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Anyone interested in this one ??.  Pretty late to start a thread but it’s got to be done.
Don’t know what to expect from this one, players out there putting in a shift but just can’t seem to get it together as a team.
FGR Didn’t make it easy for us but this will be a much harder game.   Can’t see past a defeat but would be happy with a point, although not holding my breath.

Creepy 2 Clems saleable assets 1 att: 3,340 (850 disgruntled reds)

2-1 win for us.

Another one for a 2-1 win, 89th minute Kemp winner, Young the other.

They have 2 CBs suspended and Conroy went off injured last game.

Although they got beaten by Franchise last time they played them off the park apparently!

Got to say, Lindsey has done well there when most expected them to be rock bottom.

Like to think New Year may bring a change of fortune.

I think a win,albeit a close one. Is FBT back? If so, I'd like to see this(think Minturn needs a break)
                           Ward
       UGM.        Brewitt.        FBT
Hutton.       Kinsella  Khan.   Shade
                Cain.              Kemp
                          Young

I fink we will lose.

I don’t fink we will score.

I fink they might!

Pre match lost forever in a happy crowd in The Jubilee Oak.
I do wonder if The Cure's unrelenting early gloom was down to spending their formative years in Crawley.

As a fan base we are probably at 2nd or 3rd Cure album levels of misery.
Little Faith remains that's for sure & the joy of 1st Jan 2020 at Plymouth seems a long time ago now.

Five members of the match day 18 from one year ago still remain.
Was thinking whether we'd be better off with Lindsey still in charge. Much of a muchness I suspect, but we are 5 points worse off after 25 games.

Would Conroy, Gladwin & Darcy make the first team now?
The squad would certainly benefit.

A not too difficult quiz question to start the year.
Name the 2 keepers who played for both clubs?

Anyway happy new year to you all, miserable fuckers & the more cheerful alike.
Here's hoping for a better year for the club, both on & off the pitch.

Is there pay on the day?
Kids want to go but I can't see past a defeat at the minute so that'll be another miserable away day

2-1 defeat with Young scoring in front of 3,155 with 691 Town fans there.

One bit of hope for a positive result is that Kemp & Young will want to go out on a high with goals and / or assists.

So I'll go 1-0, Austin, from a pinpoint Hutton cross.

Phil Smith is one

Aye.
The other one has appeared on LSPOD.
Not a huge amount of appearances across 16 odd clubs.

As we all know today is Swindon rejects vs Swindon with them having Kellan Gordon, Dion Conroy, Ben Gladwin, Ronan Darcy,  Scott Lindsey, Jamie Day, Steve Hale & Ricky Mcfarlane on their playing and backroom staff.

We have only won at Creepy twice ever, a 4-0 win with Doyle scoring a hattrick and Yates grabbing the other in 2019 and a 3-0 in 2011 when Kerrouche x2 and Connell grabed the goals.

We have lost our last 2 visits there and in the 10 meetings we have only those 2 wins and Creepy getting 3 and 5 ending as draws.

Lindseys slow plodding passing game should suit our play as it did at the CG they looked almost as bad as FGR when we thrashed them 6-0 earlier in the season when Young got 4 of the goals. No doubt they will be out for revenge.

Jimmy Glass

Wouldn't that be nice!

I’m not sure about this one. My head says a defeat. My heart says a narrow win.

Does anyone remember "Jimmy Glass Was An Alien" who used to post on here? Think he used to work in the ticket office

Correct. Wouldn't expect anything else from a Bob!

Jimmy Glass certainly had his 15 mins of fame from his career.
Decent keeper from what I remember, just fell foul of a manager or two in his time here.

3-1 loss. Lindsey to thump his chest a lot.

Yep, got him on Strava. Mad cunt runs and runs and runs. He's done a marathon in 2:45

Looking at Crawley's squad.

It's not great is it? he's done quite well to have them as high as they are in my opinion.

Jeez,that's Gump like.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCwVaA2WQAA37UD?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)

Unchanged, Kokolo back on the bench, the bench looking that bit stronger each game.

Darcy and Conroy start for them

Is Gladwin injured or is he coming back to town?

Genesini missing today, is he ill, injured or on his way out?

I am guessing that Flynn would rather have Hart on the bench, no idea why though ;)

He was in the video of the team arriving

What on earth is up with FBT??

Conroy, who I can’t say I rated at all when he was here, is bound to have a blinder isn’t he?

Tweaked his hammy didn’t he?

FBT is about a week away from starting.

Thought he was decent meself

He would get into this team currently ahead of any other CB option we have. He always had 1 or 2 mistakes in him each game, but so does Brewitt, Dokes, FBT or Minturn. Its just that often when Conroy made the mistake it ended with us conceding a goal.

Brewitt injured during warm up

Brewitt not starting, injured in the warm up.

Expect Kokolo to start. Maybe Genesini will get a place on the bench now.

Good fucking grief

You can’t make it up…I bet Lindsey is happy

Probably the worst season ever for injuries so far.

Question training methods or just bad luck?

I think there is far too many for it to just be bad luck. It has to come down to training and fitness management surely.

To be fair,we've had a bad few years for injuries,or does it just seem that way?

Maybe it’s the training pitches.

I agree. Can remember Wellens moaning about the amount of injuries we’d get and that was four years ago. Although maybe we notice the injuries more with the smaller squads we tend to have

oh bugger

The pitches at Beaversbrook are terrible. So I’m not surprised.

Would be interesting to see how many and how long players have been out injured this season compared to last and the year before.

It’s not just the injuries - it’s the regular occurrence of them breaking down again soon after resuming

Kokolo starting in place of Brewitt as expected.

Goodbye stream! 😢

Im going crawley 4-2 town 

They've all gone

And back - we’re in purple

Yay!

Darcy looks a bit different!!!

Who are we clapping?

Good break by Dokes but Huttons cross couldnt quite find Young in the box.

I’m OK

 lively start to the match

The fallen

The Cadburys kit.

Yes thats why i deleted the original post :D

I have no idea what you’re on about

Hawes saying their keeper Addai had a few good games against us, I thought he is absolutely shocking every time we have played against him.

Nor me TBH.

The pitch looks an absolute state.

So predictable😡

Too easy 0-1

Too easy

Fuck sake

No audio or video ifollow here

Not good by Ward or Dokes there.

Fine here.

Well, that was shit

Flynn out :pint:

oh good

Fuck me !!

Unmarked at the back post,

What so they do in training..?

2023 defending still.

That was the same goal as FGR scored. Do we not learn anything.

We know its not defending or fitness.

New Year, Same Old Swindon.

Darcy the skinhead with the assist to the striker with Darcy’s old hair!

Do they even practice basic marking/tracking runners? It’s fucking Sunday League.

I doubt it they’ve only got 2 hours a day😁

Its actually impressive how fucking shit we are at defending

14 games without a clean sheet

Its the way we ghost it - Make every defender disappear with ease!

Any new CB isn’t going to stop that.

We dont look too bad in their half, but in our half....different story.

I've watched some shite defendinding in my years of supporting STFC

But this team tops the lot.....

Even worse than primary school defending...

Do they actually train to defend, professional footballers and that is woeful. Virtual carbon copy of the goal fgr scored against us. Plus a striker stood 5 yards out with nobody anywhere near him. Terrible.

Well the rumour going around was Flynn and Hartwell just walked out of training the other week because Adam Hart was demanding his son and co train with the first team.

They've probably checked out and just waiting for a pay out.

0-2

 it's just comical at the moment

0-2 great finish

We look awful in defence, absolutely awful.

We’re beyond redemption

Flynn out. ::)

fucking hell

The bookies are rarely wrong!

We are still 6-2 up on aggregate!

Decent hit to be fair

Excellent! We could lose on aggregate too at this rate!

Get ready for National League

Honestly cannot be fucked with this season anymore.

You have to wonder why Morfuni et al were so keen on Flynn

Mad Gav in the dugout for the next game please…

Ward ball watching, that is a good example of why he is not a no.1. Defending terrible, a good hit yes, but he didn't dive until it was past him..

Did they not open the turnstiles the atmosphere is shite on the radio.

Surely Flynn has to go, at any other club he’d be gone now. The constant shambles at the back can only fall under the managers responsibility.

Flynn out. It’s a clown show at the back.

Bar Kemp, this lot just can't be arsed today, you can see it all over..

That would take a monumental fuck up in fairness, because we’ve just seen how bad FGR are.

The 1st 9 games I thought we played some brilliant attacking entertaining football, but once we got found out we had no plan B and thats what has cost us.

Flynn needs to recognise when a formation will not work and change it to suit rather than sticking to his guns at all costs.

Defensively though we have been pretty shit all season, that should have been rectified early on but wasn't so for that reason its entirely down to Flynn and Clem.

Had enough of Flynns 1 dimensional tactics and defensive ineptitude now though and want a change of direction on and off the pitch.

Michael Standings company/ex company are his agents - I will let you work the rest out.

Sack him now.

…or a massive points deduction.

I think we are 14 points from guaranteed safety with 20 games left to play…

Yeah, or that.

We are terrible though, no denying that. If we didn’t have the start we had we would be fucked.

In fairness - I think we were all happy enough with Flynn’s appointment.

…hasn’t got as expected and the complete lack of improve & desire to change anything has really left us with no choice but to move on.

Based on what happened with him at Walsall it’s gone exactly as expected…

I wonder if Clemente has made the trip and is watching this shit..

 can we keep blaming every manager which has been the theme in the last 4 years or so

it's the type of game. where... where... Ronan Darcy has been effective than Dan Kemp

So, you called this outcome last May?

Even if Morfuni wanted to sack him I very much doubt he has the money to do so.

This season? This club until the cunts have gone.

Rotten to the core.

Really? 😳

All have the same agent along with a lot of our players as well I think.

Jobs for the boys until the gravy train is dry.

Word gets around. What manager would want to come into this shit storm.

Flappy keeper.

I wasn’t enamoured by his appointment no and to be fair Walsall fans did say this is exactly what would happen as he was sacked after something like 1 win in 21 last season.

…many of the ones currently unemployed I’d imagine

here here this has gone on far to long.

I’d love to know what Clem has to say about presiding over one of the worst seasons in the clubs history.

No.

Its like stinking of shit because you haven't changed clothes or washed for about a month and then changing your socks and hoping it makes a difference.

On this showing it is very likely to be out worst ever season.

Whilst this isn’t ideal, shouldn’t Hart be training with the first team if he’s regularly on the first team bench?!

Kemp signs off with a very poor miss with his wrong foot.

No idea if its true but heard it from a few places.

Will say that this is due to 30 yrs of mis management

I get not being enamoured - that’s for enough.

Obviously now with 6 months hindsight, his tenure at Swindon has gone exactly as it did at Walsall but back in May there was just as much possibility it would have gone similar to Newport & Walsall was the anomaly.

I’ve lost patience with him now but certain didn’t think the current situation was a foregone conclusion back in May

Austin hits the bar with a header.

HT 0-2

Not very good.

Chest-thump-ageddon inbound....

That is the understatement of 2024, so far. 

Stating the obvious but no way of changing it up either.

TBF most people did think it was a foregone conclusion once the transfer window slammed shut, even when we were doing well there were lots of voices saying that we will drop once the inevitable injuries kick in.  And let's not forget, unless we are told the truth, Flynn is 100% responsible for player signings and won't sign players unnecessarily, quality over quantity and all that.

I am not saying that Flynn should go, but now he has his long contract I would like to hear him get off of the company bandwagon once and a while

... but guaranteed that Vince will chuck money at saving their league status, Clem&co will continue to asset strip and employ their mates.

Dead people

I'm done until something changes. Fuck em.

It is the helplessness of our situation that is so depressing.

We have been absolutely captured by these bastards.

At least they are saving me £200 in just January alone  :)

With a ST I feel obliged to go.

I'm gonna be all "told you so". I said at the time he was the "worst possible option". Got slated a bit for it I remember

Worst possible option was a stretch but yeah I was more positive about his appointment and been disappointed

Boy am I glad we let them go this season. Choosing games has turned out to be a bonus and massive money saver. As for next season?

Dont bet on that.

I've been out. Looking forward to the comeback!

Khan leaves a foot in on Darcy.

If you think this is bad, imagine what the Colchester game will be like.  Austin up front on his own for 90 mins, Cain in the Kemp role and the rest of the team the same, literally zero goal threat apart from the occaisional Austin headed chance..

The rest of the team won't be the team same - Kokolo will be out of contract!

Contenders for ‘Turd of the day’?

Quite a few contenders methinks!

0-3

Architects of our own demise.

Jesus Christ

Good point, Shade at LWB then so even less attacking threat, though not much less

Hes been shite today!

Really lucky, but their #30 had approximately 10m of space on all sides to take the shot

Lucky deflection, but no one reacted from our side.

fucking shit

TBF he looked well offside on the replay. Ward didnt bother coming out for it too.

The half time bollocking went well then🤣

We are making Creepy look good, how fucking shit are we.

On track for the 6 nil response

Something absolutely rotten going on. This isn’t just down to poor players.

Sheridan vibes everywhere you look

Can we swap Flynn for Lindsey!

Remember Roland Darcy set up the opener, shit seems to good for us.

Rotten to the core, club, management, owner(s) and team.

Let’s chuck Obodoo on and see if he can at least run around and press Crawley

It might at least put up his selling price in January.

McEachran and Cain coming on

We need a clear out in the boardroom, but short term, get Flynn the fuck away from this team. He’s coached and set up our pathetic squad so poorly, repeating the same mistakes week in week out. Fuck off.

Well if the plan is to slow the game down and pass backwards more - that’s a great set of subs

I think thats how many of us think TBH.

This is like watching a terminally ill person towards the end, and everyone - players, management, ownership and trust/fans are just quietly watching it happen, a sad state of affairs

I think your sentence starts to fall apart around the word 'plan'

Still our fans won't make any noise against the management or owner, or noise full stop.

Might work - if we didn’t have to take anybody off. Always good for corners . . . Oh!

We are so fucked this season. Anyone who thinks Austin adds anything to this team is beyond blind. Playing with 10 men every match is a pretty bad start when the other 10 are not that good!

We have given up on even going for 60/40 balls, this is utterly dreadful.

Completely forgot we had a game today, just seen the score and wish I hadn't remembered

Hope Clem is ready for 7000+ home crowds.

Austin would add more as a CB than he does as a ST.

I’d genuinely try it. Seriously.

He adds something at set plays. In open play I agree with you. Certainly in terms of reputation (and presumably wage, but I don't know) vs achievement he's been an absolutely shocking signing, which is a huge shame.

God almightly I just saw we have another 30 mins of this shit left to play today.

Tools well and truly downed. A few of these are obviously off and are looking after themselves.

This has a similar feeling to the MKD away game in the last relegation season.

Because of all the Clem cucks.

This is even more disappointing than during the Sheridan days, and that was bad enough.

Not a chance, he would be just as shit. He can't run, he cant pass, he cant get near the ball. He barely wins a header. A complete joke of a player.

And as of tomorrow, he is our only 'fit' forward.

Can’t actually believe the contempt some of these are showing for those who have travelled. No intent when on the ball and completely bottling any 50/50’s or balls which could be won. Surely some of these have moves lined up (somehow) in January if they’re showing this lack of interest

Decent save by the flapper keeper.

Nice move that from us, ends in a good save from Cain. Kemp and Hutton the key men, our most creative players unsurprisingly.

Its certain on a par if not worse as you say.

How can you get behind a team that doesn't  help it self with  week in week out defensive mistakes that should of been nipped in the bud by our management  team .talk about shafting the fans this season the manager is out of his depth but as usual our ownwers bury there heads. :zzz: :no:

Not just his head I’d like to bury

Under any previous regime, even Power, Flynn gets the sack at this point.

Yes, the club is an absolute shitshow but I’ve never seen a more poorly set up XI, with the same basic failings on show week after week. Pathetic.

We're exactly the same as Flynn's Walsall side. He isn't a good manager for big clubs with expectant fan bases. Fuck off Flynn.

ive got a mini digger in the back yard. :pint:

Flynn should be sacked. I made a post a while ago about this. Yes injuries, yes small squad. But he has failed to correct simple mistakes, change tactics, and not a single player has got better. He did well to get Kemp in, and got very lucky with Young. But people like FBT and McEachran who most people thought were decent have gone backwards this season.

Flynn out.

Digger for digger. I like it.

Not sure which ones you mean?

I just find it quite odd the whole Flynn flexibility thing. The story is that he played the way Newport did because they had to due to the pitch - which shows a degree of pragmatism. But apparently he now has no pragmatism at all? It's like he's not the same guy at all.

So we need about 12 new players and a new manager and complete coaching setup!

Should we plough the pitch to force his hand?!

The really worrying thing for me is the one that I think *are* off are the ones who look to me like they're still trying. It's the ones who probably couldn't get another club who seem to be having shockers...

choose your bucket :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Just in case it has slipped anyone’s mind. We need to win a minimum of 14 games from the next 20 to get in the play offs.

Probably realised it’s better financially to join a club, work 6-9 months, get sacked, get the pay off & go again rather than staying at the same club for years.

How many to stay up?

I have some real sympathy for Austin. It must be tough not to be able to do the things you used to be able to do but he’s genuinely completely shot. It’s really sad to see.

We get a huge slice of luck and Young squanders from inside the six yard box. Real shame he didn't get a goal to remember him by.

and someone to pick up the cones. :D

With or without any points deduction :D

Still two.

Can’t see us winning that many!

14 points from 20 games to guarantee it

Sheridan last 14 games W4 D1 L9
Flynns last 14 games W3 D2 L9 (including losing today)

Young either buries everything or can’t hit a barn down with a rocket launcher.

Why let a manager have a window if you’re thinking of sacking him

Sheridan was in L1 and wasn't shipping goals at the astonishing rate Flynn is.

It has been said before but any self respecting Chairman would have had Flynn marched off the premises by the time Aldershot scored their seventh goal.

It's only us thinking of sacking him, not the owners remember

That's far too much common sense for this game.

Prob only us thinking of sacking him!

Oh God! Am I becoming you! 😂

Wrexham scored 3 goals in 1st half injury time against Barrow. 9,11 and 14  ???

I feel bad for you :D

Keeper seemed surprised to have saved that from Kemp

100%

I think Minturn's talent banks shut down on that run

Don't they always?

’Mongo run!’

Hawes said that Flynn shouting at the players could be heard through 2 shut doors.

I have a feeling he has lost the dressing room, just a feeling I have.

Whilst our squad is poor, it’s not nearly as poor as our goals conceded column states.

As someone said the other day, no player could defend effectively in this system. There’s not even an attempt to set up the defence to succeed. Sorry Flynn, time to go.

I find it hard to believe anyone on our staff could successfully shut a door.

In one ear out the other😁

There isn’t a system - that’s the problem. He hasn’t got a scooby.

True that.

At the final whistle, Kemp and Young will be thinking, thank fuck that is over..  and i am not talking about the game

he lost that 20 games ago.

Well, there appears to be fuck all in between.

The way he has dug people out in post match interviews tells me he has no clue about leadership and man management.

Sawdust!

Its almost amusing because we have a back 5, and 2 holding midfield players and still can't defend!

That is a brilliant retort.

Back 5  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Exactly that.

Crawley have been bang average but they’re significantly better than us. Embarrassing.

If the ref plays that advantage it's a clear pen seconds later, for all it matters.

The comeback is on

I miss Dan Kemp already. Adieu, sweet prince.

I think I called this around the Crewe home game, that we don't have any "defensive" players.  We have people playing in roles with the word back/defender in them, but they do not enjoy the dirty work of being a defender.  Minturn & Brewitt like a one on one challenge, but very little else that is required.  Everyone wants to be a ball player first.  My description after that game was that our defence looked as limp as a rich tea biscuit that had been left in the cup for 30 seconds.  It's not improved since then.  You cannot set-up the way we do, with the players we have and expect to maintain any sort of form - the goals against are just killing any chance of that.

Fuck this team.

Sack the board.

Kemp great finish, he will do well wherever he ends up this week.

It’s sad when you have to keep an eye on the FGR, Sutton & Salford scores :D

 farewell kemp

Spot on.

I'm genuinely tempted to get myself to Beversbrook with a pair of binos and a directional microphone to see what on earth they are doing there.

…you think a professional team are going to concede 3 goals purely in injury time….as if….

Get a drone :D

Thankyou mr kemp the only good thing to of happened  to us this season.

FT 1-3

Utterly pathetic, fuck off now Flynn, do the decent thing and walk before you are sacked.

You have been weighed, you have been measured and you have been found wanting. Motivational skills of a slug and tactically clueless.

Kemp and Young....thanks for the memories and goals, when you have been good you have both been very very good. Kemp....outstanding.

One carrying missiles!

I suspect someone is nervously checking whether that 3 year contract has a break clause in. I wonder how many goals we could concede over that remaining 2.5 years of Flynn and Hatswell.

 :clap: :clap:

New owner
New CEO
New manager, assistant and coaching set up
New squad from top to bottom

Phoenix club doesn't look the worst option to be honest. Gotta choose between that and properly kicking the fuck off to get the crooks gone.

 :D

I will happily pop my vote in for Kemp as player of the season despite only playing up to January. A very good example of what a pro footballer should behave like. Head and shoulders above anyone else.

Enough is enough.
Time for a change.

Gav Gunnings Red ‘n White Army…

And it is decisions like that one that show the club is either being run by incompetent people, or pure financial scammers.  There was no need for it, the performances didn't warrant it, nobody was after him and his contract wasn't about to expire next month.

I think Gav would shake things up and get the players organised.

You'd hope by the time we hit the National League South they might start drying up...

Sick of this

Is that Kemp going over to the fans and saying goodbye?

Lindsey is lapping up the love from the Crawley faithful. love to see his post match interview .

he's done very well there tbf

Correct. Truly bizarre and can only be related to skulduggery of some nature in my opinion.

Manager in happy with win against former club shock, how dare he….

If I was scoring that many goals, I’d expect my manager to be competent enough to set a team up to get a clean sheet every now and again.

Something needs to change and very soon quickly. Flynn should be out of the door tonight but we know that won’t happen.

Sadly even if Flynn does go, they’ll piss the January window away taking 4 weeks to replace him like last season

  good point - I didn't think that he shouldn't be

"After an extensive search we have identified Wayne Hatswell as the man to take the club forward on a 32 year contract."

But then who would manage our loans?

…that’s fine if we get 4 weeks of GavandMildenball…

We’ll recall them all…

Please refer to the line under my name on this one.....

Well,however dire that was,and it was,we still had more and better chances than them. I stand by my opinion that he was the worst possible choice as manager from the names that were bandied about at the time.He's always been a one dimensional manager,completely incapable of changing things when it's going badly. He'll say yet again that we "have to stop giving away avoidable goals" then do nothing about it. Not that anyone else would turn us into world heaters but Flynn has definitely overseen several players going backwards, especially Khan and McEachran

14 shots, 9 on target

They had 3 and all went in

Flynn’s agent is? Club can’t give money directly so Flynn gets an extension and the agent/agency get money for another x years. It’s ‘laundering’ or ‘washing’ money legitimately.

This is getting reminiscent of Sheridan/Power.

Cunt of an owner that won't sack the manager as he doesn't give a fuck about anything other than fleecing us and a shite manager who has completely lost the players that won't have the decency to resign.

Beginning to hope Standing gets shafted in his court case.

So what is Lindsey bleating about then? We won on box entries.

Kemp is the only STFC player to score in the last 6 games - since Austin scored at Accrington

What a fucking surprise. Flynn "we're too easy to score against". FUCKING DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT"

Did he just say he’s defended them in the media as much as he can?

I was all for Flynn as manager, but I’ve realised that’s simply because I liked him as a guy and didn’t think we could get anyone better.

I was wrong.

That game aside, it's all Kemp and Young back to Aldershot on Nov 4th.

Fair enough mate

former STFC player 😭

Flynn is a prick. Takes absolutely no blame whatsoever for this shambles again. He's Sheridan 2.0. Can't stand him.

The only way he could gain any respect from me is if he walked now.

Andrew Hawes gives him every chance to not come off as an arrogant, delusional wanker but he never takes them.

Flynn:
- Not good enough
- Finishing was poor
- Decision making
- Second best first half
- Actually had some good chances
- The goals we gave away....nowhere near good enough
- A lot of them need to look at their performances and evaluate what they are going to get out of the game
- Concede 50 goals: Too open at times. Too easy to get crosses in. Players free in the box. Lack of desire. Understanding of the game. You can look at a whole lot of things!
- Goalscoring: Today we created some good chances. How Young missed Flynn doesn't know. Should have had a penalty. Cain could have scored. Not dressing it up, we weren't good enough today. Too easy to score against
- Brewitt injury didnt help. Didnt want to start Kokolo (especially in that position) as he has been ill. But adrenaline should have got him through
- A few on that pitch quite frankly weren't at the standard required
- Needs new personnel with a better mentality and a better work ethic
- Flynn's job to try to attract new players and improve the squad
- The injuries have not helped.
- Has tried to back players in the press, but there are certain aspects of that that has nothing to do with injuries. Very disappointed
- Squad number fatigue?: Not been ideal with 5 CBs out for a few weeks.
- FBT out: He is a senior lad and gives natural balance so we can create more attacks as well
- Everything that could go wrong has gone wrong
- Professional pride: Orsi could have done anything he wanted today. He looked a Championship player. If I was one of the defenders I would be taking that personally
- Echoes of Walsall?: Yes, its tough. Its hard with injuries. You have to try to work hard. Bring players in to strengthen the squad
- Performance made something snap in you?: Yes, Flynn can say that now that the window is open. Flynn has chance to bring players in now. But its not just Flynn saying it. The club captain and vice captain has just said that in the dressing room.
- They have had some home truths! Its got to change soon!
- There is a lot of improvement needed
- If they are not up for it, they will have a very short career!
- Should know more about ins when he gets on the bus
- Kemp and Young going back to parent clubs. They will be a big miss for us, especially Kemp
- A lot of them in there could learn something from Dan Kemp. He is what a professional should be. Work ethic and desire. He'll be a big miss
- We have almost got one player in. Hoping for 2-3 more by saturday
- Looking at incomings straight through the spine. Want to change the mentality. Need to change the mentality of near enough all of them. Need experience ones and ones with right attitude to influence those younger ones who think they can coast through as a pro footballer
- GK is a position Flynn is looking at, but they have to be better than Ward. Won't sign a GK for the sake of it

 it looks like 2024 will be a year to remember

How Flynn is still in a job is beyond me

Oh wait- someone extended his contract!

The team hearing home truths from Charlie Austin after the way he has performed this season is absolutely hilarious

Spot the difference. Flynn or

We have to stop them getting crosses in? Seriously? Maybe have the wing backs play wing back then, and not level with the front 2 so they have to recover 80 yards to defend.

Not picking people up in the middle? It’s because your centre backs get pulled all over the shop into wide areas. Go and have a look at the Forest Green goal. Brewitt was covering left back, and Minturn left upfield, so when the cross came in, our “back 3”
consisted of UGM and Kinsella!

Saying that we miss Blake-Tracey’s attacking balance sums it all up! He is delusional.

same old shit boreing  fuck off.

Since October 3rd

L Notts 1-3
L Bradford 0-1
L Reading 0-5
W Newport 2-0
D Salford 2-2
L Gills 0-1
L MK 2-3
L Aldershot 4-7 (7-0 down)
L Colchester 1-3
L Stockport 2-4
D Harrogate 1-1
L Exeter 0-1
W Mansfield 2-1 (last minute winner)
W Accrington 4-3 (almost threw away 4-0 lead)
L Wimbledon 0-4
L Barrow 0-3
L Tranmere 1-2
L Wrexham 0-1
W FGR 2-1
L Crawley 0-3

P 20 W4 D2 L14
F 24 A 48

he needs look at himself long and hard hes been bloody awful. :crash:

It all started going wrong from that shit backheel Kemp did at kick off v Notts county. I blame Kemp

Hawes:
- Flynn's frustration with the current squad was palpable
- Two players signed by Flynn have scored 28 goals in Young and Kemp. UGM has been a visible defender. Kinsella has settled in midfield
- There are a lot of players he has inherited from the analytic decision making of the previous regime from last year that ended up mid-table. We are mid table again. Where do you put the blame this year? Manager? Players?
- There was work going on in the background. There were a number of calls floating around the interview ahead of the game
- Flynn has a 3 year deal. 2.5 years left. Wondered whether there would be a shifting on of elements of the squad. Maybe moulding the future is what this season is about?
- 13 league games without a clean sheet: UGM and FBT have played in most of those.
- Austin and FBT had their say at the end of the game.
- Flynn didnt hold back at half time according to the steward near the dressing room. More evidence that today is a watershed day and patience with the dressing room has been lost
- Chairman: Has been there today, Wrexham, Tranmere and FGR. Has been speaking to Flynn after each game.
- Seems Chairman is backing his man
- How many new faces is radical? Need a minimum of 6 to build the squad, stabilise this year and look towards next year. Radical could end up being in double figures!
- Give Scott Lindsay a lot of credit. Only just survived last year and has recruited from the fringes of the football league to put together a competitive team.
- Swindon keep cycling through managers and we keep failing. Just like England with the 'golden generation'.

That final point is an important one I think

The club is lost, floundering around untethered. There is no light at the end of the tunnel as we stand.

There is nothing to commend.

Sorry, it’s a bit fair fetched the blame the data analytic recruitment of last season on us being this shite this season.

Hutton, Khan & Shade are probably the only first team regulars recruited under that model. Cain as well I guess. Hutton has his strengths & weakness and whilst Khan hasn’t been blameless he’s hardly been the worst offender. Shade has been hit & miss.

FBT never fit the model. RHM was bought in by Lindsey himself. McEachran & Brewitt by Morris.

Of course - the main & obvious recruitment related thing from last season (that is still hurting us this season) is we have good attacking wing backs who can’t defend. That does not mean Flynn has to play fucking wing backs does it? Don’t do it, change formation or bring in other wing backs?

…and of course we’ve just had Darcy waltz through our back line - a player not only identified by the analytic model but one we also bombed out…

Having not heard the exact quote, that Golden Generation point is risible.

I really rate Andrew Hawes but I'd love to see BBC Wilts doing some journalism on this football club.

When have they ever called out the shady goings on, the ex criminals etc etc?

We are being systematically run into the ground and to suggest it is because we have been chopping and changing managers is mendacious.

I’d also argue the model wasn’t the problem last season per say.

It was the rigidity we followed the model with. That recruitment strategy needed to be used for 40-50% of our recruitment rather than the 95% of it we did. In isolation the players weren’t/aren’t that bad but we never recruited the seasoned experienced pros to glue that team together…

This

Also changing manager every six months is not the answer.

I've booked a trip to the tip this Saturday, and I'll still probably see less crap than I do at the CG.

Think Colchester have lost 8 of their last 9.

It will be 8 out 10 after Saturday

Is it? I can't for the life of me think how there is any correlation. Just sounds like bollocks.

The Sheridan relegation season was different as it seemed from the outset to be planned for - and brilliantly delivered by Sheridactyl.

This season is just pure shite - born out of ineptitude from top to bottom.

See I disagree with that.
We made some good signings on paper in that window that suggest we wanted to stay up.
Mark Travers, Kieran Freeman, recalling Twine, granted the management was shit but some of the signings on paper weren’t.

Hang on, hang on!

Hawes was providing discussion points. He was saying that we are mid table again. He was saying that this could be because we still have the same nucleus from the previous failed regime or perhaps it is down to the manager. But the fact that the manager has been given a long term deal suggests that the chairman has more faith in him than he does in the squad that was assembled last year. It would seem that Clem is backing Flynn to build for the long term.

The point about England and the golden generation, was that England seemingly had a lot of talent but kept chopping and changing managers. England subsequently didn’t reach its potential. So, Hawes was suggesting that we shouldn’t be too surprised if we keep failing if we keep changing managers. He was NOT saying that we should keep Flynn.

This. Was pathetic with Shaun Hodgetts and Power as well.

I’m not sure it’s even factually accurate.

Sven had 3 international tournaments.

McClaren didn’t qualify so rightly sacked.

Capello got 4 years.

Hardly chopping and changing.

Just a bizarre comparison.

Yeah, doesn't make any sense at all.

It seems that we are doomed to fail under the current regime lead by the former Messiah from down under.  We can chop and change managers but whoever comes in are on a hiding to nothing.  

Now that makes sense.

England’s downfall was trying to player their best XI players rather than the best team.
Shifting England’s best CM out wide to accommodate England’s most overrated bottle job CM - was a choice…

Not remotely like the issues we are facing at SN1.

Just can’t comment after that toothless shit show.
Another wasted journey.
The away end like a funeral congregation. So passive and accept this shite and that starts with the bloke that saved the Club.

Fucked off with STFC. It’s dying and that hurts.

Honestly why do you go?
Not a dig, but you say the same thing every week, if it made me feel like that I’d knock it on the head, even if only for a few weeks.

OK chaps. I give up.

.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw-VbX4H-Cs&pp=ygUPY3Jhd2xleSB0b3duIGZj

He's done a good job for them this year.

It’s hard to disagree🤣

Who is the bottle job? I assume you mean one of Lampard or Gerrard?

Gerrard.

"Bottle job"

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A bottle job that would get into probably every premier league starting 11, in every season past, present and future. Interesting that you view him like that.

.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwLmvPVqX6Q

That's Utd fans for ya..

United fan - behave.

Don’t have & never have had a ‘second team’ or a ‘premier league team’ unlike the plastic scousers who have turned up.

Calm down.

I know it’s not a dig Mate.
Even I question the sanity why I still do it, always have I guess.

I've not trawled through the whole thread so apologies if this has already been mentioned but was anyone else surprised to see 'Darcy' playing at centre forward for them and even wearing the no.9 shirt? Same height, same build, same hair style complete with alice band.

Even when Mrs Taylor pointed out that the bloke wearing no.10 with the skinhead haircut had Darcy on the back of his shirt, I said in all seriousness and without irony...."Well what are the chances of them having two players called Darcy?"....I was that convinced that 'fake' Darcy was in fact 'real' Darcy...it was only when his picture came up on the big screen with his name underneath after scoring the first goal that I realised my error  :doh:

That was the one remotely light moment in an otherwise dire and miserable afternoon. Agree with every word you say Dukey...I can't imagine I'll be going again this season. Just awful....

I turned my stream on as they were lining up for the minute silence.
I wondered if Darcy was playing so studied the Crawley players there and it did take a second to work out Darcy was the skinhead and fake Darcy was not Darcy.

Imagine the furore last season if we'd played D'Arcy at wing back!🙂

The highlight was that little dog in the away end.
Clearly Swindon because he never wagged his tail once.

What a miserable afternoon but always good to see you 👍⚽️

There was furore last season when we played Darcy anywhere….!

Haha! Yeah, I'd forgotten about him, he was a cutie...his name was Bobby  :)

Nice to see you as always Duke... 8)

To be fair, that was because he wasn't really that good and we did sign Kemp on loan to fill the main role he used to cover.  For half a season it has been a good decision, the loan bit may even that out if we end up thinking Aguiar is the answer to any questions we have.

Kemp was bought in to fill the hole left by Williams.

That's what I thought.Very good replacement with the disadvantage that unlike Williams,he wasn't ours

So many holes!

A L2 mid table battle. We lost. We were poor
Yes it hurts but for me, nowhere near the seemingly suicidal levels of some who should know better. Yet.

Two managers a year won't work either unless we get a proper derisable budget expert in.
The guy from Accrington maybe or whoever got Morecambe promoted to L1.

Yeah, the manager & coaching staff need to shoulder some blame but come on, 7 down against Aldershot, let's face it this squad isn't fit for purpose & needs to be dismantled big time.

Thought that relatively minor surgery would be enough after last season. I was wrong.

Surprised we too the number we did to Crawley, even more than Millwall took to Bristol  :-[

Always read your level headed posts and equally you watch the dross with your own eyes.
What is frightening is the game, no matter what is 11 v 11 and I am struggling to see how much better these players are against other Clubs with less fanbase than ours.
That scares me.

All about January for me, the rumour mill on the terraces yesterday in full flow.
We are simply in free full and need a few players back. Losing Kemp and Young will hit us hard.

No faith in Clem and want to be proved wrong.
Year on year budget cuts, poor decision making has delivered this shit show and I am not surprised.
Ironically our 2 best players were from clubs in the same league deemed surplus to requirement, both clubs not challenging. Reality is calling and we are what we are.

Superb fans and potential.
The flickering light but dimming.

Good rumours, bad rumours, a mix?

Not asking for specifics because as soon as you mentoin them you get beat of for being wrong.

Don’t even waste your time Mate, from selling the Club, to a major investor that Clem wants in, to a big budget January, already been given a big budget but Flynn didn’t want to use it, other investors wanting the club etc, etc.

It’s a pile of shit and the club is a shambles on and off the pitch.

No rumours are factual and until we see anything official suggest it’s business as usual.
Only my opinion but it’s likely to get worse before better.

Cheers, always interested in the rumours - but proof before belief is the way to go!

Forgot to post this (well couldnt be bothered really).

Att: 3,636 (548 Town).

Probably the lowest we’ve taken there.

Nope, took 316 there in 2013 and 439 in 2018.

Did we get 2 red cards once v Crawley?

Yes, Diagrouga and James Dunne in the same game

Yeah what a game that was. 2-0 up and Crawley equalised with a 100th minute penalty after Matt Taylor hit the bar in the 99th

I was at that game. I tend to pick them, I was also at the Charlton away game when they equalised with 9 men. Thank fuck I moved out of London and won't be seeing Broadfield (or whatever sponsored stadium it's called nowadays) any time soon!

Yeah, as a "Kent Red" I was at that Charlton game,Sam Sodje and Deon Burton red carded and Llera scored on 90. Deja vu,Colchester 2022!

Out of interest, what % of people here go to games v watch on streamed version as opposed to not watch at all?

recently home games I've probably been about half go to, half stream. I'm now not doing either.

Got an ST, live in Swindon, may as well go to hone.

Been to 3 away I think, it's nice to do it with the youngest now he's interested. mostly streamed though

I wondered if there was no stream, as it was when I was a kid, how it would pan out.  I would go but rarely stood in the Townend. It was a no brainer! It feels like loads on a match day are streaming, even those that have contributed 1000's of contributions. If there were no streaming, would we loose them altogether or increase attendances!!!

Historically I think that the TEF was primarily a place where out of town supporters could gather & hold forth.

Not sure about more recent times but probably a goodly number still stream from afar or not so far in some cases.
It's the frequency that might vary.

It's one of those periods where closing a browser is probably more preferable to marching down the steps of the DRS early.

A follow up question would be how many pay for Ifollow and how many watch on a dodgy stick :D

I stopped going regularly after the Flitcroft season. Started streaming during covid and now have an official ifollow season ticket. Maybe go to 1 or 2 live games a season these days - much prefer watching it at home now

that's a real shame, it makes me worry if they open up the 3pm Saturday slot

this isn't a dig. Honestly it's your time and money.

Can't be arsed to watch on screen, definitely one of the few things I'd rather do in person. The whole day though, meet up, beer etc.

Work hours & family life means it is x100000 times easier to put the football on the tv than to actually go to games.
A lot cheaper too - added bonus when I watch it I’m not surrounded by Town fans talking rubbish.

I don’t like watching games on TV, watched home games during lockdown but didn’t watch any away games.

If I stopped actually going to games I wouldn’t replace that with ifollow

This isn't a statement I thought I would be making very often, but I'm kind of in agreement with DiV.

Moving out of London means getting to (home games at least) matches is more of an effort and having to now commute into London 3 times a week means that the last thing I want to do on a Saturday is more travelling. I'll watch the game on tv, which doesn't always work very well, but that doesn't irk me too much. It's not just the lost time either, as DiV also alluded to, it can be an expensive day out. I still enjoy my visit to the odd games with my dad, but we've both lost interest over the years. When we first started going quite regularly there was a good group of us that used to meet up, but due to death and lost interest it's really only me and him now. We try and get to a game once every 6 weeks depending on weekend plans.

I think I mentioned before that the pandemic flicked a bit of a switch in my head and I didn't actually miss when there was no football on, it provided an opportunity to do other things. I still look forward to the Swindon games, that will never change, but i'm just not as bothered if we win, lose or draw as I used to be, it's out of my control so I don't sweat it so much. This puts me in a huge minority, but I don't mind that, each to their own.

Wobbly Bob's comment is also spot on. I signed up on here when I lived in Edinburgh or Luxembourg I think and it was a great way of keeping in touch with other STFC fans who were closer to home. I've never had an addictive personality, but oddly this place is the closest thing to something I've become addicted to, which is a testament to the people who have posted here over the years. 

As I’ve spent 14 of the last 20 years living outside of the UK I’ve still, just about, got some umph about wanting to attend. I find viewing on iPTV a hard watch - don’t know why.

We shall not be renewing our STs unless something dramatic happens.

I think age plays a part.

Message boards aren’t the used media anymore - the only people who tend to use them are those that started using them when they were the only way to talk about whatever subject with like minded people.

I expect most of us signed up in our teens / early 20 which would have made most of students and / or relatively new in the work force.

20+ years later and we are late 30s / early 40s and will have a combination of careers, mortgages, spouses & kids - unless your DMR & you just have an extensive criminal record.

All of which impacts the affordability & time needed to get to games.

I also expect with how easily accessible content from any of the big clubs in world football is now a days - that a lot of our kids (and future generations in general) will pick their team rather then being lumbered with one. Plus again, it’s way too bloody expensive for families.

When I was younger STFC was my life. It’s all I really did. My mood would be completely dictated by Swindon’s results. When we won great, I’d be happy till the next game. When we lost I’d be in a shitty mood till we won again. It became an addiction, a really shitty unfulfilling addiction that consumed me. All my mates were meeting their future partners, settling down, having kids & I was going to Walsall away (again) fully expecting us to lose (again) not remotely looking forward to it (again) and having the day put cost north of £50 (again)

Thankfully appointing Paul Hart was the straw that broke the camels back and I stopped going.
One of the best decisions I ever made in life.

If we weren't in the state we were in, I'd be choosing going to the games over watching at home 9 times out of 10. Early this season being able to ignore the off the field issues for a bit with it being good on the pitch and before Clem completely shit the bed, I was reminded that I love it.

Sitting at home just doesn't compare. I'd probably only chose the odd Tuesday night game from home over going if things were good just really down to the convenience of getting home from work and getting home after, etc.

Now I'm not even turning my firestick on to watch it from home for free.

I'm not a season ticket holder but have been to more than half the home games this season I would say.
Like many, i'm finding it hard to get any enthusiasm to go currently and probably won't go tomorrow.

Having said that, my 7 1/2 year old lad has really got into football this season, both playing and watching and has loved going to the games, especially the Junior Robins room, where he can meet a couple of players pre-match, and there's loads to do in there too.
Caroline and the rest of the team have done a cracking job in there.

It's good to hear that the kids are enjoying going to games, they are the future.

I like watching football.

I like being a supporter of my home town football club.

I like having a season ticket.

I like going to away games.

The crapness or otherwise of STFC on or off the pitch doesn’t influence the above.

We’ve all been like you🤣

I'm the same (apart from the season ticket)