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Title: Wouldn't this be nice in a few weeks time....
Post by: returnofthereds on Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 17:51:50
Brezovan
  Smith         Ifil              Aljofree               Vincent
 Roberts       Peacock       Easton              Holmes
                     Corr             Easter


Title: Wouldn't this be nice in a few weeks time....
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 18:16:27
would be better if Zaaboub was at left back instead of Vincent


Title: Wouldn't this be nice in a few weeks time....
Post by: Bushey Boy on Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 18:41:55
And why Brez instead of Smith, Smith has done fuck all wrong and deserves the Number 1 shirt


Title: Wouldn't this be nice in a few weeks time....
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 18:43:47
....it would be better with big Phil in goal.


Title: Wouldn't this be nice in a few weeks time....
Post by: returnofthereds on Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 20:03:42
I would just rather see Brez in goal. Much more commanding in his area, collecting crosses and stuff. Both excellent shot stoppers though.Thats it really, although having kept his place after an excellent game against the cobblers, he did have that Lehman moment on Saturday that just looped over.


Title: Wouldn't this be nice in a few weeks time....
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 20:10:04
When has Phil Smith dropped a cross....and since when does he not command his area?!

We all only saw Brez play a couple of games, there was no guarntee he could keep that form up over the whole season.

Now everyone wants to tell me how brilliant he is after watching him for about 10 games. Yet no one wants to give Phil Smith any credit.....despite playing just as well and over a longer period of games.

Plus, Brez was hardly excellent against Charlton. One good set of saves but still dropped the odd cross.


Title: Wouldn't this be nice in a few weeks time....
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 20:14:31
Smith is #1 on merit. He was outstanding last season and hardly put a foot wrong.

But I personally think Brez has the greater potential to go further based on what I have seen. We'll see.


Title: Wouldn't this be nice in a few weeks time....
Post by: returnofthereds on Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 20:24:37
Without getting too tit-for-tat. I was referring to the free kick that Smith let slip through his fingers.Not that he should be dropped for it. Just watch though in the next few games how the defenders have to deal with balls that are pumped into the box rather than Smith coming out to get them. At the start of last season whenever this happened the defence could turn away knowing that balls over head height would be taken by Brez. But as you rightly said it was only 10 or so games. But it could've continued all season though,sadly we'll never know for sure.


Title: Wouldn't this be nice in a few weeks time....
Post by: janaage on Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 20:40:02
I think you're being a little harsh on Brezovan DV, the bloke has just come back from a serious injury and you're not happy because he dropped a cross?

You're telling me that Smith didn't have a couple of dodgy performances towards the end of last season??

This time last year Brezovan was king of the town, now because Smith has filled his boots we're all ready to forget about Petr and send him packing?

I for one believe Brezovan is a far superior keeper to Smith, if we let him go that will be our loss.


Title: Wouldn't this be nice in a few weeks time....
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 20:48:01
Quote from: "returnofthereds"
Without getting too tit-for-tat. I was referring to the free kick that Smith let slip through his fingers.


I'd put that down, just as much if not more so down to the pooring rain and wet ball. More so than a Smith error.

Quote from: "janaage"
I think you're being a little harsh on Brezovan DV, the bloke has just come back from a serious injury and you're not happy because he dropped a cross?


No I never said that, everyone keeps talking up how much better Brezovan is at claiming crosses than Smith. They way some people go on you'd think Smith drops them all the time and Brez holds them all.

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You're telling me that Smith didn't have a couple of dodgy performances towards the end of last season??


Yes, nothing that sticks out in my mind....

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This time last year Brezovan was king of the town, now because Smith has filled his boots we're all ready to forget about Petr and send him packing?


No, not at all....but because Smith has come in and managed to fill Brezovans boots we should give him credit for that. Currently he's keeping Brez out the side and rightfully so

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I for one believe Brezovan is a far superior keeper to Smith, if we let him go that will be our loss.


Maybe he is....but Smith has done nothing to suggest he isnt more than good enough to be our number 1.


Title: Wouldn't this be nice in a few weeks time....
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 21:12:28
Based on what I've seen of them Brezovan is the better keeper.  As a forward I would not like to face him.

That's utterly different to saying Smith isn't getting recognition.  Based on his performances there is no way Smith should or would be dropped.

If they were both playing regularly I think Brezovan just has that bit more about him, a real presence, which Smith can't compete on.  We are lucky to have to excellent keepers who are easily good enough to be in a top 6 team in this league.  Thank you Mr Wise.


Title: Wouldn't this be nice in a few weeks time....
Post by: janaage on Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 21:18:38
And another thing, can the person who said replace Vincent with Zaboub please explain?

Vincent has been fantastic for this club since Christmas and should not be in danger of being dropped.


Title: Wouldn't this be nice in a few weeks time....
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 21:25:17
My question is would Lee Holmes be just as good the second time around. We would all expect too much....Zaboub is a great player on his day.


Title: Wouldn't this be nice in a few weeks time....
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 21:26:46
Well said Jan!

If Zaaboub is in the team, it must be on the wing. Vincent has done nothing wrong


Title: Wouldn't this be nice in a few weeks time....
Post by: janaage on Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 21:32:33
Quote from: "Sippo"
My question is would Lee Holmes be just as good the second time around. We would all expect too much....Zaboub is a great player on his day.


It's a shame that Zaboub's day appears to have been a cold Saturday, early December 2006, in Walsall.

He really hasn't done much else.


Title: Wouldn't this be nice in a few weeks time....
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 21:38:07
its a big shame, cos the lad has it in his locker...


Title: Wouldn't this be nice in a few weeks time....
Post by: mexico red on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 07:25:23
i must have missed that pinpoint cross on saturday that set up the peacock goal.


Title: Wouldn't this be nice in a few weeks time....
Post by: fatbury on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 07:30:09
a board minus Diamandis, Starnes, Holt, Gray and Bawden would be better!


Title: Wouldn't this be nice in a few weeks time....
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 07:42:50
Quote from: "fatbury"
a board minus Diamandis, Starnes, Holt, Gray and Bawden would be better!


oh FFS this is about the squad. not every single post has to allude to the board.


Title: Wouldn't this be nice in a few weeks time....
Post by: janaage on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 08:28:02
Quote from: "mexico red"
i must have missed that pinpoint cross on saturday that set up the peacock goal.


Yes that one cross on Saturday was very good, as was the little flick down near the stratton bank end on Saturday.

However apart from the Walsall match where Zaboub literally ran the show, he has, on the whole, been playing alright, nothing special.


Title: Wouldn't this be nice in a few weeks time....
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 09:58:13
i agree with jan about zaboob.
also brez clearly is the superior keeper.his only flaw is his kicking which can be worked on.that said smith will continue to be no1 due to the wedge we will receive for brez.and fair play as he has proven himself to be a decent keeper.
as long as the brez money is spent on players instead of disapearing into the abyss then i aint bothered at loosing brez really. thats the important issue here as money has always just plugged holes elsewhere.we dont need 2 great keepers, compared with other postions where we are lacking.


Title: Wouldn't this be nice in a few weeks time....
Post by: Batch on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 10:05:54
Selling Brez being a good idea will be judged on the obvious I guess, mostly already mentioned
  1. How much we get for him
  2. How much of that  goes on team rebuilding
  3. Who we sell him to (higer league or 'lateral move')
  4. Who we get as a backup to Smith, presumably that keeper from    
   Hearts we had on trial?
  5. How much 'potential' £ we lose out on if his value were to increase if
      we  played him for a season (difficult one, we better put a big sell on
      in..)

Even if all 5 were satisified as a fan I'd be dissapointed. I guess it comes down to the fact we normally sell a player after he has proven himself in our first team - i.e. we get some value from the player too for a couple of seasons..


Title: Wouldn't this be nice in a few weeks time....
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 22:59:13
I think selling Brez is an excellent idea, but only if they give me the money.