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If they can hang on for another quarter of an hour then it'll be a great result for France.

France are rubbish. No cutting-edge up front.

This tournament has been mega disappointing so far. I'd be much happier if England were in it, and I'm Welsh!

soapy tit wank at france. Portugal have looked the best so far. There two goals were very good.

as magic said, dissapointing tournament so far, hopfully the italy vs the dutch will pick up the pace.

It's a yawn fest - I hope it gets going by the 2nd group games at least.

What a fucking shit game

I hope France get dumped out of it

Cunts lost me money. Time for Italy to win me some back.

You should be safe. I've backed Holland and I usually get it wrong....

I actually went out and strimmed the edges of my back garden! that's how fucking shit that game was.

So do I... It'll be a draw.

Good result for the Romanians  8)

How come the euro stunners match hasnt happened yet anyhow?

Didn't bother putting anything on that game, an Italy win would be a bit good for topping up the Betfair account though!

Wahey - we're in the Wankdorf Stadium of Young Boys.
 
:|

8 o clock.
Your in for it  8)

Boularooz is playing. Italy to win.

I wish England were there. But if we were, then we'd have Steve Maclaren in charge still.  :(

I think not young sire!

Your probably right to be honest, i'm not very hopeful.

Do Holland usually wear sky blue socks?

sweepstake on how many terrible fouls matterazi gets away with this game?

missing the euro's is a small price to pay to get that cunt away from all types of football in general

100+ arrests last night I see...

We have a bad reputation and get threatened by FIFA/UEFA because of our fans behaviour, but there never seems to be much of a fuss when it's anyone else...

Any italians killed by these supporters last night, after years of trouble by these same fans???

No?  Then I doubt UEFA will ban them from Europe, quite rightly too.

Good on Holland!!  1-0!

Now then I assume Ruud V N was not flagged offside as the italian defender who was behind the goal line technically was still in play as to leave the field of play you should ask for permission to leave the pitch.

probably the poles and germans

Betting question here, Im trying to bet on the winner of euro 2008 on coral (free bet) but I can not find it.  Any one care to give me a link.

It can be the only reason it was given.

2-0

Quality!!!!  2-0!

CUNTS!

put money on van nistelrooy to score first and a 2-2 draw - only need two goals from the itals now

Bloody good goal that one!

jan, that is exacly what i just text bennett and my explenation

In which case Clive and Pleat should be fucking sacked!

David Pleat went a little crazy (for him).

Oh. Plenty of time to get three though...

Shit commentators really fuck me off, why they should have a quality job like they do and yet clearly lack any football knowledge is shocking.

Even if I'm wrong I'd have had a little chat about that possibility, these two aunts haven't given it a moments thought!

Can Clive Tyldesley go one game without mentioning Cristiano Ronaldo for gods sake!

The was i saw it was buffon (sp) ran into panuci (sp) pushing him off the pitch, he did not (as far as i could see) signal he was injured, and was not recieveing any treatment, there for being deemed active in play, hence leaving ruud onside.

I concur Chubbster!!!

Gone a bit quiet since the second goal.

Anyone find this?

"He tried to slide it passed the giant Italian keeper..."

Buffon a giant?  FFS this bloke gets worse, I'd say Buffon is average size for a keeper and by no means a Schmeichel-esque "giant"

buffon 6ft3
schmeichel 6ft4

not much in it

Schmeichel must have had a bigger frame than Buffon though surely?!?  Buffon doesn't strike me as a "giant" of a man.

Okay I'll accept that he may be bigger than I first thought.

Hail Clive :wink:

That whole Dutch kit is an abomination.  The baby, powder blue socks, the square numbers, the wierd shape badge and the flag is only on one half of the collar.  AND, it's the flag of Luxembourg.

man alive when you thought that it couldn't get worse than motson or that insufferable cunt pearce we've got pleat and whoever this clown on itv is.

what a complete no clue penis commentry team ITV have compiled

Townsend as well. During his top half time punditry, he said how disappointed he was in the lino.

The funny thing is though Magic they didn't even mention Panucci, and on the digital replay thing they use Panucci wasn't even on there.  

Surely one of them should have picked it up.   If they had and then disregarded it then fair enough but to ignore it completely is crap and embarrassing.

exactly jan

3 - 0 Holland

Holland haven't had to do alot, yet 3-0.

They've played well the Dutch, the Italians are usually slow to start in these tournaments, it'll be interesting to see if they can progress now!

Italy, rubbish.

France, rubbish.

Croatia, rubbish.

Czech, rubbish.

Not sure the dutch have a keeper who can step into van der sars shoes.

Think that's a bit harsh Magique.  First games are usually a little slow to get going.

I wonder if you can get odds on Italy to knock the Dutch out in the semi's now.

(I believe they can meet before the final)

best game so far

By a country mile.

I wasn't meaning to be harsh earlier. I just get so excited when these tournaments arrive, and then get so disappointed when I see the standard of play.

Still, onwards and upwards. We'll see what the Spaniards can do soon enough.

stekelenburg is pretty good

I see that the officials are now stating that the goal was, as expected, given due to Christian Panucci being behind the goal.  

Dreadful media coverage on this Virgin Radio, BBC (in their main match report and minute by minute coverage), ITV, The Guardian all showing a terrible lack of knowledge on the subject.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/euro_2008/7445476.stm

fuck me, finaly

One thing is bugging me from last nights game!

Ambrosini, Why?

Hollands second goal was brilliant

Dont do much do he??

Looks a bit out of place alongside the obvious qulities of Pirlo & Gattuso

that was a great match.

and easily the most mistakes david pleat has made in a single game, comedy gold. some of the names he was coming out with!

italy were "absolutely shocking" in defence. Holland looked decent but I wouldn't get too carried away, they are definitely in with a good chance of winning but Italy rolled over and died.

Do Camoranesi, Pirlo, Toni etc. ever turn it on in big matches??

some beefy tackles and some blatant play-acting, the ref looked dodgy and seemed to let some rash challenges go, yet punish others which weren't as bad.

Overall great to watch, and two textbook counter-attacks from the Dutch.

i've not looked at their squad but perrotta and aquilani have both been playing in the hole for roma all season (when fit) so you'd have thought taking off an ineffectual defensive midfielder would've been a good idea.

villa  8)

will they shut up about the offside incident yest, it was not offside, shut up hansen

8)  8)

what are greece doing, soapy tit wank

Greece are shite.

Cracking finish by Ibrahimovic though.

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  at Greeces keeper, what a shocker!!

2-0

What were they doing Chubber?  I missed this one.

Thank you very much Sweden, nicely recouperated yesterdays losses  8)

Sweden just lost me 3p  :x

I have a £10 free bet to come though  :)

He just never seem's to do much but i guess Donadoni thought it would be best to play all 3 of Milan's midfielders together for some strange reason!?

I would have bought on Aquilani as soon as they went 2-0 down, he's an attack minded midfielder with a great shot on him.

precisely. stupid roberto

What a mistake-a to make-a.

the back 3 constantly just passing it between eachother as if they were trying to waste time, this happened numerous times in the game, even in the first half, just passing it between the 3 of them, easily 20 passes at a time, the whole crowd were going mad,

Sounds like I missed a classic there then!!  Boring bastards!!

Looking forward to the Ceskie's this evening, hopefully they'll do a job on Portugal.

They better not! And I need the Swiss to beat Turkey to net me some more winnings.

Could happen, but I think Turkey will win that one

I've put a tenner on the Turks and Twenty on the diving cunts team (Portugal)

Oh shit, portugal have scored already, dreadful goal  - Deco.

Good good.

Scolari reminds me of one of those bad-guy/opposition coaches from sports films.

Now 1-1.

Yeah!!!  That's more like it, the Czechs are looking good!!

Bugger............

Still think the portugeezers will win it though.

Oooooooooh!!!!!!

This is turning into another good match.  Not saying this to wind people up but some of the football on display in the last couple of days has highlighted to me that england (and Scotland) have a lot of catching up to do.

Sven's years (and MacLaren's years) of softly softly football will take a while to get over, as will the dreaded Berti years for us.

Some of these matches are being played at a hell of a pace.

Clive Toadsley has obviously been told to tone down his Ronaldo adoration after his embarrassing arse-licking performance the other night

agreed jan-we would have stunk the place out with our outdated style

Quite right too.

I loathe Tyldsley. Earlier he forgot that Bosingwa had eyes at the back of his head... I mean, how could he?  :?

Baros is too worried about damaging his pretty face-get in where it hurts you fucking jessie!

FFS what's happened just got back from work and the portugeezers are back in front?

I hate Portugal

Portugal Spain could be a good match if it happens. Them and Holland have been the 3 best teams so far.

theres no way they can play anothr hour in those conditions, the pich is allready getting water logged

proper pissing it down! could be interesting! :D

Quality, love the way the ball stopped right in front of him!!

What a miss!!!!  This game's an excellent watch.

Will it finish though?

if it gets called off when will they re-play? surley the schedule is too tight

boo... rains stopping

The one tournament that England didn't qualify for had to be the one where its slagging it down with rain all the time instead of overwhelming intense humidity.

We would have walked this.

he can't call it off, no chance, when was the last time a world cup or euro's match was postponed?  1960's?  50's?

according to gary liniker and the official rules it can be called off

I hope it isn't; it's great to watch when it's like this.

I appreciate it could be called off but I mean can he really, practically call it off???

hes not going to now i dont think

should have got one there.

I see Scolari is the new Chelsea manager.

Wonder if he'll be encouraging Ronaldo to talk to Real :)

Fucking get in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Two bets, two wins tonight :D

Woohoo. Managed to get some dosh on Turkey at 14.5/1 when they were 1-0 down. £2.00 well spent that!  :D

14.5 to 1?

nice

Not too bad. About £45 in all, as also had them at 3.8 before kick off.

Boo, I hate Turkey  :x

I know, let's play football lookalikes.

One of my least favourite footballers of all time, Fernando Couto:

http://nationalfootballteamseurope-c.741.com/fernandocouto.jpg

And James May:

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00333/F_200707_July05ed_i_333351a.jpg

Wahey - Ronaldo and Nihat in the fantasy team racked up 18 between them - good stuff! If Portugal could defend corners I might have had some more!

Another two bets today, getting closer to the price of an ST!

Tenner on the Poles, 27 quid back if they win.

Speculative punt on Croatia, tenner brings in 66 quid...........

poles shuold win today

You would think so - Austria are by far the worst team in the tournament - much worse than Switzerland who have already been knocked out. Not sure about the Germany vs Croation game - Germany to nick a less than comfortable victory perhaps

Germany will win and Podolski will score.

Where's my sodding picture gone.

This place has gone to the dogs.

http://www.indiavarta.com/gallery/images/2004/jun/12/e5.jpg

oh look, it's James May

Croats 2 Geeeeeermans 0.  Excellent, where's our resident gerry when you need him.  He's got to be gutted with that second goal, personally I think Lehmann should have dealt with that, a stronger hand and he could have put that out for a corner.

give us a wave Dachauer  :mrgreen:

Ha  :mrgreen:

I take it this makes Poland's progress a little more difficult.

Althought that was a good finish.  2-1.

pulled one back, podolski. good last ten minutes i hope.

I don't want to tempt fate but Kuranyi (sp)???  Don't rate this bloke at all.

Did Steve Ryder just say Australia v Poland???  I'm sure he did.

These competitions are a great way of making the dull part of pre-season go quicker.

Geeky thing we do is the wall chart also known as...

Theo Wallchart during the last World Cup and Brett the Hitman Chart during this one.

 :oops:

Are the fucking polish defence drugged up?

No, but good lord the Austrians are poor up front.

rubbish finishing, polish keepers done a good job too, wotsisname

I feel bad for Austria - the team that didn't have the faith of their own supporters.

Thinking about it - in their 2 games thus far they've conceded two preventable goals then performed in a pretty decent manner. The effort is there but the quality hasn't.

Bascially they haven't been the worst team in this competition.

They are a bit crap though aren't they.

I know they've only played one game, but france have been the worst team so far imo

Yep, but they have a pen now - nice one Howard Webb.



I agree.

yipeeee

That wasn't supposed to happen. Bollocks.

 :soapy tit wank: Enjoy your last few days of freedom......

36 hours (not that I'm counting)...

what a shit game,. we deserved to lose but not that way, our defence was shocking first half, boruc was class, but we were poor up front and we payed for it, no chace it was a penalty tho

it was a penalty, and your goal was offside.

But, but you didn't lose.

Luckily for me, I placed a lay bet on Austria before the kickoff, so managed to recoup my losses on the Poland bet, plus a little extra.

154 quid up on the Euro's so far :D

I've broken even.

Me too.

i don't get how webb saw the austrian striker push bak and then still let them re take it. it should be a free kick to poland i thought.

£245 up. Would have been about £285 if it wasn't for that equaliser. Grrr.

well ye ok, but we may as well have.

  We haven't had a decent ref from England since the Wolves butcher Jack Taylor got the 74 WC final.....our recent reps Mike Riley, just dull shit and Graham Pollska, at least so bad he's now a cult.  

 Even these pail into insignificance when compared to Clive Thomas of blow the whistle as ball  flies ointo the net fame...but he was Welsh so that explains it.

 Going back the daddy of the lot being Ken Aston who reffed the infamous "Battle of Santiago" in 62.

"Even these pail into insignificance when compared to Clive Thomas of blow the whistle as ball flies ointo the net fame...but he was Welsh so that explains it. "

Don't agree with that call Reg, if time is up when the corner was taken then time is up, this stupid modern day the ball has to be in the middle of the pitch for the match to be over is awful.  Good on Clive for calling time when he did.

I thought Webb had a good game.In the 92nd minute the defender made a stupid decision to pull the shirt.Irrelevent if it happens all the time it is against the rules.

If im reading it right, (cant remember the incident and cant be arsed to look it up) THen the goal should stand. Time should be extended for corners. The corner is only over once the ball is cleared away.

Bollocks STA!!  Why should time be extended for corners?  I think (pretty sure) that the only part of the game (by law) that has to be extended is the taking of a penalty, other than that no matter what's going on if time is up then time is up.

Clive blew the whistle as the corner had been floated over, therefore no goal!!!

Im sure I remember something abotu that. Although the course was abotu 10 years ago!

Correct Jan.

That rule was bought in in the early 1900's after a penalty was given in the last minute, and the ball was kicked out of the stadium, and the ref blew up before they could find the ball.

The rules were then changed that the game can be extended for a penalty kick to be taken.

I always thought that as long as the ball was in play, the ref could blow the final whistle. Which is why refs are allowed to call time as the ball goes out for a goal kick/corner/throw, and also straight after a gk/corner/throw has been taken if he gives one

I think refs should blow for full time just before the ball goes in more often.  It'd be a laugh.

By Christ this thread is boring!Talking about the rules and what  bets you've made is so dull  :boring:

No offence  :wink:  :D

Holland - France tonight,might be ok.I can see the French winning seeing as everyone is wetting themselves at how good the Dutch are,it would be so like our garlic riddled chums to do a number on them.Bastards!

Sorry Larwood, let's talk about euro-cricket shall we????

This is the difference between men and women, debates about rules and bets have been going on for years.  Leave us to it you no tail!!!!!  We'll have no trouble here!!

The refereeing and linesman-ing has been shocking so far, toni's goal was no way offside.

hahaha gooo romania

1-1 Panucci

hahaha goooo italy

I could do with someone getting sent off here or a 3-3...

fucking 3-3 what was I thinking :mrgreen:

was u thinking of the best way to lose cash?

meh it was only 2 quid @ 190/1.

better than putting it in the bandit i reckon

there is still time, Luca Toni should have had 3 by now easy

see what i said about shocking refs

good save

Fantastic save.

Come on you greasy dago's, I've got money on you!!!

im sorry, but wht the fuck is that scarf arounf buffons neck

dunno but he should lend it to Carlos Tevez

He's an outlaw - didn't you know?

Fucking Italy getting lucky again  :-))( Cunts. At least the French might go out tonight. That will please me greatly  :beers:

Fucking I-ties!

Now I'm deliberating bunging £20 on the dutch later.

Unlucky Romania.

Hopefully they will repeat that performance in the Stunners tonight and gain victory and qualification  8)

Fookin Mutu is in my dream team...

Eat my goal - 1-0 Holland.

missed it, had it in my head it was 8.00 kick off

That's not fair - the music was still playing!

fantastic goal by roben, best of the toury so far, such a tight angle

Sneijders was better.

loved ruud's little turn and flick for the second(?) goal. class.

well ye, but he hadnt scored yet when i wrote that :-)

Put 20 quid on Spain and a tenner on Russia today.

Lost 8 quid on the eyeties yesterday, but won £35 on the Dutch :D

What a couple of great games last night.Really entertaining :D  

England not being there makes it easier to sit back and enjoy the football i think.Means not having to worry about who gets through and who we might or might not play in the next rounds.

Have to admit i'm also not missing the hype that goes with us being involved as well.Lets face it the last few international tournaments we've been in we've played pretty poorly,but some people still managed to kid themselves that we're destined to win.Also don't miss the stupid bints who walk around in skin tight england shirts and think just cause they know Frank Lampard's starsign they know everything there is to know about football :-))(

But hey,thats probably just me :wink:

I hope Holland rest their players and put a shit team out and romania beat em, and knock both italy and france out

Ditto!

Gone £20 Spain and £10 Greece tonight.

Larwood, I really really miss the bints wearing tight england shirts

Greece have no chance! Despite the score against Spain, Russia aren't bad!

amen

hahahahahaha france keeper is rubbish.

didnt really have a change with the goals really, its more the defence is rubbish.
Its seemed to me the only player on the pitch that was 100% bothered about the game was ribery, sometimes evra and sagnol, apart from that all the team seemed half arsed.

Didn't have a chance?! Second goal he just sort of half assed patted at the ball, like i would do in a kick about. Robbens goal was hit hard, but it went through his hands, you'd expect an international keeper to save it.

Not just you, well maybe the last bit is....

I also like the complete and utter lack of cheap tacky car flags/stickers etc etc etc....

I think the tournament is better with us not being there-we play absolutely shit football and thats been highlighted for me by the quality we've seen so far.You can keep yer Beckhams and yer "Stevie fucking G"

In a way i actually agree. I didn't think i'd be that interested with this as we're not in it but i have already watched more than i'd expected. Some of the games have been great.

I've not missed a game yet.

neither have i, the missus isnt happy  :D

she seems happy enough.

she doesnt like gingers x

thought sweden were a bit jammy there, ref bottled it.

that's what she told her other boyfriend too.

yeah she does hate those gingers

don't we all, bunch of twats.

There's been some good games, there's also been some dire shite.

As was evidenced earlier this evening...............

That game wasn't great. Holland look better than Spain so far but then again i didn't fancy Spain like most people did. They always seem to falter. I still think the Germans will win it.

I'm hoping Germany will slip up, but they'll probably do it playing a brand of football not to dissimilar to our own (Apart from they win things).

Ideally I'd like the Dutch to win, based on their first two game. I've also got a feeling Croatia could get quite close................

talking about games missed, missed the first 20 mins of the Croatia- Germany game as i was coming back from Valencia. I thouht the Spanish were quite lucky tonight. shame that Sweden lost Ibrahimovic at h/t. But the dutch impressed me last night, they destroyed the French and Sneijder has to be player of the tournament so far.

bye bye greece

You jinxed it you git!  :)

Had a nice treble on Holland, Spain and Russia  8)

Can any poles translate this for me please

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbuB_dkMlLQ&feature=bz302

chec just had a shocker

Cech  :D

hahahahahah

what, all of it?

shit a brick  :shock:

hahaha @ czech rep

I didn't realise there was that much. I think the gist is howard webb is a bad man yes?

haha, what a game, soapy tit wank whats gonna happen, this is ace

That was fantastic, what an end to a game!

Great second half!

turkey deserved it, played well.

tres amusant.

The Czech's were asking for it - they relied on their defence and keeper too heavily.

He'll never let them down. Oh!

Still, gives JT someone to talk to at 'dropped a bollock' therapy classes.

Of course we did, with a midfield like ours wouldn't you?

I felt the same feeling of emptiness I did when Leicester equalised in '93.

Nihat 2nd goal his finish was immense. i have Turkey in the sweepstakes at work. Also Jan Koller went down a tad too easy.

Irrelevant, the Turkish keeper was a numpty.

Too many players do these days...I blame Francis Lee...

So is it worth backing Romania tonight?  Got to be hasn't it?

I've done a Holland/Italy double.

180 quid if it comes in.................

Do you really think that Holland will be up for tonight then Hertha?  Knowing that they could then meet Italy in the semi's?  I can't see it, I think MVB would be crucified by the Dutch should he fail to knock out France and Italy tonight.

You can get 9/1 on Italy/Draw on Betfair right now...

Me too. £250 if it comes in. It'll never happen now!

Really cant see Holland winning this.I would want to avoid France,Italy after destroying them already.

I can see both games being draws. So back any other result than that as I haven't been right so far.

Chucking the BBQ on tonight with a few beers and the lads for the final group stage, will be bricking it after this

I said at the start of the tournament that the four strongest teams in this were Portugal, Croatia, Holland and Spain with Portugal being my tip to win. I'm sticking with that despite Portugal's loss to Switzerland. I think Croatia have a pretty good chance of winning it though.

Dutch have made 9 changes tonight. Don't know if anyone read Henry complaining and 'accused' match fixing. Can't blame the dutch, rest your better players for the next round.

The Dutch have earned the right to rest their players, by beating France and Italy. Big time sour grapes, although i'm sure i'd be moaning if England were in their position :D

Oooooo......penalty.......red card........GOAL!

Lets all laugh at the French :mrgreen:

Nasri who came on for Ribery who could be out for a while, has gone off for Boumsong. Toni nearly scored with a cheeky back flick. Also Motson doing my head in already with the prenouncation of the Italian names of Pirlo and De Rossi. Ahhhh.

Bye France  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

France are so shit its ace!!

I really do hate the  french!

I do as well  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Come on Romania. Send them both packing.

To be honest I like the French, the Italians, in fact the only nationality I don't really like is the Wussians and I think that was only because of the type of Wussians I met whilst on holiday were rude, arrogant and treated people like shit.

Yup agreed.

Dutch are 1 up. Huntelaar.

As a barman when I'm in France I have to say I love the Rooskies, they know how to tip and generally seem well mannered - of course a couple of resorts away from mine the really rich Russians bring a posse of hookers on holiday with them, along with a shit load of coke...

As much as I often say I dislike the French they're actually a decent bunch, their biggest problem is ott love for paperwork, that and their horrid nurses.

I still maintain I don't like the Dutch in big crowds, groups of 2-4 fine, anything above that they're my least favourite nationality by a long way.  It doesn't help when about 10,000 of them descend on resort for "Dutch Week" at the end of the season. :evil:

Au Revoir Les Blues

C'mon Romania you swines.

poor france

Yes, yes I do :mrgreen:

I reckon Italy will go further than Holland now.  The dutch have made a mistake.

Clip of the subs dismay at Van Der Vaart, farting on the Dutch bench was quite amusing.

I quite liked watching the French team coach having trouble getting around a corner.  :D

But I won my bet.

And that is the main thing 8)

Congratulations chaps  :beers:  If anyone thinks Italy will go any further with Luca Toni up front I'd like to hear it.  He's worse than Keith Scott and Charlie Griffin rolled into one.  The bastard will probably score a hat trick against Spain now....

he missed many many many many chances tonight.

Get in! £480 up now  :D

What happened to ribery? Listening to it on the radio it sounded like a reet bad injury, but they didn't mention it on telly.

Ha ha...immense!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/euro_2008/7460354.stm

 :soapy tit wank:

 :soapy tit wank: Quality.

his face split open again

Spain and Russia for me tonight...

Italy will knock the Netherlands out in the semis...MVB will regret not letting the Romanians win (imho, of course).

Andy Townsend annoys me tremendously... or as he would put it....

"Hey listen, I'll tell you what, that boy Townsend annoys me tremendously."

Oirish GEEEEEEEEEEZER

he has done his ankle in and out for 2 months.

De La Red mint goal

not as good as i thought actually, i thought he smashed it straight in off the bar but the keeper got a big hand on it, shit goal

Guiza scored the winner. nice header though. Russia beat the Swedes 2-0.

russia played very well, think they might come as a supprise in the 1/4's

Arshavin makes them tick, they have missed him big time

Russia passed it very well and just knew how to exploit the spaces Sweden left open. I really want them to do well but I don't think Holland will give them the opportunities they had tonight. Unfortunately I can't see them getting to the semis

The way Russia and Croatia have looked in the last couple of games, it's less of a surprise they dumped us out.  I just hope Portugal can do the same to Germany tonight

I've done a Germany/Croatia double for tonight/tomorrow night.

Up about 700 quid since the Euro's started and actually transfered 400 quid back to my bank account today (To avoid drunken temptation :D )

I want to see Ronaldo in tears tonight-Germans are mens men

I hope the Germans go out. I hate the cunts  :evil:

i can see Germany winning the euros, they are just cunts, always fucking there at the end  :twisted:

i think it might go to pens. also very sad news

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/06/19/sports/EU-SPT-SOC-Euro-2008-Netherlands-Boulahrouz.php

Pfft. Since when has Low been pronounced Love?  :D

i hate germany but that was a very well worked goal

I want the Germans to win, I like them.

I want them to win because I've bet on them.

You want the Germans to win??????
 :roll:

So sehen Sieger aus, sha la la la la  :D

Anyone but Portugal.

this game yes. issue?

2-0 Klose

exactly, and now it's 2-0  :D

2-0 to the nazis

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

Hahahahaha!

I want to see ronaldo cry :beers:

2-0, thanks. I like seeing the portuguese upset  :D

hehehe, me too.

probably would have got evens on that.

Yey Germans.

If the Germans lose this now they all need gassing.............

Most of them are full of gas already, and that's just the women!!! :wink:

Germany, even when the are in shit form they suddenly look like they can win things. Every time.

What do they have that England don't. I don't think it's ability, it must be mentality and that famous German organisation?

Oh, and yes, I too want to see Ronaldo cry like a bitch!

I fucking loathe Clive Tyldesley - ARGH! He winds me up.

Is it wrong, I want the Germans to win. I hate Ronaldo more than the German team.

that's exactly the same for me.

and no, it's not wrong.

It's very wrong to want Germany to win anything.

Why do you dislike the Germans Dell?

Our traditional enemies are the fucking frogs.

I was an army brat and did a 3 year spell in Germany as a kid - I loved every minute of it and therefore have no problem with the Germans. Obviously I love watching a victory over them but we're not there, so what does it matter?

they were sound to us at world cup a couple of years ago and i hate ronaldo.

whats with all the over prounuciation of players names?? its doing my head in.

gomesh??
mierelesh??

I don't cae who wins, just want to see a decent game from a neutral perspective. Hopefully the second half doesn't fizzle out.

bosingwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I hate the frogs as well ....

 I find myself in the same position....very strange.

  Oh and the Hun seem to have a player called Ralphus...I wonder if he's gayus.

Ditto, I normally like the old Portuguese in years gone by (post last world cup of course) always an entertaining underdog but there’s nothing better than seeing them being dismantled by ze Germans.

That Schweinsteiger has a lot about him and is coming on leaps and bounds every tournament he plays.

I dont dislike the germans at all, have no reason too. I'd like to see portugal lose because they seem a bit too slimey for my liking

now that Kahn and Effenburg have gone they are emminently more likeable.

wooooot

laughoutloud

Cheerio portoogull :D

Not going out in the bars tonight, full of Gerry tossers enjoying themselves - fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.
 :(

Effenberg was awesome

http://www.ndr.de/wm2002/images/newsline/effe_finger_150.jpg

but a twat.

Yes, fair enough.

I really hope it's a Germany Holland final, that would be fireworks.

Grandstand finish then. 3-2

i can see Ronnie get one to make it 3-3

hope the hermans hold on.

mwahahaha.

/bye bye Portugal. Why did ITV go to advert so quickly. I want Ronaldo tears.

that's exactly what I was thinking.

   I'm not sure he's too bothered, he can concentrate on getting his move to Madrid now.

for my purposes I'm assuming he's gutted and will cry all night.

  Fair enough....I do feel a bit sad though,  that  the diving and feigning antics of one Portugeezer, should cloud my judgement of such a loyal ally of England.  The Anglo-Portugeezer Alliance dates back to 1373....it was particularly significant in the Peninsular War when Wellington used Portugal as a base from which to launch effect campaigns against the French,  breaking  thier bid for European hegemony and bankrupting the Iberian influence in Latin America in the process.  

  No wonder, he got a pub named after him in Eastcott Hill.

Well, they'll be mounting pigs all over Germany tonight.

Oldest alliance in history (and still in place), I believe...but I've been on the Bitburger and Super Bock so I could be wrong (and a bit fuzzy tomorrow morning).

I put 40 quid on Germany. Croatia, Spain and Holland to make it to the semis.

One down, three to go...................

This may have been asked before, but how come Schweinsteiger was even playing last night.  Straight red in 2nd match = two match ban, did he win an appeal or something?

I've wondered the same Jan.

Kick out ze germans for fielding an illegible player and also penalise those fuckers above me in the fantasy football who had him.

I'm guessing zey must have appealed.  I was a little surprised to see him play last night!  Good game though.

This was from the official euro 2008 website:-

Is suspended for the final group game against Austria on Monday, after his red card for violent conduct in the match against Croatia.

It was only a one game ban.

why did Volkan get a 2 game ban?  :?

Because he's Turkish.

One match ban for violent conduct???  Blimey.  And to think Zaaboub got a couple of extra games ban due to taking too long to leave the pitch.

I think it has something to do with his name being so German that they only gave him a one game ban.

Was very torn last night. I'm fed up of watching Ballack, Lehmann et al rolling round on the floor for 90 minutes but, at the same time, any team who defends set pieces like a team of Adam Willis' and shoots miles wide every time they get near the opposition's goal deserves to lose

It's a dull one thus far this evening. Although the Croats really should've scored.

Not dull-"fascinating" according to BBC!

Pffft. I guess that's why I don't work for the BBC!

And now they've won it in ET

Ooops Turkey have done it again!

spoke too soon!

About the only unpredictable part of an otherwise shit match

Looking at the Croatia fans reminds me of Brighton away.

Bilic looked a bit silly at the end.

Rustu will be the hero, mark my words!!

I feel less guilty for "stitching up" a guy at work with Turkey in the Sweepstake now.

Fuck! Only just seen this. Cunts! I had the Croats in the sweepstakes and thought I was onto a little earner.

I got Romania, Czech Republic, Sweden & Poland in my sweepstake.

 :-))(

fair play to bilic, top quality manager, listening to his post match interview, quality  bloke, no slating of players, no stilly excuses, telling it like it is, good man

I've got Holland in the sweepstate.


They are going to go out tonight.Peaked in the group stages i fear :(

Agreed Chubbs...alot of British managers could learn alot from him.

Lost a lot (For me) of money last night, although as I've only put 25 quid in my betfair account I didn't feel too bad.

Getting a bit bored of gambling on football now, I only started it for the playoffs and carried on for the group stages of the Euro's.

I had 350 quid in my account after last nights games (150 tied up in bets)
so I've decided to shit or bust: 150 quid on Holland tonight and 50 quid on the dago's Sunday.

It was fun while it lasted.............

Same as. Put £20 in and took out £400, just going to play about with £2 or £3 bets for a while with what's left in there.

When I did it I said to two of the girls who picked first "whatever you do don't pick Turkey" and they did!  They must be pretty pleased now!

Called my friend in Turkey last night and sounded amazing atmosphere where she was!!!!

whats with the fucking love in with bilic? fucking racist prick.

Agreed. He was hardly the model professional either - RE: Laurent Blanc 1998 WC Semi-Final.

Completely agree Rich, like you say I'm sure Laurent opened a nice bottle of red after the pens last night.  Bilic seems to have calmed down a bit but to do that to someone in a semi-final of a WC is unforgivable.

Obviously a good result for Turkey - would be interesting to see them get to the final!

I'm pretty confident that Holland will win tonight, Russia are well organised but aren't the same class. Having said that, stranger things have happened....

Holland will bottle it-probably on pens

He makes Aragones look like Martin Luther-King

You'd expect Holland to go through but you just never know. Tbh my tip of Germany winning before the tournament is actually coming to the boil now  :(

another "fascinating" one between Holland and Russia - although better than last nights.

Russia look the better and seem to have been given the order to fire at will!

1-0 to the Russians.

Bushey Boy will have put his retirement plans on hold. Still time for Holland yet though.

The Dutch have been shite.

Boo Extra Time looms.

Yawn.

Oooo the referee has just changed him mind over a red card decision.

Don't see that often.

ball was out of rlay methinks

Holland blow it again then.

Yep, quelle suprise. They didn't deserve to get to Extra Time to be honest.

i dont like the way the russians wer fainting at the smallest ammount of contact, its fucking ridiculous, pavylchenko (sp?) looked like he'd been shot twice in ten seconds, the ref did fuck all. IF ITS NOT A FREE KICK, ITS OBVIOUSLY SIMULATION, CARD THE FUCKER!

to be honest james, the refs throughout this tourny have been shocking, giving fouls for the smallest of contacts, basicly being encouraged by the players of crowd, russa played very well, holland looked average.

RUssians just won me a free night out. Cmonski!

Viva Arashavin!  :beers:

Cunts, never mind! Lost my bet

Fair play to the ref for changing his mind on teh sending off etc, takes a big man to do that

Well done on tipping the pre-tournament favourites!

So far this has been a really good tournament. Lots of goals, lots of good football, and lots of shock results.

Hopefully France's demise will see the end of the "Makelele-type" player. That man has single-handedly ruined modern football.

I'd of won £20 if russia had won 2-1  :evil:

  The holding midfielder, has been around , since Nobby Stiles back in 66.

   If you want to blame soimeone blame Alf Ramsey,  who did away with conventional wing men.

    It sparked a trend for converting full backs into midfielders.....fellas who could tackle,  pass short  and generally defend.

    STFC had Joe Butler....in 68/69 we didn't concede too many goals.

None of the group winners have won so far, so it looks ominous for Spain !!!

Nah, David Villa needs to score a few more yet for my bet to be safe...for him at least, I need the Germans to win the lot as well.

Arshavin was immense last night. Also well done to Lubos Michel for overturning the Red Card off Plodin.

I'm looking forward to tonights game - even though it's bound to be a dull sufficating game which the Italians will probably win!

i agree, he was immense in the cup final for zenit aswell, player of the tourny for me so far.

Wasn't that only his second game  :shock:

I said Russia would nick it in extra time....wish I'd put some bloody cash on it....

yup

he is quality though, ran the game against england when they lost in russia.

i hope he ends up in the premiership, great player to watch

zenit have put a 20mil price tag on him,

iso far arse and the toon have voiced interest

He'd be wasting his time joining Newcastle - he's got to be going to a team like Arsenal... I've read Barcelona want him too.

how good were russia last night? :shock:
really enjoyed that game and the way they kept going forward even after the result was more or less decided.
i hope they win it

i can see Italy winning and Luca Toni finally scoring a few goals

Well well well the Wussians beat the dutch, what a surprise, well for some maybe.  I still find it amusing how some media whores were writing the russians off after the Spain game, even though after the first 20 mins the Russians had played just as well as the Spaniards.   On another day I think the Ruskies would have beaten them.

On to tonight, another one too close to call, though if I had to back one team I think it would be Italy, even without Gattuso.  Should be some decent footie on display though.

These Euro's have been a breath of fresh air, love the way few teams seem to be running to the corners (time wasting) in the last 10 mins as seems to be the way forward this side of the channel.

It's always the same really... Teams like the Dutch, Spanish, English, Czech Republic and more recently the Portuguese who get backed to do something and it's always the usual suspects and "lesser" outfits like Croatia, Turkey and Russia - all decent, battling international teams cause the "suprises" which really isn't a suprise at all - just mere arrogance of the powerful football nations.

2004 - Greece
2000 - Portugal (who hadn't been considered a "force" before this)
1996 - Czech Republic & Croatians
1992 - Denmark & Sweden

I said holland wouldn't win it  8) italy will win it

Another "fascinating" game(BBC)-John Toshack refereeing!You just know Italy are going to win

how boring is this game, geez

It was always going to be this bad... well, I thought it would be bad anyway.

Is Toni now officially the worst centre forward in the tournament?

don't tell his mum that.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz bore draw.

Oh...I forgot Gomez

I love the way Lawrenson and Motson keep getting Villa and Silva mixed up.

Yep it has to be Mario G!

it's definitely, without any shadow of a doubt, mario gomez.

at least luca toni looks handsome

i'd like to nominate Bafétimbi Gomis

Benzema was pretty rubbish

He was a risk coming into the competition.

Toni has/had a good reputation and this was essentially supposed to be Gomez' chance to get in the shop window.

If he was literally in a shop window, it would be Netto.

Hurray up penalties.

he's still young though.

gomez and toni are experienced footballers who have scored goals in their respective domestic leagues

italy will win

Gomez is only 22, Toni is 31

Gomez had a lot of hype though.

hmmm.

Wrong  :wink:

Thank christ that's over.

Blimey, I must be weird, as I throroughly enjoyed that match.  Good two teams, nothing between them, good to see Di Natale miss his pen though!

rubbish game but spain were the better shit team

I loved the way Motson confused himself when Fabregas stepped up-"if Spain score.........(I dont know what the fuck happens)"-what a fucking duffer!

I'm with you on that, there's something compelling about games like the one tonight. Thoroughly made up that Spain won though, they were more adventurous and Italy vs. Russia really would have been a borefest

i reckon Gomez will score the winner in the final

i don't think his team will be playing in the final. I think it will be a Turkey-Russia final.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: Pull the other one.

Spain v Germany.

Russia will get to the final, not sure about Turkey though.

Germany v Russia would be a good final - which I'm missing due to Lee Evans, I stupidly thought I wouldn't get into the Euro's this year - how wrong can a man be.

i think russia could do one over spain if they are not carefull

germany will beat turkey, fairly sure of that. i think russia could nick it against spain and a germany - russia final would be a good match.

i'm still tipping the russians though.

I think a Germany Russia final is very possible. If Spain show up though they'll breeze it against Russia as they have already proved in this tournament. I'm still going with the Germans though  :(

Every team so far who has produced a decent performance have followed it up with a awful performance

would not be suprised to see a spaim v germany final

Ballack is mint. How many goals is he on now? Player of the tournament so far.

i got him as first goalscorer tonight. 'mon ballack

They aren't playing tonight you silly sod

isn't it on wednesday?

I've just had it brought to my attention that Massimo Ambrosini looks like...

http://9c.img.v4.skyrock.com/9ce/lovet-bag/pics/594794418_small.jpg

...John Abruzzi from Prison Break.

See?

http://www.goal.com/images/19828_hp.jpg

i was agonising trying to remember who he looks like, thank you for clearing up he was a nihlist in the big lebowski and an angry angry man in fargo

sucre from prison break
http://www.uefa.com/ml/images/players/ucl/220X220/95417.jpg
pepe
http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/060918/16350__sucre_l.jpg

Germany will turn up.... Soon.

Jammy gits  :x

Good move though - just the same as one their efforts against Portugal.

Against the run of play. Lehmann is dodgy...

... nothing new there.

Apart from parts of the Portugal game the Germans have been ordinary but do enough to get through - They'll probably do the same tonight.

The BBC pundits have turned on the Germans so they'll be good now   :|

Motson's lost it, he just called Turkey "the Dutch".

Definite pen.

haw haw what a blatant dive by lamb....

Indeed :roll:

Old school officiating   :D

bwhaaaaaa. it's gone. Come back ya bastard picture.

(watching through Sky)

fucking shit bbc, who the fuck is commentating now?

ALIENS  :D

Sounds like a French commentary team no?

Is that BBC R5 commentary? Better than nowt. HD feed is silent - no commentary

Chris Waddle isn't it.

He said "...by the way", just like that gigantic fucking cunt Lawrenson keeps on doing.

It's aliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive, aliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive

Well SD anyway.

And now HD, civilisation is saved

Put the score and clock back on you shits

Its back......

Interstingly entering the search line "Mark Lawrenson+cunt" on google returns over 1,000 pages.

Is that it?

the commentary is about 4 seconds behind the picture. How annoying!

If it goes to penalties and it is still delayed i'll not be happy!

It's gone again. BOOOOOOOOOO

Bugger. I'll have to watch Ana Ivanovic again.......

Maybe whoever is in charge of this place could put it amongst the meta-tags (or whatever they're called) for this site. Every little helps.

Missed a goal - typical.

If I wanted to listen to it I'd have sat in a car or hopped in my time machine and gone back to the 50's  :D

can the score stay like this now please

FFS missing a goal is so annoying, especially when it's not cos you needed a piss, or popped out for a beer, when you miss a goal because of the Beeb's fault it's like a hundred times worse!!!

But on the bright side we now have tv images, and radio commentary.

Yeah, very unpopular point of view but I like Alan Green's commentary.

Goal. Damn commentary is ahead though.

Is anyone elses TV commentary a bit ahead of the picture?

Anyway Yeeeeeeees 2-2. Jens is past it, retirement looms.

fuck sake  :x

Another long night ahead by the looks of it then  :x

bootiful  :soapy tit wank:

Get in!!!!!

Come on Turkey!!!!!!

Did you see their manager getting whacked in the face?

Come on beeb get the commentary back!!  Noooooo not fucking Motson again!

this has got to be one of the best euros in recent times.

go turkey

Now fucking Motson's back  :x

Turkey would be dangerous if they started playing from the start.

They remind me of Swindon in a way, takes them going a goal down to start playing....difference is they get back into the games....we huff and puff and still lose 1-0.

Said it before but this tournament has been a breath of fresh air!!  Be great to see Turkey get to the final, but I wouldn't back against the gerries.

Worst still - Lawrenson is back.

fuck!

GOAL! Germany.

Lahm Shank!

Bollocks. Jammy Krauts.

Oh yes!

I tell you, if you just watched the last 10 minutes of each game and extra time you'd see the best of them all pretty much!

graet game!

That blonde German fan is bloody beautiful. Show her again.

Those women would def get it!!

Jumping up and down celebrating  :D

I must say, I shall be in Germany for the final, hence wanting Fritz to win tonight.

Come on Russia!

Yey they showed the German lass again.

Germans had pretty much 3 shots in the whole game and won - that's why they're through.

Cheerio Turkey.

What a shame the turks were injury/suspension hit.  They were the better team but there you go.

As for that blonde bird, I'm guessing she's Lahm's mrs.

who is the German manager? he is strangly attractive - his shirts fit nicely

Another good game. I think England have a fair bit to learn. This Euros has been awesome so far, quality games and high drama.

I can't believe I've got so worked up about a major tournament England aren't even in.

Maybe not

http://msn.foxsports.com/id/6825990_7_3.jpg

 :beers:

Herr Lion? Ex-Karlsruhe manager.

herr Lion - ha ha thats a funny name

So it looks like this guy here has gone around Euro 2008 taking pictures of attractive females and then putting them up on his website:

http://www.myfootballkicks.com/Euro2008Girls/?tag=/blonde+woman

Good work.

Well, it's Löw, which means lion in German.

Oh bloody hell another dismal spawny german win - that's why I fucking hate them although it's not so painful as it's not England this time.  Overwhelming favourites against a team that had half the squad out through injury or suspension and they turn in a shit performance and still win.  I have never had much affection for the Turks but they were bloody robbed tonight.  Here's hoping whoever wins tomorrow gives it to the germans on Sunday - but I strangely doubt they will.  I'm off to get pissed

question,

when swiensteiger (sp) got sent off in the 2nd group game, how come he played in the 1/4 final, im assuming he appealed and won, yet volkan appealed his red and got it rejected, bit iffy

 :D I like his comments,its excellently odd.

He only got a one match ban.

if he got sent of in the second group game he'd of had his suspension for the 3rd group game. volkans ban was two games, whether it was because it was a straight red or just general twatishness im not quite sure

I think our irrational hatred of Germany is rooted in jealousy-we wish we were half as lucky/good as them.I hope they win it.They seem genuinely fond of their fans-our players only care about themfuckingselves.

That was entertaining, when the Vienna rain wasn't killing the picture anyway. feel sorry for Turkey, the Germans didn't exactly impress.

It really is strange that english fans are puzzled that the Scots don't like to see england win, yet a huge number of english fans have exactly the same view point on the gerries.

Germany know how to win, fair play to them.

aarrgghhhh fuckin krauts  :fu:

vorsprung-durch-technique

it's got nothing to do with ^^^^ you know.

 There was a time when players were proud to wear the England shirt,  they may have been technically limited, but at least would give it a shot..

 With the odd exception,  now, we've still got the technical limitations and no fighting spirit whatsoever.

Are there any exceptions Reg?I spose Hargreaves maybe-and he's not even English

What you on about adje? Hargreaves most certainly has technical limitations.

Rooney,David james thats about it though.

As for not liking the Germans out of jealousy thats bullshit,yes i am jealous of any team that achieve what England cant but i dont hate Brazil or the majority of other teams.

I hate the Germans because as long as i can remember England has bought me up in a way that has tought me just to not like the Germans.

I don't really mind the Germans. I only dislike them when we play them and that goes for all nations.

Ask me about the French, Welsh and scotch though......................

What do you think about the French, Welsh and Scots Herthab

I don't think they're very nice.

I was on about the"fighting spirit"

but that "English way"IS rooted in jealousy I think.

I was joking.  :D

fucking come on spain. i put £50 on them to win it at start of tournament at 10-1.

According to reports on the net it was his new girlfriend, the only reason I said it was because she was on screen more times than some of the players and she had a number 16 on her shirt.

I hope Spain win tonight because i was talking about Russia as my outside bet before the competition started, i never put that bet on when they were at 28-1.  :?

We had a mini sweep stake at work (a pick your own team one) just for fun and I went for Russia, never backed them at the bookies though.  I still hope they win though.

There was me thinking it was rooted in an attempted invasion and a partially carried out genocide...

Ho hum.

I got Greece in the work's sweepstake.  :evil:

:D

forgive and forget-or at least try to

I shouldn't have expected anyone good this time round after having Italy in the World Cup and picking up a nice sum of £250.

Or the fact that they single handedly tried to destroy most of Europe and failed on 2 occasions. It all stems back to the history between the 2 countries. Most of Europe hates Germany for the same reason. France, Holland, Poland etc.

Most of europe needs to grow up then

Why? It's been passed down through generations.

Most of the Germans who played a part in WWII are dead, those that are left are in their 80's and 90's and in a couple of decades will all be dead.

The modern German had nothing to do with something that happened over 60 years ago and to dislike them for that reason is ludicrous.

We might as well hate Italians for the Roman invasion, hate people from Scandinavia because of the Vikings, etc, etc.

But I fucking hate the French. I can't forgive them for 1066.........

Doesn't make it right though does it.

Didn't say it did.

Germany are a very good team, one that is greater than the sum of its parts.

If England ever want to be successful again then they should take a long hard look at the German set up and the infrastructure behind it. Their league isn't dominant in Europe by any means, but it produces players who can play to a system and can perform when it matters most.

Well that's what I think anyway.

They've got a totally different culture when it comes to kids and youth football too.

IF you hate a nation because of something which happened before you were born you were born then you're a bit of a knob. Even more so if it was before your parents were born, as it will be for most on here.

The rivalry is a bit of fun, but trying to equate it to hatred is a bit childish.

Plus, you are allowed to stand up at their league games of course.

Ticket prices are really cheap over there apparently?

For purely football reasons I dislike the Turks (played better than Germany yesterday though) However, as a kid living in Germany we were always told to fear and stay away for the Turks! How bad is that...  :shock:

Wa hey, the ball hit Iniesta on the back of the head, and then he had a swing and totally missed the ball.

Yep a complete 360 degree spin - impressive.

1-0 spain. Xavi.

2-0 Spain. Goodnightski.

That should be that. Much more straight forward than last nights match.

Russia never looked like winning this. looking forward to the final, it's about time Spain won a proper competition.

Arshavin was virtually non-existent... He's going to get his 'dream' move to Barcelona so he's sorted.

Dunno if its already been mentioned, but why do every nation in this tournements fans seem to hum along to "seven nation army" during every game? What a shit chant

They are all copying Barnet no?

listend to a bit of it on the radio on my way back from work, and whoever was comentaating was trying to get into a fight with a dude who kept standing off so they couldnt see. funny as fuck

Very impressed with Spain tonight.

The teams walk out to the theme I think.

  I agree utter crap...as has all the chanting been in this tournament.  We might be crap on the pitch, but not off the pitch.

yep we're damn fine at wrecking every joint in town and all other general hooligany bits and pieces  :wink:

one step closer, just the nazis between me and half a grand :D

Going to watch the final at a fans party in Trier in Germany, should be a blast although I want Spain to win.

I think I've been to Trier - nice place with the impressive Roman built city walls and amphitheatre.

I just want a half decent match, I don't think it'll happen though!

Spain are obviously the best team but I have put some money on Germany because they are massive luckboxes.

Germany to win on penalties.

Torres has scored... Lehmann went out far too slowly.

Motson-what a duffer,he doesn't have a clue what's going on-I dont think he even realised Torres had scored for a second or two.

Motson's been a few seconds off the pace for a good while now. Probably right he's retiring from live commentary.

Sergio Ramos?

http://www.nydailynews.com/img/2008/02/13/amd_valkilmer.jpg

no, thats val kilmer.

http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Profiles/20071004/293.kilmer.val.100407.jpg

All bought and paid for...

Michael Ballack - Football's silver medalist.

Ha Germany  :mrgreen:

Ballack final record is dreadful. i think he has played in 5 finals and lost 5. Spain were brilliant today. Germans look very bitter and did not look interested.

haha tunnels

germanys defence was terrible tonight.how matey got bullied for the goal was pathetic.he just looked like he gave up.spain were excellent and are worthy winners

My boyfriends in Spain - what a great time to be there - he said the atmosphere is buzzing

Well done Spain, deserved victors.

why are the playing pirates of the caribean  :?

All spanish are pirates.

That might be the other way round.

was it really that boring? I started watching it, then just dozed off and woke up at 93 minutes.

I was quite entertained, not that bad a game.

yay go spain

fucking spot on

£500 fuck you bookies :beers:

haha, i saw your facebook status and thought of you when the final whistle went, congrats.

  The Spanish considered the English to be pirates...particularly El Draco....Sir Francis Drake.

Bumper week coming up for kiddies shoe shops on the South Coast ?

Yeah Trier is a nice place and is supposed to be a cracking night out to boot.

We decided just to watch the game in the pub with all of the Germans, and I was surprised how easy it was to get to the bar. There was an ace barmaid who was providing a quality drinks service which meant we never had to queue at the bar, cracking cans on the lassie!!

I wanted Spain to win but have to commend the Germans for their good spirit in losing, we got a kebab on the way home and they were all singing and dancing and generally having a good time. I dread to think what the English would have done in the same situation, probably set fire to as many Seat cars as possible!

Wanted Germany to win, but Spain deserved it.

Congrats on the payout Mex  :D

Buy me a beer on sunday mex?