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« Reply #6885 on: Friday, August 30, 2019, 18:12:04 »

The Indy, well Tom Peck to be specific, are having a sneaky pop at us in this piece:

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/boris-johnson-brexit-sky-news-speech-no-deal-a9085536.html

Talking about Boris claiming the electorate will never forgive this political generation if we don’t leave on 31 October.
 
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It is almost endearing to even think of them as a “political generation”. Like the Mark and Michelle era of EastEnders or the third Sugababes line-up.

There is really no analogy out there to do them justice. Even the Swindon Town team of 1993-4 won a few matches.
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« Reply #6886 on: Saturday, August 31, 2019, 12:43:43 »

Dominic Cummings has notified Conservative MPs that if they vote for the extension legislation (i,e, to block No Deal) next week, they will be "automatically deselected" before the next election via Conservative Central Office "even if their local organisations stand by them". Thought this was the kind of "sinister" move that Momentum bullied Labour MPs with. Hurrah for "taking back control" from unelected bureaucrats and the sovereignty of our parliamentary democracy!
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« Reply #6887 on: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 14:47:41 »

And there goes Johnson's majority:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49570682
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« Reply #6888 on: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 14:53:39 »

And there goes Johnson's majority:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49570682

Ah Phillip Lee, rhymes with Integrity I believe!

Where's your majority gone, Where's your majority gone,
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« Reply #6889 on: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 14:59:47 »

Ah Phillip Lee, rhymes with Integrity I believe!

Where's your majority gone, Where's your majority gone,
tbf, in practice he lost his majority when he threatened to expel the Tory rebels.
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« Reply #6890 on: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 15:02:33 »

We are basically Italy in the 70s now aren't we?
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« Reply #6891 on: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 15:16:41 »

We are basically Italy in the 70s now aren't we?

More like Poland 1988, not quite a free, independent nation state.
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« Reply #6892 on: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 15:20:38 »

More like Poland 1988, not quite a free, independent nation state.
That then went on to join the EU. I'm not sure you've really thought that analogy through
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« Reply #6893 on: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 15:21:37 »

You're equating Russia's subjugation of Poland via the USSR with the UK's membership of the EU?  Seriously!?  This is extraordinary stuff.
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« Reply #6894 on: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 15:26:19 »

You're equating Russia's subjugation of Poland via the USSR with the UK's membership of the EU?  Seriously!?  This is extraordinary stuff.

We live in extraordinary times
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« Reply #6895 on: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 15:41:16 »

You're equating Russia's subjugation of Poland via the USSR with the UK's membership of the EU?  Seriously!?  This is extraordinary stuff.
Have you not come across the "EUSSR" trope before? It's one of their favourites.
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« Reply #6896 on: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 16:00:23 »

That then went on to join the EU. I'm not sure you've really thought that analogy through

It was an insane decision, an out of the frying pan into the fire move.
Perhaps all those years under the commie jack boot gave them a collective stockholm syndrome.
There was one guy who objected but he was killed in a plane crash.
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« Reply #6897 on: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 16:06:39 »

It was an insane decision, an out of the frying pan into the fire move.
So like I say, perhaps not quite the analogy you intended to make. Although given our current govt's propensity for insane decisions, perhaps closer than you intended?
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« Reply #6898 on: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 16:30:06 »

Gove had initially planned to publish the revised Yellowhammer document (the governments internal planning document that sets out what would happen in the event of a No Deal Brexit) but dropped the plans because even after an overhaul it was still too pessimistic:

https://www.ft.com/content/c95b92ea-cd90-11e9-99a4-b5ded7a7fe3f

Just refused to publish it in parliament too. So we're being led over a cliff edge by a man who explicitly said there is no mandate for No Deal because "We didn't vote to leave without a deal" (his words, not mine) and he's refusing to tell us the consequences of doing so  because he's scared it will look bad.
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« Reply #6899 on: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 16:50:25 »

Johnson looking properly rattled in parliament.  I've not seen that before.

I'm not going to get my hopes up, because I have every confidence in Corbyn's ability to fuck it all up from here.  But this afternoon the government is looking very nervous/unsure of itself.  They appear to be losing control of events...at least for now.  Hope it's not all smoke & mirrors.
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