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« Reply #5655 on: Monday, April 1, 2019, 13:05:42 » |
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So May is whipping against indicative votes. LITERALLY trying to stop people from finding a solution.
Yeah but the EU....... |
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« Reply #5656 on: Monday, April 1, 2019, 13:50:34 » |
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So May is whipping against indicative votes. LITERALLY trying to stop people from finding a solution. where did you read that? not doubting it, far from, just doesn't seem very prominent in the news |
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« Reply #5657 on: Monday, April 1, 2019, 13:52:22 » |
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« Reply #5658 on: Monday, April 1, 2019, 14:02:51 » |
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« Reply #5659 on: Monday, April 1, 2019, 14:07:47 » |
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OK, so whipped to reject the "indicative votes business motion", MPs given a free vote on the indications, but cabinet are again to abstain.
What does the first bit mean?! Less binding?
Also Labour whipping for CM/Norway 2.0. (SDP also backing it)
edit: OK, if the business motion fails, the voting is off. FFS!
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« Reply #5660 on: Monday, April 1, 2019, 14:16:57 » |
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OK, so whipped to reject the "indicative votes business motion", MPs given a free vote on the indications, but cabinet are again to abstain.
What does the first bit mean?! Less binding?
Also Labour whipping for CM/Norway 2.0. (SDP also backing it)
edit: OK, if the business motion fails, the voting is off. FFS!
I assume you mean SNP, but isn't it just window dressing anyway as CU means very little in terms of protecting UK jobs and business without the SM bit alongside it? |
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« Reply #5661 on: Monday, April 1, 2019, 15:17:00 » |
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yes sdp, sorry
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« Reply #5662 on: Monday, April 1, 2019, 15:23:20 » |
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I assume you mean SNP, but isn't it just window dressing anyway as CU means very little in terms of protecting UK jobs and business without the SM bit alongside it?
Common Market 2.0 includes them both does it not?. Labour seem to be voting for not quite want they want in order to stop May deal. Looks like it might get through |
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« Reply #5663 on: Monday, April 1, 2019, 15:42:39 » |
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Common Market 2.0 includes them both does it not?.
Labour seem to be voting for not quite want they want in order to stop May deal. Looks like it might get through
So basically its leaving the EU, but still having to pay cash in, obey and relevant laws they vote through, retain freedom of movement but we don't sit in the EU parliament or get to vote on the rules.... So much the same as now but with no control over things, isn't this just taking us to a position where the Brexiteers claimed we were (we weren't really) 3 years ago? |
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« Reply #5664 on: Monday, April 1, 2019, 16:26:20 » |
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So much the same as now but with no control over things, isn't this just taking us to a position where the Brexiteers claimed we were (we weren't really) 3 years ago?
Damage limitation. |
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« Reply #5665 on: Monday, April 1, 2019, 16:27:28 » |
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Common Market 2.0 includes them both does it not?.
Labour seem to be voting for not quite want they want in order to stop May deal. Looks like it might get through
Does it though. Even if it gets a majority May will ignore it, carry on with "not what people voted" for and somehow try and get her deal through again. Its not binding. |
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« Reply #5666 on: Monday, April 1, 2019, 21:11:30 » |
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Does it though. Even if it gets a majority May will ignore it, carry on with "not what people voted" for and somehow try and get her deal through again.
Its not binding.
No need to think about this any longer... all amendments voted down. So back to May's deal or no deal... which again looks favourite. |
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« Reply #5667 on: Monday, April 1, 2019, 21:12:48 » |
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useless, utterly useless
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« Reply #5668 on: Monday, April 1, 2019, 22:03:22 » |
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The whole thing tonight was a futile exercise in "voting for rainbow skittle-shitting giraffes" anyway as none of the options being voted on were actually on the table. All the options they were voting on pertained to the future relationship which as Barnier and Juncker have made clear cannot be negotiated until we enter the transition period AFTER WE FUCKING LEAVE. There are three options on the table - leave with No Deal, leave with May's deal, beg for an extension. That's it. That's what is on the table. Fucking pick one or resign en masse the lot of you. Preferably both.
MPs are sitting there dreamily picking out (or rather failing to pick out) their chosen ideal scenario as if we can then just go to the EU and say "We'll have this" without considering the possibility that the EU may have rather different views on that. Deluded waste of space navel gazing of the highest order.
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« Reply #5669 on: Monday, April 1, 2019, 22:24:15 » |
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Common Market 2.0 - Lab in favour, Con not
Confirmatory Referendum - Lab in favour, Con not
Customs Union - Lab in favour, Con not
Parliamentary Supremacy - Lab in favour, Con not
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I headed the ball. eeeeeeeeeeeeeee-aaaaaaaawwwwwww |
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