Let's Get Political!

[Flashheart]

Turns out even if you are really clever, you can still be fucking thick as mince.

You ought to see her twitter feed, it's bizarre.

I think I prefer Vorderman now.

[horlock07]

Things have got so bad that even Alan Moore is voting... (he also knows the score....)

[horlock07]

You ought to see her twitter feed, it's bizarre.

I think I prefer Vorderman now.

Whilst I don't have a dog in the fight either way, I just don't understand why Corbyns online attack dogs believe attacking a very popular (with the mainstream) game show host as if she is a public enemy is good politics. Its just another example of the fact that Labour seem entirely unable to comprehend that they need votes beyond the faithful to get elected. Don't they understand most Brits aren't political obsessives & just see a likeable attractive woman being attacked & are put off by it?

Corbyn really didn't help by blatantly bullshitting again in the leaders debate about the matter!

[Flashheart]

Whilst I don't have a dog in the fight either way, I just don't understand why Corbyns online attack dogs believe attacking a very popular (with the mainstream) game show host as if she is a public enemy is good politics.

I agree, but that does not excuse her own actions.

The t-shirt is in very bad taste to say the least.

[horlock07]

What a slimy obnoxious devious sod he is

https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1197196558300844033

[Flashheart]

What a slimy obnoxious devious sod he is

https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1197196558300844033

In summary:

Interviewer: *asks (a very reasonable) question*
Gove: Stop attacking me!

[pauld]

Gove shouldn't be allowed to appear on TV or radio without the theme tune of "The Omen" playing in the background

[horlock07]

More easily refuted bollocks being spouted

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-johnson-contradicts-himself-over-russian-meddling

[Nemo]

Labour's manifesto is pretty 'all-in' stuff. Nationalising the big six energy companies, bus services at a council level, free personal care for the elderly and increase in inheritance tax, corporation tax & assorted taxes on the wealthy. Not dying wondering. Would be as significant a shift in the way the country is run as we've seen, you'd think.

[Batch]

Can you find the inheritance tax details anywhere?

[theakston2k]

Just been reading the Labour manifesto usual bollocks as you'd expect in a manifesto most of which would never materialise and don't think I'd ever trust a political parties cost estimates so the cost side is nonsense.

Couple of things that interest me is the 'war powers act' that states the PM would have to go before parliament before an act of conventional warfare. So hypothetically if we were getting attacked or invaded we'd need to get Parliament approval before defending ourselves then?

Also reading the sheer scale of the proposed nationalisation I wonder how legal it would actually be and they end up just spending a term fighting in the courts. I'm not sure I'd trust or back a political parties legal teams based on past track records.
Similarly they keep saying that rich and companies will pay for the majority of the manifesto, again I'd back the rich and large companies to have better legal teams and accountants than a government and find ways to avoid paying any more. So if that happens then what?

Finally the 32 hour week is bollocks, what about places that operate 7 days a week? And the productivity argument is nonsense in industries such as construction where there is a limit to what you can physically achieve in a day. Sounds set up for the old BR days where barely any trains ran on Sunday....

[Nemo]

Can you find the inheritance tax details anywhere?

Hmm, no is the short answer to that, the word inheritance doesn't appear in the manifesto itself (https://labour.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Real-Change-Labour-Manifesto-2019.pdf) so wonder if that's been briefed elsewhere.

Edit: this is the best I can find, reversing most recent cuts (when were those?) https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1197475285416992768?s=20

[Batch]

Yeah got to the same point as you..

[Arriba]

Rachel Riley has shown herself to be a pretty vile individual in recent months. Trolling a teenage girl and spouting utter lies and smears via Twitter. Living proof that beauty is only skin deep. She's an ugly person underneath.

[horlock07]

I see if you google Labour the first thing that pops up at the top of the list is a Tory page, they are throwing money at this!