New Manager thread part (96837494)

[Processed Beats]

I doubt Flynn signs the players. Few clubs operate like that these days. Most have a DoF-type role who does all of that stuff. Fairly certain we've had that model for years now.

[Riddick]

I doubt Flynn signs the players. Few clubs operate like that these days. Most have a DoF-type role who does all of that stuff. Fairly certain we've had that model for years now.

We did. We probably still do. However it was explicitly said the model was different this season and Flynn was in charge of recruitment, with Russell and others assisting. How true that is, who knows.

But our DoF has no qualifications for such a role anyway!

[theakston2k]

I doubt Flynn signs the players. Few clubs operate like that these days. Most have a DoF-type role who does all of that stuff. Fairly certain we've had that model for years now.

That’s another massive issue though isn’t it. There’s obviously the Kiely/Standing angle but our DoF is Jamie Russell whose experience is academy coaching, another square peg in a round hole at the club.

[welshred]

That’s another massive issue though isn’t it. There’s obviously the Kiely/Standing angle but our DoF is Jamie Russell whose experience is academy coaching, another square cheap peg in a round hole at the club.

[Batch]

We can say it’s stupid timing but is it really?

Yes, yes it is. Massively.

HTH.

[DiV]

Yes, yes it is. Massively.

HTH.

Why?

Forget the window.
Flynn doesn’t find & sign the players.

[Nemo]

Why would Clem pay Flynn off for a new owner?

Perhaps amicable discussions were 'Mike, would you like triple your pay off but the club only has to pay you in 9 months time'?

Who knows with this lot!

[Boeta]

That’s another massive issue though isn’t it. There’s obviously the Kiely/Standing angle but our DoF is Jamie Russell whose experience is academy coaching, another square peg in a round hole at the club.

Dan Ashworrh went from academy management to the best DoF in the country. It's not necessarily an issue.

But, Russell is there because Kiely wants/needs a puppet.

[Batch]

Why?

Forget the window.
Flynn doesn’t find & sign the players.

I mean that's a fair point.

I've suspected for a while that players and style of play are dictated from above. It was pointed out 3 at the back has been Flynn's MO at previous clubs so could be wrong.

If this really is Kiely doing recruitment then we are all we will ever be. Pray for a sale outside the brown circle.

[theakston2k]

Dan Ashworrh went from academy management to the best DoF in the country. It's not necessarily an issue.

But, Russell is there because Kiely wants/needs a puppet.

But that’s an exception, he has loads of different roles before actually becoming a DoF/Sporting Director.

DoF is a really important role in lower leagues especially in terms of continuity. Russell doesn’t seem to tick any boxes, just like most other people involved with running the club to be honest.

[Power to people]

I mean that's a fair point.

I've suspected for a while that players and style of play are dictated from above. It was pointed out 3 at the back has been Flynn's MO at previous clubs so could be wrong.

If this really is Kiely doing recruitment then we are all we will ever be. Pray for a sale outside the brown circle.

Isn't Kiely the one who is was said we are using his data system ? so what role does he actually play, does he provide the stats, or just the computer programme that the fitness data upload's into ?

Do we still have a chief scout or was he binned off to save money, and we just use WyScout for and word of mouth for player recruitment ?

[DiV]

I mean that's a fair point.

I've suspected for a while that players and style of play are dictated from above. It was pointed out 3 at the back has been Flynn's MO at previous clubs so could be wrong.

If this really is Kiely doing recruitment then we are all we will ever be. Pray for a sale outside the brown circle.

I don’t imagine for one second Lindsey, Sandro, Morris & Flynn all wanted to play exactly the same style, formation and sign exactly the same type of players.

Therefore, I assume recruitment is being done by someone else - so the fact we’ve sacked Flynn half way through a window doesn’t really make any difference from sacking him in November or March.

A lot of assumptions on my part admittedly.

[Boeta]

Isn't Kiely the one who is was said we are using his data system ? so what role does he actually play, does he provide the stats, or just the computer programme that the fitness data upload's into ?

Do we still have a chief scout or was he binned off to save money, and we just use WyScout for and word of mouth for player recruitment ?

It's not changed since Chorley left.

It's Kielys system and Kielys decisions*

*Odd exception e.g. Austin, Kinsella

Sandro and Russell have just been his front men.

[TailBetweenLegs]

But that’s an exception, he has loads of different roles before actually becoming a DoF/Sporting Director.

DoF is a really important role in lower leagues especially in terms of continuity. Russell doesn’t seem to tick any boxes, just like most other people involved with running the club to be honest.

It's only important if you actually use one. Surely by now it is obvious to everyone that the players being bought in are not from the manager or a DOF we are basically ringing around begging for cheap players.

[ChalkyWhiteIsGod]

Steve "interesting" Davis interesting?

The Rangers and Northern Ireland player or the snooker player? Couldn't get more bizarre than us appointing a snooker player as manager