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Town recorded their third successive 1-1 draw as they completed their tour of Holland and Belgium with a disappointing game at FC Dordrecht. Richard Naylor netted for the Blues, with both goals coming in the opening seven minutes.


Boss Jim Magilton played Sam Parkin in an advanced central midfield/deep-lying striker role ahead of Vemund Brekke Skard with Jaime Peters on the right and Ian Westlake on the left. Danny Haynes partnered Nicky Forster in front of Parkin.

 :shock: surely this is not his position

Wouldn't have thought so, but friendlies are for experimenting......perhaps SSP will become a new Teddy Sheringham.

It certainly is not his position.  From what I gather, Sam is not having a happy time of it with the Tractor Boys. I can see him getting loaned out this season (not to us though!)

first time ive heard SSP mentioned in ages....and its not even about him scoring....so I guess he hasnt got any this pre-season...

oh dear....was so sure it would all work out for him as well....oh well if not he can always come back to his adopted home

At least he is playing again after his injury problems

He's still getting the boo boys after him as well I think.

Which is ridiculous - despite missing most of last season thru injury, he still finished as their second highest scorer. Surely even the Suffolk worzels can work out that that perhaps indicates the problem lies with the team/formation as a whole? Like for example anyone on here could tell them playing SSP on his own up front doesn't work. Bah!

I've had a few chats with an ipswich fan recently down here...  
He's very insistent on me telling him exactly how ipswich should play in order to get the best out of SSP.
I can't be bothered to think of the answer..

Can someone give me a quick talk-off I can use that will keep him quiet for the time-being?
I've tried explaining that pace and heading ability are not particular attributes of the man so how did he score his goals?

He played in League One.

All credit to the bloke, but I think he'd found a good level, and shouldn't have necessarily gone up a league - sorry.

You could be right - I think it's best to reserve judgement until he plays a full season, fully fit.

Yeah have to agree with that. My Ipswich mate says the same, that he can't really rate him or boo him til he has played a few more games for them.

Suppose - but he could've also picked a better team than Ipswich (just to wind your mate up)

I think I'm just gonna email him this link. Saves me the hassle!
Quite a good little montage actually.. probably been posted before but I think some of the Tractor Boys who doubt his ability could do with watching it..

I definitely don't remember him scoring so many with his head!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzQXnByw5_Y

He was always good with his positioning which is why he got the headers. Such as that one against QPR one on one from a Gurney cross if I remember correctly.

He is ace. Definitely good enough for the Championship IF you use him as an out and out centre forward!

Pleeeeeease come back Sam, I've missed those goals. Actually come and play with the new Leg that is Brownlie.

Nearly all of his goals were from close distance (between penalty spot and 6 yard box). Not really a long distance striker of the ball....

That's where Ipswich need him, right up there with good crossers banging them into him.

Preston have confirmed their interest in him. Hopefully a fresh start if it comes off.

that is the story for you

Preston North End have confirmed they have made an offer for Ipswich Town striker Sam Parkin.
Fellow Championship sides Luton and Coventry are also believed to be keen on the 25-year-old 6ft 2in forward.

"Parkin is a player we've made an offer for. He's one of a number of people we've chased," Preston chairman Derek Shaw told the Lancashire Evening Post.

He added: "But it isn't £200,000, like it has been reported. I wouldn't like to comment on what the figures are."

Parkin has been hampered by injury since his £550,000 move from Swindon Town to Portman Road in June 2005.

He has made only 17 League starts and scored five goals in that period.

The striker was then left out of new manager Jim Magilton's squad of 16 for the opening-day defeat by Crystal Palace.

5 goals in 17 games isnt to shoddy is it

He's come on 5 times as sub as well

Do we get a percentage on resale?

really interesting reading posts on the ipswich rivals site

there are tons of threads about him and their fans are arguing about whether they are going to regret selling him.

the general feeling is that he was never given a chance to prove himself and was booed most of the time he played, he even got ironic cheers for when he did something right.

coventry, luton or preston would be a good move cant help feeling luton is where he would do best and i had a gut feeling newell had parkin in mind when he got that ridiculous price for steve howard.

i hope he goes on to score 20 odd goals this season for his new team and show ipswich what they missed out on.

feel really sorry for him.

shame q.p.r did not have the money to make a bid

I know people bang on about he's in the past and we shouldn't bther thinking about him, but Super sam was one of the good guys, not just because he scored a shed-load of goals for us. He conducted himself impecably at every turn and truly deserves to be at a club where the fans appreciate him. I'd always liked Ipswich fans until they treated him the way they have...if only they knew

Sam is a legend, end of.

Fjortoft - legend.

Parkin - not legend.

Parkin is the best striker we have had since Fjortoft though. simple as that

How is one a legend and the other not?

Copied and pasted something i said a few weeks ago:

In my view, a true legend has to be one of the best players in his position that the club has ever had. Parkin falls into the catagory below that for me.

Off the top of my head better strikers than SSP include
Fjortoft
D Shearer
White
Opara
Close

(ok I was taking the **** with the last 2)

I agree. Thats not really saying much though is it?

Having said that George Ndah had more talent but wasnt an out and out striker or goalscorer.

I fucking hate agreeing with PM, but he talks the truth (on this subject and BB)

8)  8)  8)

I'm so great

parkin is our best striker over the last decade fact!!!

if you were to take say bobby zamora who is without doubt a brighton legend
then look at his stats not including sub appearances
125 appearances / 76 goals

compare that to parkin down the page (very similar)

who knows how many more goals fjortoft would have scored for us if he stayed but if he is a legand then so is parkin


had some time to kill so here are a few players goals/appearances tally's
fjortoft goalscoring record in a town shirt
75 (+12) appearances 39 goals

parkin
135 (+7) appearances 73 goals

grazioli
50 (+38  ) appearances 18 goals

chris hay
77 (+24)appearances 30 goals

craig maskell
49 (+10) appearances 27 goals

dave mitchell
73 (+7) appearances 24 goals

duncan shearer
195 (+4) appearances 98 goals

steve white
252 (+60) appearances 111 goals

peter thorne
76 (+15) appearances 32 goals

wayne allison
117 (+3) appearances 36 goals

jimmy quinn
125 (+29) appearances 61 goals

dave bamber
134 (+3) appearances 46 goals

peter coyne
125 (+12)appearances 41 goals

colin gordon
81 (+2) appearances 33 goals

andy rowland
335 (+10) appearances 98 goals

alan mayes
173 (+11) appearances 83 goals

don rogers
487 (+3) appearances 178 goals ( i know he was a wing forwad )

How the fuck did Chris Hay score 30 goals  :shock:

very good Kaufman.

At least half those players scored goals at a higher level than Parkin though.

yep very true but he still had to put away the chances.

fjortoft was the better player but parkin is still a legend.

not about who you play against its what they did for the  club while they were here.

both were fantastic! but i think that parkin will remember his days here more so than fjortoft will.

fjortoft was an international already when he joined us.

nobody knew parkin really when he joined us and the fans got to see parkin mature and become a better play with each season.
i remember the fans being so proud when he got that scotland call up.
was never the same with fjortoft.

When he arrived he was the "new Ian Rush".  Unfortunately we sold The Chief and he stopped scoring (maybe coincidently, maybe not).

Very much a confidence player. Where iis he now?

it was Parkin's attitude which always impressed me so much. he also had a genuine soft spot for STFC

Was up in one of the lower league Scottish clubs until recently ... Stirling Albion I think.

yeh he plays in scotland. The days of hay though, i had Hay 9 on my shirt. I looked like a tit with that on the back though most of the time!  :|

For me the likes of SSP and JAF are heroes....to get to legendary status requires something a bit more....so very few make it....among goalscorers....Harold Fleming, Harry Morris, Maurice Owen and Don Rogers.....of recentish players....Steve White could be argued about for elevation to the pantheon of legend.

I liked Chris Hay. Even saw him in the cinema once.

was he any good :D

:doh:

Did he make your bum moist?

I'm not sure anyone's ever made my bum moist.

On a related topic though, I did try some moist toilet tissue the other day (it was on offer). Can't say I felt any cleaner mind.

Chris Hay was ace. Leave him alone  8)

i cant believe you have never had moistness of the bumhole..you have not lived young man

clearly not.  :cry:

i never saw fjortoft play and i've only been regularly coming to watch swindon and been aware of what's going on since about 2001, so for me parkin is a legend of sorts.

i can perfectly understand why people with longer memories would disagree though!

jan aage was the best striker ive seen play for swindon by an absolute mile

chris hay had the potential to come close to JAF but got completely fucked over by injuries. he was technically a far better footballer than parkin on the deck, but the latter's goalscoring record for swindon simply speaks for itself

http://www.itfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10272~887787,00.html

My money is on Preston.

Parkin? Hay? Fjortoft?

Kevin Horlock.  8)

I hear it is 90% certain to be Pressed On

I saw Fjortoft and obviously Parkin... I have to say when Fjortoft finally got scoring he was phenomenal.

Shame that both strikers didn't enjoy success at Swindon - Fjortoft had the League Cup run (possibly the Prem campaign) and Parkin a Play-Off season but as a team we didn't do much.

That's probably why they're loved!  :roll:

very strong statement to make.

different earas(sp) but both fucking quality.

Fjortofts goal v Blackburn from the *halfway line was Skill


*ok about 40 yards out but i loved it all the same

The one in premiership at the start against tim flowers, bloody silk!

I probably saw a higher percentage of Jan Aage's games than I did Parkin's, so I'd always go for him.  I remember his hat-trick against Coventry when he'd just found his touch, two against Norwich including one that I thought was the most graceful header I'd ever seen at the time, and the beauty against Millwall in the cup followed by hitting the bar when attempting Le Tissier's free-kick.

I still rememebr him counting out 3 fingers in front of the bank after the hat-trick. I was only 7 or 8, but that is one of my favourite Swindon memories ever.

Fjortoft's header against Norwich, enough to give you a boner for life!!  They should bottle that goal and give to to blokes with erection problems.

I dont remember the Norwich header :cry:

I'll never forget the curler against Millwall though

I was sat in the Intel for that goal against Millwall, looked amazing!!

looks like he is off ot Luton by the sounds of it. cant say im surprised at that really tbh. he probably wanted to stay down south

two things: sam is off to Luton and 2) why is he not a legend? He's one of the most proligic strikers we've had? Ever.

Don't make PM explain it again!!


 :wall:

 SSP weighs in at twelfth on the all time list .....of goals in all comps.

  hero....yes .....legend ....no.

Fair reflection Reg.

I'm quite surprised he's opted for Luton. Obviously its so he can stick close to home, more so than ever in fact. But he always stated his ambition to play at the highest level he could and test himself - yet he's gone to the smaller, less ambitious, more convenient club.

Good luck to him, one of the good guys.

Sam Parkin is a hero but no legend. Whereas Chalky White is a true legend. Anyone else remember him selling programs outside the ground? That deserves legendary status in my book.

I think Parkin will be a very good signing - more than adequate replacement for Howard.

Parkin is not a Swindon legend. Fans favourite/hero/prolific goalscorer .. But we had no success whilst he was at the club and most of our "legends" did achieve club success as well as individual.

Before the Brighton game at the Withdean a few seasons ago I was lucky enough to have food with him and the guys from Radio Swindon. He's absolutely the nicest bloke you could ever hope to meet. Top, top, top bloke.

Chalky White or Parkin?

Chalky.

if steve white would have learned the offside rule he would have scored 50 a season.
he's a legend just for pulling his shorts up to his chest,stfc's answer to simon cowell.
parkin is the best town player of the last 10 years so deserves all the credit town fans give him,if some see him as a legend then i say fair enough

so what constitutes being a legend? OK, we won nowt while he was here - but he was the first real player we had to believe in for years, the first terrace hero for a long, long time - the first player we could be proud of - he consistently hit 20+ a season and he probably overstayed his jaunt at SN1 - he could have gone after his second season but stayed to try and take us up.

I was lucky enough to get to know sam when he worked at the club and he was always up for doing community stuff (unlike many others( - he loved it at Swindon and still talks about it. He would have done anythign for the club.

http://www.lutonfc.com/cgi-bin/newspro/viewnews.cgi?newsid1156502518,18350,

I must stress this is Luton's 'unofficial' website, and nothing has officially been reported as yet.

It's on the official Swindon site.

http://www.swindontownfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10341~888358,00.html

fjortoft, although people will say scored more goals against better opposition (which is true) but remember that he had better players around him too!

it's all relative i guess.

legend is a word that is used too much in modern times

"Former Town striker Sam Parkin signed for Coca-Cola Championship side Luton Town, although Swindon will not receive a fee as part of the deal."

doh :wall:

good luck to him, boyd and parkin will be a pretty good strike force for luton.

we don't need the money anymore anyway

No, erm, of course we don't  :roll:

Good luck to him - Ideal replacement for Howard.

Luton go to Plymouth in November and if he's fit I'll go and see him in action (I did the same last season when Ipswich came to Plymouth)

I was tempted by QPR v ipswich tonight. I went last year with his mum and mates and he scored right in front of the away end... quality.

I woke up this morning convinced we would meet Luton at some point this season so I thought I'd have a quick check-up on Parkin's progress..

62 minutes in an 8-0 win against Franchise' reserves and no goals..

He's got some competition up-front at Luton so he's gonna have start firing sooner rather than later.. Crystal Palace next..

Luton fans turning on him already?

http://boards.rivals.net/default.asp?sid=936&p=16&style=1&forumId=4777&action=1&replytoid=2121032739

Not sure if this has been posted but he's got another lengthy lay-off.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/luton_town/6148508.stm

 Poor old SSP.....now he is a recent player who belongs in the category of hero.   (But not legend)