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« Reply #2190 on: Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 16:26:10 » |
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Oh, and what will be interesting to watch is how he delivers on that promise! Bringing back a car manufacturer like Ford is not going to bring back the job numbers it would have in the past, even if he did force them back. Technology has changed so much. It really does show the Democrats what fools they have been, and the Republicans, that someone so rich can convince those below half way that he will change their fortunes!
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« Reply #2191 on: Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 17:03:21 » |
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It is interesting to see up close the parallels with the Brexit vote - he has essentially won by getting low paid and unemployed people in the Northern states to break ranks from either voting Democrat, or just not bothering for years. There was an interesting stat, that got next to zero airtime until this started coming through, that half of the USA is still paid less than 19 years ago (the median income still sits below the level it was in 1997). So, although growth figures showed the economy was in good health, and more people are technically in work than ever before, a growing level of frustration was coming through from those below half way and the figure of blame was put squarely at Politicians and Globalisation. Odd that it took a Billionaire with a dubious track record in those exact areas to spot it and call it out.
Isn't that because Western capitalism is like a big Pyramid Scheme. Those at the top get almost all the gains and whilst those in the middle still see some payback, those at the bottom are shafted. And people are waking up to it? Bizarre, though, that those people would see Trump - a billionaire tax dodger, very much at the top of the Pyramid, as some sort of saviour. |
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« Reply #2192 on: Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 17:04:50 » |
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If I was a republican who publicly went against Trump, I'd be having checks done on the locks and CCTV at home. Backfired on them big time, they might get a job building a wall, but that will be about the best they can hope for..
There will be no wall. The wall is the Trump equivalent of "£350 million pound to the NHS". As he might say, "believe me, folks". |
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« Reply #2193 on: Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 17:42:31 » |
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Oh, and what will be interesting to watch is how he delivers on that promise! Bringing back a car manufacturer like Ford is not going to bring back the job numbers it would have in the past, even if he did force them back. Technology has changed so much. It really does show the Democrats what fools they have been, and the Republicans, that someone so rich can convince those below half way that he will change their fortunes!
It will if he tears up trade agreements and makes foreign cars too expensive to import. |
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« Reply #2194 on: Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 17:45:22 » |
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Anyway doubt it will go full term. He'll more than likely do something, or something will come out and he'll be booted, that or the FBI, or the Mexican cartels will bump him off.
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« Reply #2195 on: Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 18:38:58 » |
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Tony Robinson @Tony_Robinson 7h7 hours ago
For the very first time, I have absolutely no cunning plan
We're fucked.
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« Reply #2196 on: Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 19:59:26 » |
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When did he become an American citizen then?
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« Reply #2197 on: Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 20:10:59 » |
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He's a comedian, I'm guessing it's a tad tongue in cheek.
Just a hunch.
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« Reply #2198 on: Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 20:50:03 » |
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Damn thought we'd shipped a slaver out.
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« Reply #2199 on: Thursday, November 10, 2016, 09:27:13 » |
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Anyway doubt it will go full term. He'll more than likely do something, or something will come out and he'll be booted, that or the FBI, or the Mexican cartels will bump him off.
Won't be the FBI, that's the CIA's job  |
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« Reply #2200 on: Thursday, November 10, 2016, 09:55:01 » |
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A quirk of their form of Demoncracy is that Clinton gets more of the vote but Trump wins.
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Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?
Crap!
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Reg Smeeton
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« Reply #2201 on: Thursday, November 10, 2016, 10:02:37 » |
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A quirk of their form of Demoncracy is that Clinton gets more of the vote but Trump wins.
Bit like our quirk, whereby the SNP get approx 1.5 mill votes and 56 MP's, whereas UKIP got 3.9 mill votes for 1 MP. |
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« Reply #2202 on: Thursday, November 10, 2016, 10:25:25 » |
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Yes indeed
But UKIP love referenda ("the People have Spoken") and a PR - type alternative to FPTP for Parliament was rejected by "the People" in a referendum, so no complaints from UKIP, Shirley?
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« Reply #2203 on: Thursday, November 10, 2016, 11:42:30 » |
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Yes indeed
But UKIP love referenda ("the People have Spoken") and a PR - type alternative to FPTP for Parliament was rejected by "the People" in a referendum, so no complaints from UKIP, Shirley?
Think it's like their love of parliamentary sovereignty, they like it when they agree with it, otherwise it's toys out of the pram time |
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« Reply #2204 on: Thursday, November 10, 2016, 12:05:27 » |
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Absolutely.
UKIP's rejection of the European Court appears to extend to any Court, even an English Court and further to our very own UK constitution when it doesn't immediately advance the particular "hard brexit" version they support
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