OWN HOSPITAL *froth*" - which was not said at any point in the article. I would try and point it out to them, but I know how these people tend to be averse to facts.
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« Reply #6376 on: Monday, November 30, 2020, 10:14:44 » |
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From that hotbed of lefty libtard anti-tory journalism, the Financial Times. ![](https://scontent.flhr4-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/128438411_3854852447907132_7302741581102077002_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=LdYOGH_TpsQAX9vPTNg&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr4-2.fna&oh=3dd7f2d9350114c8c054ce741d0dbcbb&oe=5FEB06F4)
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« Reply #6377 on: Monday, November 30, 2020, 10:39:23 » |
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« Reply #6378 on: Monday, November 30, 2020, 11:07:29 » |
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For those who'd like to read in full the FT's analysis of how Johnson et al have managed to deliver simultaneously some of the worst health outcomes and some of the worst economic results in the developed world https://archive.fo/V5j4xAs Jayo says, world beating. At being shit. Just wait till we pile the Brexit catastrophe on top of that. Worldbeating self-harm.
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« Reply #6379 on: Monday, November 30, 2020, 13:35:40 » |
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« Reply #6380 on: Monday, November 30, 2020, 13:49:13 » |
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From reading that, they could have made things so much easier to begin with just by saying people are expected to be sat at a table.
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« Reply #6381 on: Monday, November 30, 2020, 14:46:33 » |
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You wonder if this 'dramatic drop' in cases is due to lower numbers being tested to make things look better
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« Reply #6382 on: Monday, November 30, 2020, 14:54:52 » |
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Lots of excitement in Bristol because the army are prepping a vaccination centre ahead of any approval.
Nice to see progress knowing that there's a way to go still.
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« Reply #6383 on: Monday, November 30, 2020, 14:55:17 » |
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A clearer indicator would be a percentage of those tested.
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« Reply #6384 on: Monday, November 30, 2020, 15:06:54 » |
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From reading that, they could have made things so much easier to begin with just by saying people are expected to be sat at a table.
and that's the point I've been making. This shouldn't really have been about opening times, or food orders etc. It should always have been about risk management - you reduce capacity and insist on the use of a table, with no swapping or moving amongst tables. That solves the problem which was always the mingling aspect of stand-up pubs. They may well have screamed, but the other pubs would have plenty of spare tables to loan them for a few months if the reduced capacity to ensure sufficient spacing.
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« Reply #6385 on: Monday, November 30, 2020, 15:09:24 » |
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Wales have slapped on a pub ban on serving alcohol and a 6pm closing cerfew.
Its going to be shit until spring, as they said.
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« Reply #6386 on: Monday, November 30, 2020, 15:13:01 » |
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You wonder if this 'dramatic drop' in cases is due to lower numbers being tested to make things look better
Important not to take any one source as a true indicator. Also look at the KCL Zoe study, ONs study and the React study. Tests only seem to be getting to 50% of those contracting the virus even with the recent uptake. So if it was 30000 tests back positive a couple of weeks ago, the other sources would infer that was actually 60000. 12500 cases yesterday, so probably 25000 in reality. Zoe had it at 24000 yday for e.g.
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« Reply #6387 on: Monday, November 30, 2020, 15:21:23 » |
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and that's the point I've been making. This shouldn't really have been about opening times, or food orders etc. It should always have been about risk management - you reduce capacity and insist on the use of a table, with no swapping or moving amongst tables. That solves the problem which was always the mingling aspect of stand-up pubs. They may well have screamed, but the other pubs would have plenty of spare tables to loan them for a few months if the reduced capacity to ensure sufficient spacing.
I agree, and what makes it all the more galling is that the vast majority of pubs spent a significant sum of money preparing exactly what you suggest, and have already shown that they are capable of managing such a system. It seems likely to me that the hospitality industry will be under these restrictions until February, so all that money, time and effort they put into being as safe as possible has gone to waste. There's a danger that the industry will be decimated by the time this is done, to such an extent that it will take years and years to recover
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« Reply #6389 on: Wednesday, December 2, 2020, 07:19:57 » |
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Wowzers. Now thats good news
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