Let's Get Political!

[horlock07]

In the GE of June 17, the Tories were 20% in front in polls, it didn't pan out that way once campaigning had started.

Possibly so, but at that stage Corbyn was reasonably successfully pulling the wool over (especially younger) peoples eyes regarding Brexit, and the whole new kind of politics clap trap that ship has sailed spectacularly and he has lost an entire generation or two of voters who have seen that despite all the bullshit he is as cynical and ambitious as the rest of them and equally ideologically driven and clueless.

Hell at least you expect the Tories to screw people over, 'a jobs first brexit' even May would struggle to deliver such nonsense with a straight face.

[Reg Smeeton]

Possibly so, but at that stage Corbyn was reasonably successfully pulling the wool over (especially younger) peoples eyes regarding Brexit, and the whole new kind of politics clap trap that ship has sailed spectacularly and he has lost an entire generation or two of voters who have seen that despite all the bullshit he is as cynical and ambitious as the rest of them and equally ideologically driven and clueless.

Hell at least you expect the Tories to screw people over, 'a jobs first brexit' even May would struggle to deliver such nonsense with a straight face.

Here's Labour take on Brexit at the 17 election....

https://labour.org.uk/manifesto/negotiating-brexit/

 people though voted for the Tory version and that's what they're getting, had they voted in sufficient numbers for this, things could have been different... Corbyn couldn't effect the Labour pledge from the opposition benches.

[horlock07]

Here's Labour take on Brexit at the 17 election....

https://labour.org.uk/manifesto/negotiating-brexit/

 people though voted for the Tory version and that's what they're getting, had they voted in sufficient numbers for this, things could have been different... Corbyn couldn't effect the Labour pledge from the opposition benches.

He could have done a damn sight more to lesson the impacts of the Tory version when one considers they are a propped up minority government, his failure to do so and just to continue playing student politics will forever be his tarnished legacy.

[Bogus Dave]

Corbyn is fucking mess

Starmer will be the next labour prime minister

[Reg Smeeton]

He could have done a damn sight more to lesson the impacts of the Tory version when one considers they are a propped up minority government, his failure to do so and just to continue playing student politics will forever be his tarnished legacy.

We don't yet know what the Tory version is, or what its impacts will be. 

[Reg Smeeton]

Corbyn is fucking mess

Starmer will be the next labour prime minister

Possible, but Keir is more a lawyer than politician...  Ed Milliband would have made a very good PM.

[chalkies_shorts]

If Labour were clever they'd bin Corbyn, their worst leader since Foot, and put Benn in charge on a remain ticket. They'd need to sort out the Momentum pieces of shit and re-engage with the likes of Frank Field and some of TIG. Starmer is a smarmy cunt.
Fuck knows what the Tories can do. They've got a lot of internal mess to sort out following the most inept prime minister in my lifetime.   

[pauld]

I suspect we're seeing the the beginning of the end for both parties as we know them and the start of a much broader selection of smaller parties. Ironically, the Brexit debate could be what kills off our two party FPP system and starts us on the path to more European style broad-based coalitions

[Reg Smeeton]

If Labour were clever they'd bin Corbyn, their worst leader since Foot, and put Benn in charge on a remain ticket. They'd need to sort out the Momentum pieces of shit and re-engage with the likes of Frank Field and some of TIG. Starmer is a smarmy cunt.
Fuck knows what the Tories can do. They've got a lot of internal mess to sort out following the most inept prime minister in my lifetime.   

21 months ago Labour under Corbyn achieved the biggest swing at a GE since Attlee in 45...... 9.6%.

Unfortunately not enough to win, but enough to prevent the Tories riding roughshod over the British people.... the purpose of opposition.

[woolster]

21 months ago Labour under Corbyn achieved the biggest swing at a GE since Attlee in 45...... 9.6%.

Unfortunately not enough to win, but enough to prevent the Tories riding roughshod over the British people.... the purpose of opposition.

true, but in the 21 months that have passed he has shown what an utter cock he really is

[Reg Smeeton]

true, but in the 21 months that have passed he has shown what an utter cock he really is

Would you care to share some examples of Corbyn's behaviour that merit your analysis?

[Legends-Lounge]

If Labour were clever they'd bin Corbyn, their worst leader since Foot, and put Benn in charge on a remain ticket. They'd need to sort out the Momentum pieces of shit and re-engage with the likes of Frank Field and some of TIG. Starmer is a smarmy cunt.
Fuck knows what the Tories can do. They've got a lot of internal mess to sort out following the most inept prime minister in my lifetime.   

I agree about Starmer. He is an opportunist lawyer waiting for Corbyn to get hung by his own petard and bang, you have Blair MK11

[Reg Smeeton]

I agree about Starmer. He is an opportunist lawyer waiting for Corbyn to get hung by his own petard and bang, you have Blair MK11

Keir is a very bright boy.... the sort you want on your team.

[Legends-Lounge]

Would you care to share some examples of Corbyn's behaviour that merit your analysis?

Why should he? You rarely if ever answer questions thrown at at you. Still waiting for you to reveal whether you’ll be chipping in a few Roubles to the Trust ground purchase.

[Legends-Lounge]

Keir is a very bright boy.... the sort you want on your team.

That I agree with, after all Corbyn and Abbott in the club someone has to do the joined up thinking. Oh he is also a millionaire as well. When you going to lynch him for having more than you?