Let's Get Political!

[Exiled Bob]

Skinner is just full of hot air and has never achieved diddly squat in his career just like most politicians from his party.

Be interesting to see if the lives of those in his constituency have actually improved income wise since he has been an MP? I strongly suspect not.

He represents his constituents in the Commons at every sitting and has done  for the last 46 years.  I hardly think that's diddly squat.

He rarely claims expenses and even paid for his flat in London....he's probably the hardest working MP in Britain and is one of the last real spokesmen for the working classes and one of the few with integrity.

[jayohaitchenn]

Plus he did 20 years in a mine (ie had an actual, proper job) before he was an MP.

[Outletred]

Skinner's competence and effectiveness as an MP is not linked to what he has claimed in expenses!

It should be entirely linked to the living standards of his constituents during his tenure- they are obviously still poor as they still vote for him!

[herthab]

Skinner's competence and effectiveness as an MP is not linked to what he has claimed in expenses!

It should be entirely linked to the living standards of his constituents during his tenure- they are obviously still poor as they still vote for him!

I'd suggest his constituents are happy with what he's tried to do, or he wouldn't have the position. Your comment is fucking bollocks, if the measure of a successful MP is to raise constituents living standards single handedly, what should be Gideon's measure?

[RedRag]

Hopefully his constituents' living standards will have raised since the 1970s and they have traded up from flared trousers, prawn cocktails and black and white tellies.

In 40 whole years he's not fiddled his expenses, shot his dog, been found dead with an orange in his mouth, rolled over poodle style to the USA or Europe, gone to prison for perjury. 

Not too shabby actually.  A coruscating and consistent advocate of his beliefs who, right or wrong,  has ADDED to the political process.

I happen to believe Dave is clean but, fair or unfair, you've just got to love the Dodgy Dave tag

[Exiled Bob]

Skinner's competence and effectiveness as an MP is not linked to what he has claimed in expenses!

Nobody said it was.

It should be entirely linked to the living standards of his constituents during his tenure- they are obviously still poor as they still vote for him!

Why? Are you trying to tell me that a Tory would have improved the living standards of his constituents? If so then your comment is in the 80% allocated for such shite in this forum......

In any case what makes you so sure that living standards of his constituents haven't improved in over 40 years?

[horlock07]

I'd suggest his constituents are happy with what he's tried to do, or he wouldn't have the position. Your comment is fucking bollocks, if the measure of a successful MP is to raise constituents living standards single handedly, what should be Gideon's measure?

I suspect that Gideon's constituents are very happy with what he is doing for them as MP, look at the route of HS2?

[horlock07]

In any case what makes you so sure that living standards of his constituents haven't improved in over 40 years?

Have you ever been to Bolsover? 

I think everyone needs to calm down a little, there is no doubting that Skinner has been a competent MP who has reflected the views of his constituents for many years in the commons, he seems the last bastion of what a socialist MP should be.

However that doesn't remove the fact that many of his statements and actions have an air of showboating to his supporters, hence his statements knowing that he will get suspended for making them and the yearly Black Rod quips - the man is a showman who knows that his rebellious side is lapped up by his supporters, whilst also knowing that his actual power in parliament is very limited and thus he can essentially say what he likes.

Neither right or wrong and makes a refreshing change from the political bollocks which tars much parliamentary debate, however sadly I fear that his influence is very limited as even the Labour Party don't seem to have listened to him much over the years.

[herthab]

I suspect that Gideon's constituents are very happy with what he is doing for them as MP, look at the route of HS2?

I was talking about his position as Chancellor.

[Saxondale]

The comments skinner makes are not that bad in comparison to the patronising insulting shit Cameron gets away with.

[Arriba]

How do our current mp's compare to Skinner if we are taking about serving constituents and improvements. I wonder what the disabled people of the town think of Tomlinson in particular?

I'd say they both have overseen a decline in Swindon, with no signs of this ceasing. This has been coupled with a Tory council, which, you would have thought should have been working together in harmony to make things better.

 What will they do when there is nothing left for them to sell-give away-expect volunteers to run?

[Reg Smeeton]

I wonder what the disabled people of the town think of Tomlinson in particular?

 A chum of mine who's disabled had a one to one meeting with Tomlinson before the budget, to try and explain to him why cutting funds to some of the most disadvantaged might not be a good idea. Apparently Tomlinson listened politely and then ran out his useful idiot line about, we're all in it together , savings need to made the deficit cut etc.

My mate described Tomlinson as backpfeifengesicht. (look it up)

When IDS resigned he'd changed his mind completely apparently.  Tomlinson or Skinner for local MP? 

[Saxondale]

The tories have all dutifully voted against an enquiry into the panama papers revelations.  My local lickspittle cameron acolyte Michele Donelan did as usual and voted with the party.  266 voted for and enquiry were blocked by 300 tories.

I wonder if that actually reflects the public desire on the subject?  I suspect not.

[horlock07]

The tories have all dutifully voted against an enquiry into the panama papers revelations.  My local lickspittle cameron acolyte Michele Donelan did as usual and voted with the party.  266 voted for and enquiry were blocked by 300 tories.

I wonder if that actually reflects the public desire on the subject?  I suspect not.

But unless we have a referendum on everything that is parliamentary politics, we only get to vote on matters every 5 years and then its only on vague promises in the manifesto. There has been plenty of chance to change to a more representative system but none of the parties want it when they are in power as it potentially will diminish that power... Hence Labour did fuck all to make the system more representative between 97-10 and the Tories did their best to avoid change when we had the referendum!

Its another reason I think that Nationalisation is a bit of a red herring, those industries and companies are not owned by you and I as we have little say in the manner in which they are managed as the only time we would get to achieve change (possibly) is every five years - otherwise we are just funding them with the management having little pressure to act efficiently!

[Arriba]

@Reg. Looked it up as it was new to me.
Reckon your mate had it right.