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« Reply #6735 on: Thursday, December 7, 2023, 10:59:42 » |
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FGR have to replay their 1st round tie v Scarborough due playing a loan player without having obtained the parent club’s permission.
Barnsley were kicked out for fielding an ineligible player.
I thought that was odd. Seemingly whilst both infringements broke the rules, they were 2 'different' rules broken, hence the different punishment. For me if an ineligible player plays or is named in the squad then the punishment should be consistent, regardless whether its an 'innocent' admin error or something done deliberately.
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« Reply #6736 on: Thursday, December 7, 2023, 11:01:34 » |
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I wasn’t really comparing the 2, just stating why each club was treated differently
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« Reply #6737 on: Thursday, December 7, 2023, 11:19:16 » |
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The FA are carrying the can I think for not confirming, hence the reprieve.
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« Reply #6738 on: Thursday, December 7, 2023, 11:21:01 » |
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I wasn’t really comparing the 2, just stating why each club was treated differently
Yeah, I understood. Technically both players were ineligible though, and so whilst there were differences in both cases essentially neither of the players should have been involved, and for me the punishment should have been consistent. However thems the rules I guess.
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« Reply #6739 on: Thursday, December 7, 2023, 11:42:09 » |
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For me if an ineligible player plays or is named in the squad then the punishment should be consistent, regardless whether its an 'innocent' admin error or something done deliberately.
But that's not what the rules say!
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« Reply #6740 on: Thursday, December 7, 2023, 11:57:00 » |
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But that's not what the rules say!
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« Reply #6741 on: Thursday, December 7, 2023, 14:44:09 » |
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Barnsely player was ineliigble full stop
FGR player was eligible to play, but didnt have parent club permission. Thats the difference
Not strictly correct, from Dale Vince... When investigations take place and rulings get announced in football, fans are often left confused as to what actually went on - making them wonder what the hell is happening at their club.
Our recent charge came about after we failed to tell the FA that we had permission from the player's home club to be part of our FA Cup squad. They recognised we had approval for the player - but that we had not told them, which was our mistake. In the grand scheme of things this was an admin error, so we appreciate the FA's acceptance of what happened and their judgement.
The FA ruled that @safc will keep all the money from the gate for this replay, as is right - and we don’t get travel or accommodation expenses (which are normal). Hopefully this means something good can come from this.
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« Reply #6742 on: Thursday, December 7, 2023, 14:47:19 » |
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If that's *it* the only surprise is that it doesn't happen more often. Shocked to hear every other football club is on top of that admin (not least er... ours)
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« Reply #6743 on: Thursday, December 7, 2023, 15:01:52 » |
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The rules are clear: A player on a domestic temporary (loan) transfer (including a player on loan either to or from a Welsh Club that competes in the Competition in the current season) is ineligible to compete in the Challenge Cup Competition unless permission to do so is given by the lending Club in writing (which, for the avoidance of doubt, can include appropriate wording and/or the completion of tick boxes in any loan form) and a copy is received by The Association by the Registration Deadline for that round. Any permissions must clearly state that the player has approval to play in The FA Challenge Cup Competition. A player who is registered on a Scholarship for work experience may play for another Club, subject to written permission being given by the Club that he is registered to and provided that such permission is received by The Association by the Registration Deadline for that round.
And the punishment is clear, though a little subjective on "could not reasonably have known", but common sense prevails: However, where the club satisfies the Professional Game Board that the club (or any of its officers) did not know and could not reasonably have known, even had it made every reasonable enquiry (with the exercise of the utmost caution), that the player was ineligible, the club shall not be removed from the Competition but may still be subject to any other penalty. (e.g. fine, ordered to replay the match)
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« Reply #6744 on: Thursday, December 7, 2023, 15:19:14 » |
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« Reply #6745 on: Thursday, December 7, 2023, 18:56:47 » |
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The FA Cup third round TV picks are dreadful this year
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« Reply #6746 on: Thursday, December 7, 2023, 19:44:53 » |
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The FA Cup third round TV picks are dreadful this year
Aah,the "magic of the FA Cup"! I'm surprised they managed to slip a couple of championship teams in there! What's that the 100th successive Manchester United tie to be televised?
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« Reply #6747 on: Thursday, December 7, 2023, 19:48:20 » |
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The FA Cup third round TV picks are dreadful this year
The problem is that the BBC & ITV don’t get to show live PL games, so when they get live football they always pick the games of the big (fan base) teams
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« Reply #6748 on: Thursday, December 7, 2023, 22:09:08 » |
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The problem is that the BBC & ITV don’t get to show live PL games, so when they get live football they always pick the games of the big (fan base) teams
Yeah fully understand that, should be on the FA to ensure that games get shown across the divisions when they offer the deals out. Unfortunately it's just dull watching the same teams getting selected season after season
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« Reply #6749 on: Friday, December 8, 2023, 09:50:36 » |
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Palace/Everton & Spurs/Burnley are very dull choices but the other 4 games are fair enough.
In all fairness there aren't any other League 1/2 teams at home to PL teams as far as i can see, those sort of games would have been picked. The non league teams all have shit draws (Watford v Chesterfield on the box? no thanks, not for me)
It was a pretty crap 3rd round draw in general
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