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« Reply #3330 on: Sunday, April 23, 2023, 14:42:46 »

Anyone get the Alarm at 3pm. Mine said ‘Oxford are shit’ Pint
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« Reply #3331 on: Sunday, April 23, 2023, 15:03:29 »

I don't get one.
Mrs B didn't get over.
Batch jr didn't get one (iPhone)

all on or using Three network.

batch jr jr got one on talkmobile (Vodafone)

anyway it's too late now, the zombies have struck
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« Reply #3332 on: Monday, April 24, 2023, 09:05:36 »

I don't get one.
Mrs B didn't get over.
Batch jr didn't get one (iPhone)

all on or using Three network.

batch jr jr got one on talkmobile (Vodafone)

anyway it's too late now, the zombies have struck
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« Reply #3333 on: Monday, April 24, 2023, 09:12:52 »

Figures
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« Reply #3334 on: Monday, April 24, 2023, 09:22:02 »

There was an issue on 3. Guess that's why it needed testing
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« Reply #3335 on: Monday, April 24, 2023, 09:35:40 »

There was an issue on 3. Guess that's why it needed testing

Beyond my paygrade or area of expertise, but from what I have read as a layman it was suggested that it was only sent out once via 3 but all the other networks sent it multiple times over 15-20 mins so it got through eventually.

Albeit for what its worth both I and the missus got it (Vodafone) but our daughter didn't (Lebara, who use the Vodafone network) so feck knows.
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« Reply #3336 on: Monday, April 24, 2023, 09:45:20 »

^ Which is slightly odd as I got it (5 minutes late) on Lebara.
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« Reply #3337 on: Monday, April 24, 2023, 10:19:41 »

^ Which is slightly odd as I got it (5 minutes late) on Lebara.

That is slightly odd because the emergency messaging is broadcast by the base station. Without going too technical (because I haven't worked that much on the base station side so I can't) the phone needs to be listening to the relevant time-slot when it is populated and presumably it takes several timeslot iterations (frames) to transmit the actual text.. Its repeated broadcast because it doesn't constantly listen. The handset should know its received the same thing more than once, presumably there is a message ID in there!

So you won't get it if your phone missed because:
   - you are in airplane mode, the radios are disabled so phone can't hear.
   - you have no signal ( wifi calling doesn't count)
   - whatever Three fucked up (e.g. only transmitting once as above, or bug in some base stations)
   - You had fallen back to 3G at time of the test (test was 4g/5g only)

To get it late I guess:
   - the base station transmitted outside the intended window either erroneously itself, or erroneously because the trigger told it to.
   - the phone has a bug and is replaying a stale message!

Its interesting to me because I workd in telecomms for so long. Most recently on 4G (LTE).

In the grand scheme of things I've lived this long without being eaten by a zombie/vampire/wearwolf, killed by a vulcano/flood/landslide and what the hell am I going to do with a nuclear warning?
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« Reply #3338 on: Monday, April 24, 2023, 10:30:07 »

That is slightly odd because the emergency messaging is broadcast by the base station. Without going too technical (because I haven't worked that much on the base station side so I can't) the phone needs to be listening to the relevant time-slot when it is populated and presumably it takes several timeslot iterations (frames) to transmit the actual text.. Its repeated broadcast because it doesn't constantly listen. The handset should know its received the same thing more than once, presumably there is a message ID in there!

So you won't get it if your phone missed because:
   - you are in airplane mode, the radios are disabled so phone can't hear.
   - you have no signal ( wifi calling doesn't count)
   - whatever Three fucked up (e.g. only transmitting once as above, or bug in some base stations)
   - You had fallen back to 3G at time of the test (test was 4g/5g only)

To get it late I guess:
   - the base station transmitted outside the intended window either erroneously itself, or erroneously because the trigger told it to.
   - the phone has a bug and is replaying a stale message!

Its interesting to me because I workd in telecomms for so long. Most recently on 4G (LTE).

In the grand scheme of things I've lived this long without being eaten by a zombie/vampire/wearwolf, killed by a vulcano/flood/landslide and what the hell am I going to do with a nuclear warning?

This is what I gleaned my basic understanding from looking at (but if I am honest not really understanding).

https://twitter.com/davwheat_/status/1650149573313085441

You would like to think if we all receive note of impending doom someone may mention it to you in passing?
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« Reply #3339 on: Monday, April 24, 2023, 13:48:23 »

I got mine (o2) at 15:00, my other half got hers (Tesco mobile) at 15:02.
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« Reply #3340 on: Monday, April 24, 2023, 13:52:46 »

I got mine (o2) at 15:00, my other half got hers (Tesco mobile) at 15:02.

And I believe Tesco use O2 signal. Which in turn is owned by Telefonica I think.
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« Reply #3341 on: Monday, April 24, 2023, 14:33:23 »

14:59 for me  Too Cool
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« Reply #3342 on: Monday, April 24, 2023, 18:16:45 »

I was at the checkout in Tesco - loads of phones went off at 14.59, then loads more at 15.00 - mine went off when i was back in the car at 15.07 - i am on O2
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« Reply #3343 on: Tuesday, April 25, 2023, 10:53:46 »

I saw Ryan Wheelan yesterday hint that Sandro could be going to Crawley as DoF. I thought it was a bit tongue-in-cheek to begin with, but having seen Chris Galley their Acting CEO and DoF resigned, could it be true? https://www.crawleytownfc.com/news/2023/april/club-update/
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« Reply #3344 on: Tuesday, April 25, 2023, 11:07:28 »

Let's hope Lindsey has requested Sandro😀
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