Let's Get Political!

[Bob's Orange]

I'm going on holiday next month. If we leave with no deal apart from making sure my passport is well in date (it is) is there likely to be any other disruption I should be aware of?

[jayohaitchenn]

No deal is the only outcome that means leavers have to admit they were wrong. It'll almost be worth it for the schaudenfrade.

[pauld]

Don't really agree with this, but understand the sentiment.  It's mind-numbingly awful, isn't it.

Yeah it is and I'm not even sure I agree with it tbh but there's a big part of me now that just thinks you know this IS what people voted for, you can't just junk that, while the consequences of a no-deal Brexit will be bad, the damage to our democracy if we don't leave will be worse, so let's let people reap what they have sown. As adults, we have to live with the consequences of our decisions, and MPs do not have the right to paternalistically overturn those decisions because they think they know better. That's way worse than a Brexit of any description. So fuck it. Bring it on.

[pauld]

I'm going on holiday next month. If we leave with no deal apart from making sure my passport is well in date (it is) is there likely to be any other disruption I should be aware of?

There's the inevitable zombie apocalypse. I'm booked to go to Ireland for 4 days in mid-April as well, on a kids football tour, not enthralled at the prospect of dealing with any potential disruption to travel etc with 40-50 kids in tow. So while the May extension is politically stupid on a selfish level I'd welcome it because it postpones whatever shitstorm until shortly before millions of people are travelling on their summer holidays.

[Bob's Orange]

There's the inevitable zombie apocalypse. I'm booked to go to Ireland for 4 days in mid-April as well, on a kids football tour, not enthralled at the prospect of dealing with any potential disruption to travel etc with 40-50 kids in tow. So while the May extension is politically stupid on a selfish level I'd welcome it because it postpones whatever shitstorm until shortly before millions of people are travelling on their summer holidays.

That's kind of what I was thinking as well. I won't be the only person going away for Easter so the potential 3 month delay would certainly put a few minds at ease. Now with a no deal looking likely and the leave date being the end of this month I fear more carnage than usual at the airports etc.

Although the guy that works for the Italian book printers said its all going to be ok, so he seems to know best

Where in Ireland are you off to?

[Ardiles]

Something like 50 to 60 new signatures to this petition every second.

Petition: Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU

[Reg Smeeton]

I'm going on holiday next month. If we leave with no deal apart from making sure my passport is well in date (it is) is there likely to be any other disruption I should be aware of?

I suspect you'll not notice too much difference, perhaps some initial confusion, but the impact will be slow to discern.

I recall travelling before we were in the Common Market... yes nice shiny blue passport, but because the economy was fucked, you were only allowed to take I think £50 with you in cash.

[Bathtime]

Something like 50 to 60 new signatures to this petition every second.

Petition: Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU

Interesting to see if it gets over 17 million...is there one started by the Brexiteers?

[Bathtime]

That's kind of what I was thinking as well. I won't be the only person going away for Easter so the potential 3 month delay would certainly put a few minds at ease. Now with a no deal looking likely and the leave date being the end of this month I fear more carnage than usual at the airports etc.

Although the guy that works for the Italian book printers said its all going to be ok, so he seems to know best

Where in Ireland are you off to?

I am booked to take 5 customers to the factory near Verona on the 15th April and thinking of tacking on a few days holiday - not particularly worried about going apart from the usual queues and my remaining voting customers are looking forward to it...passport up to date - go for it....

[horlock07]

Interesting to see if it gets over 17 million...is there one started by the Brexiteers?

Not that I am aware of, they are presently walking from Jarrow to London somewhat missing the point.

[Bob's Orange]

Not that I am aware of, they are presently walking from Jarrow to London somewhat missing the point.

I read about that yesterday, I think there is only 100 or so of them. I presume Farage isn't going the whole way?

[horlock07]

I read about that yesterday, I think there is only 100 or so of them. I presume Farage isn't going the whole way?

No Farage flew up to the start (strangely reticent to reveal who paid for the jet when asked by the media) where there were cameras and will no doubt be there at the end when cameras are also present.

The highlight so far was on Sunday when the route included crossing the Transporter Bridge in Middlesbrough, only for them to arrive and find it closed (as it is every Sunday - planning really isn't their thing is it!) necessitating a 5 mile detour for the poor buggers who have paid £50 for Farages vanity project.

[horlock07]

This is quite an interesting piece, which rather supports the opinion that much of the problem with Brexit is that there is little consensus of what it really means....

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/mps-admit-the-real-problem-with-brexit/21/03/

[Ardiles]

The only way to find consensus (or 'bring the country together' as politicians are fond of saying) is to find some kind of middle ground that involves leaving the EU but also recognises the slim margin of the vote.  But finding that middle ground precisely what Theresa May’s intransigent approach to this process prevents.  In her heart (I'm assuming she has one, somewhere), she will know that the indicative votes proposed by many have to be the way forward - but that would mean putting the country before her own party.  And she's shown no sign of doing that to date.

She is the problem here, not the solution.  Her statement yesterday evening was breath-taking for a number of reasons, with a complete lack of self-awareness being top of the list.

[jayohaitchenn]

Interesting to see if it gets over 17 million...is there one started by the Brexiteers?

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/229963