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I'm still waiting for him to tell us why we were under embargo!

What's number 18 all about??

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Jed what is your real name and why do you keep on changing it?

BBC Wiltshire Interview with the chairman here.

Will's asked some great questions to Jed here.
I don't think Jed quite understands the fans position regarding Power.

http://soundcloud.com/bbcmarkod/jed-mccrory-long-interview

BBC Wiltshire Interview with the chairman here.

Will's asked some great questions to Jed here.
I don't think Jed quite understands the fans position regarding Power.

http://soundcloud.com/bbcmarkod/jed-mccrory-long-interview

BBC Wiltshire Interview with the chairman here.

Will's asked some great questions to Jed here.
I don't think Jed quite understands the fans position regarding Power.

http://soundcloud.com/bbcmarkod/jed-mccrory-long-interview

Thanks for that Mr Kaufman. Hadn't heard that. Thought it was a really good, positive interview. Would like to see a lot more of these.

Can't get it to play here. What does he say?

Cheers NMH. Did he put any actual ideas around the "community club" bit or was it just passing mention lip service that all clubs do?

One point you didnt mention, from that interview it sounds like Cooper has the job, thats just how I heard it anyway.

BBC Wiltshire Interview with the chairman here.

Will's asked some great questions to Jed here.
I don't think Jed quite understands the fans position regarding Power.

http://soundcloud.com/bbcmarkod/jed-mccrory-long-interview

Just modified it. Thought he was negative about it at first. Talked about listening to the fans. Then went on to say that if he did well then why not. But there were others being considered.

I think people would understand/accept Power more willingly if he did an interview clarifying his role and what he's accountable for.

We are a Brighton cast off team now as well then with Navarro, Kasim, Branco, Harley and Hall :D

Oh my god.

We're losing our identity!

I liked the stuff on playing style...very difficult strategy to implement, for obvious reasons. But a brave philosphy, so hope it works.

I just wish he'd pronounce his "H's".

Is it really fair to say that the atmosphere was poor under the last administration? Does anyone know?

There is a fair amount of hot air in there. Apparently we, the fans, were clamouring for Byrne to sign. Also, what on earth does he mean by "it wasn't a transfer embargo, it was a club embargo".

Interesting that Lee Power can only spend 90 days a year in the UK, because he is a Swiss resident.

I think people would understand/accept Power more willingly if he did an interview clarifying his role and what he's accountable for.

Jed was direct messaging me on twitter the other day and I said the exact same thing. He said a statement would come later that day from Power and never did.

Jed sent me a direct message about a month ago saying Power would speak in the next week!

He meant that Power would say something, he's a very quiet bloek you know.

Jed sent me a direct message about a month ago saying Power would speak in the next week!

I didnt realise he only spends 90 days a year in the country.

I didnt realise he only spends 90 days a year in the country.

It's what happens if you want to avoid paying UK tax...the reason why Power can't be the actual boss.

11:05am Thu 1 Aug 13
fredi says...

London Red, I read your (almost daily) comments and note that you are constantly condescending and patronising towards fellow posters. Some of us, while reading the message boards daily, only feel the need to contribute when there is something valid to say. You should try it.

My concerns, and those of many other fans, have not been dispelled by the summer activity, but rather heightened. I sat quietly listening to Steve Murrall's business plans and though the numbers seemed wildly optimistic, did not comment because I am not negative for negative's sake but rather like any true fan want to hear positive ideas for taking the club forward which Steve certainly attempted to convey. I found it amusing that Steve "knew" who I was, and kept silent when told that my comments were personal in nature. I have never been employed by STFC and my previous comments were purely factual, not personal.

I have asked for honesty and transparency from the Board but we have not got it. Whether he was the right man for the job or not, KMAC is one of the nicest guys you could meet and for him to leave because he considered his position untenable should have raised more media concern than it did. When Lee Power bought the club, he paid off Jed and those briefly associated with the club, Greg Hall, Tommy Agombar and Martin King. Nothing wrong with that, but we have a right to know who owns the club. I think we also have a right to know the details of the Spurs arrangement. An excellent deal for Spurs clearly, but I am only concerned about STFC - I am told that under the agreement, the Spurs players have to play, but I think it is right to question the integrity of such an arrangement. Against this background, what chance of attracting a new manager, if there is a meagre wage (KMAC never even had a contract), no say in player acquisition and even a limited say in team selection ? Power let it be known that he expected to make an appointment "within 48 hours " of KMAC's departure, with a Spurs mate lined up, but for whatever reason that fell through and attracting someone from outside the "circle of trust" may prove difficult.

It seems highly likely that if we get a half decent start, Cooper keeps the job full time - he seems to have handled himself very well over the summer and probably deserves his chance. Whether or not we all agree on that, there is one thing that we can all agree on, and that is to give the manager and players our 100% support from Saturday. While off field concerns remain valid, so does the need to get behind the team on the pitch. COYR

p.s. question for London Red. I have some silver cutlery at home. If I hock it for whatever I can get, and borrow some cheap silver plated stuff, I've still got a drawer full of cutlery, right ? So nothing's changed ?

Ha! The Agombar link is actually quite funny, if true. And they wonder why we dare call into question their credibility!

Ha! The Agombar link is actually quite funny, if true. And they wonder why we dare call into question their credibility!

He/she is quite insistent that Power owns the club.

There is a question for you ask Mr Hodgetts,  who owns what?

fredi's credibility has to be called into question after he/she summarily failed to provide the smoking gun as promised

Quite how Power can be accused of running EVERYTHING is beyond me if he is only in the country for 90 days a year.

You'd never get the right answer even if he did own it because it would be legally down to the person registered with the shares.

Yey,another q and a full of half truths and leaving more questions than answers. Actions speak louder than words anyway.

Yey,another q and a full of half truths and leaving more questions than answers. Actions speak louder than words anyway.

Arriba, I have always respected your views and accepted most of them because I thought you knew what you were talking about but I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that you are now appearing bitter and twisted about the new board!!

Arriba, I have always respected your views and accepted most of them because I thought you knew what you were talking about but I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that you are now appearing bitter and twisted about the new board!!

So if he talks to us he's in the wrong and if he doesn't talk to us he's in the wrong?
It's kind of balanced, I guess.

Arriba, I have always respected your views and accepted most of them because I thought you knew what you were talking about but I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that you are now appearing bitter and twisted about the new board!!

Where is this team pic ?   know they did it today but didnt know its been shown anywhere ?

i say what I think. You make of it what you like.

Evening Jed.

although it's Jed who has already contradicted himself after statements my view would be the same regardless of who was chairman or the board. You rarely get the full truth.  I don't care what people think of me.i say what I think. You make of it what you like.

I'm down with the meme's now

Sorry to disappoint you Chang!!  I have been a season ticket holder since the 70's, as opposed to Jed who probably never knew we existed until recently!!  Perhaps you are Jed!!

Loads from Jed about the coaching staff and the impact they are having. But who are they apart from Coops who is doing a fantastic job apparently. Well lets see how Saturday goes. Think the two who apparently are just about to come in are pretty key. Two more unproven kids and Cooper will be gone by November, two more streetwise pros with a bit of know how and we  could be ok.

we have already got plenty of potential tThompsons and Foderinghams. Could do with few more McCormack and Wards

fair do's but we've already got 2 Thompsons and a Foderingham but a distinct lack of McCormacks

Getting fed up of the silence re Power now. Why cant he or Jed just tell us what his role at the club and/or boardroom level is?

(http://danceswithfat.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/jump-to-conclusions-mat.jpg)

Quite how Power can be accused of running EVERYTHING is beyond me if he is only in the country for 90 days a year.

My bad, it just seems that recently every slightly anti board post on here you respond jumping to their defence.

Despite what a lot of people wanted to believe Wray and co left this club in a financial mess

I really don't think that's true. There were a few players and a manager on sizeable contracts, a couple of ex-players receiving 'please go away' compromise payments… and that's about it, isn't it? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

For committing to take on these ongoing costs, those coming in were offered a club with all debts written off for £1. Anyone with the financial clout McCrory claimed to have at the time of coming in would have been able to pick up those running costs (including keeping the manager) easily given the lack of investment required elsewhere.

Anyway, it's old news really and there have been a few promising signs lately so I don't want to get too 'doom-mongery' about it. But the idea McCrory and co were handed some crippled ship that desperately needed saving is gaining a lot of ground and I just don't see it that way. Fitton and Wray were handed that ship five or so years ago, and they saved it.

I really don't think that's true. There were a few players and a manager on sizeable contracts, a couple of ex-players receiving 'please go away' compromise payments… and that's about it, isn't it? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

For committing to take on these ongoing costs, those coming in were offered a club with all debts written off for £1. Anyone with the financial clout McCrory claimed to have at the time of coming in would have been able to pick up those running costs (including keeping the manager) easily given the lack of investment required elsewhere.

Anyway, it's old news really and there have been a few promising signs lately so I don't want to get too 'doom-mongery' about it. But the idea McCrory and co were handed some crippled ship that desperately needed saving is gaining a lot of ground and I just don't see it that way. Fitton and Wray were handed that ship five or so years ago, and they saved it.

Had McCrory and co not come in or any other consortium for that matter, we would have likely gone into Administration and had points deductions and a whole load of pain. The Wray and Co way was sustainable as long as Black was putting his hand in his pocket, once Black pulled out we could have ended up going down shit creek without even a fly swat.

That's it in a nutshell, the outgoings of high wages and a manger with expensive tastes was balanced with a substantial backer.

Unless Caddis is paid a paltry basic with huge financial payments when he plays I see no reason not to play him, in my mind not playing him just reduces his value every week and will end up us selling him on the 'cheap'.

Had there been any other viable candidate, I'm convinced JedCo would have come second.
To Black's credit, he wanted to deal with a consortium that wouldn't take the club through admin, and to JedCo's credit, they were the only group prepared to do this deal.
So who's to blame for all this? Black, Jed, Fitton, Wray, PdC?

Agree with this. They were given a club with a fixed balance sheet, and a messed up P&L. They don't have their own cash to fix the P&L over a longer period of time, so it's shock treatment, austerity measures and blame everything on the last lot.

Do we know who this buyer who died was?

I don't think that has ever been disclosed!

It was Jimmy Saville.

In that case, I hold the FA and Wembley responsible... how long did they take to finally sort that pitch out?!

Do we know who this buyer who died was?

You sound just like David Cameron

David Cameron !!  Whatever...Bournemouth!   Unfortunately...Blackesque!

Lord lucan

Well spotted.

Too many exclamation marks.

Well spotted.

Too many exclamation marks.

I don't get how "Archibald-Henville" fits with the number 41 but not any other? Surely the letters remain the same size...

'2 wins from first 3 matches and Cooper will get it'

- Jed asked about the vacant number 9 - claims any deal for Jason Roberts is now 'dead in the water' with K-Macs departure.

What number did he have last season?

I don't get how "Archibald-Henville" fits with the number 41 but not any other? Surely the letters remain the same size...

What number did he have last season?

Swear he didn't say either of these things!?

We brought in three blokes from Brighton?? Harley is one, who are the others?

Swear he didn't say either of these things!?

Is anyone else listening able to corroborate what Chang is posting?

kmacs exit mentioned at all?

Is anyone else listening able to corroborate what Chang is posting?

kmacs exit mentioned at all?

doubt we'll ever find out what happened, much like the details of PDC's exit being shrouded in mystery.

Chang did make up those 2 points. At least I didn't hear them. I thought the Roberts one was obviously a joke but not the one about appointing Cooper.

Stop being a cock please Chang.

Nicely dodged both of my questions.

Style of play keeps being mentioned. What is it? How don't some players fit it? And whose style of play is it? A new manager should have that say surely.

What were they?

Why change 4-4-2?

Complete waste of time.

Steve comes across pretty well I think and knows his stuff.

oh god, the season hasn't even started and people are already fucking moaning that we're not playing 4-4-2?

Good to hear the club plan to announce more about Power's role next Thursday.

No it's shit....this sort of stuff needs to be on a Friday  >:(

- Jed disappointed that Power has not been praised by fans for his efforts.

That is an absolute fucking gem

In much the same way SSW used to be regularly disappointed more people weren't more appreciative of the very great toils of his little Cypriot friend.

Spot on.
Like Jeds interview in the Adver tonight,and yes he is right when he says that he is still learning on communicating with fans.

No it's shit....this sort of stuff needs to be on a Friday  >:(

That is an absolute fucking gem

he's acting very shady in the background, it comes across in my opinion that he's getting rid of the experienced players, getting all these spurs loanees in and making us have a team of kids, telling managers who to sign and creating a circle of trust hence why Cooper will probably be appointed as any other guy who isn't a yes man wouldn't stand for it.

Plus it appears that he could be telling the manager what style to play, it's like he's running everything, I don't like the setup and the sound of things.

i particularly like the wealth of evidence and facts that you have used to make this highly enlightened and informative post.

i particularly like the wealth of evidence and facts that you have used to make this highly enlightened and informative post.

He's the same chappy that thinks the board are a joke because Brentford 'allegedly' showed an interest in Wes.

He's clearly a very insightful fellow.

i particularly like the wealth of evidence and facts that you have used to make this highly enlightened and informative post.

i particularly like the wealth of evidence and facts that you have used to make this highly enlightened and informative post.

Your post highlights exactly why Power is not going to get praise. We can't bleedin' well guess what he does!

You missed your mate Brian from Larkhill, Reg.

- Roof on Bank 'in for planning'. No timeframe.  :no:

Well it wasn't on the on-line system 5 mins ago when I checked so either this is total bollocks or only submitted in last few days.

I think the new board and chairman would have benefited a lot if they had Jeremy Wray on board for a bit,even if it was a temporary basis.
He knew the club inside out.

It is, why the hell would we praise Power? he's acting very shady in the background, it comes across in my opinion that he's getting rid of the experienced players, getting all these spurs loanees in and making us have a team of kids, telling managers who to sign and creating a circle of trust hence why Cooper will probably be appointed as any other guy who isn't a yes man wouldn't stand for it.

Plus it appears that he could be telling the manager what style to play, it's like he's running everything, I don't like the setup and the sound of things.

His reluctance to talk just makes things much much worse!

I don't know enough about the planning permission thingy and I don't know what discussion was had with KMAC. If it transpires he is lying then he is an arse.

Who the fuck said Hoddle is coming?

I was listening in the car and got funny looks.....constantly shouting fuck off at the dash.....

What fucks me off is they expect us to swallow this bullshit.

Glenn Hoddle....roof on the Bank....Kevin asked me for a meeting and we sat down and he said ' it's not for me!'........fuck off...all bullshit...

At the moment we are all disillusioned and narked..... we start getting dicked and it start to get nasty.

agree. I'd add the players not fitting style of played as more bullshit too.

Think we got some thruth last night,some half truths, some questions dodged, and some lies too. Usual football interview fayre

"In for planning" may just be a term used to say "we are discussing with the council the best way forward for getting planning permission" which is a whole different ball game than actually "in for planning permission"!  Interpretation of words can be a mine field at times, especially when you want to be seen to be doing something positive - a good politician's trick (and a lot of people fell for it at the last election).

So we may have a first team coach, as opposed to a manager. Am I the only one who's not really bothered? If the football's attractive and reasonably successful I'm not that concerned who pulls the strings (as long as the puppeteer isn't from North London).

So we may have a first team coach, as opposed to a manager. Am I the only one who's not really bothered? If the football's attractive and reasonably successful I'm not that concerned who pulls the strings (as long as the puppeteer isn't from North London).

So we may have a first team coach, as opposed to a manager. Am I the only one who's not really bothered? If the football's attractive and reasonably successful I'm not that concerned who pulls the strings (as long as the puppeteer isn't from North London).

So we may have a first team coach, as opposed to a manager. Am I the only one who's not really bothered? If the football's attractive and reasonably successful I'm not that concerned who pulls the strings (as long as the puppeteer isn't from North London).

I personally think the manager should manage the team. In theory it's what he has studied and trained to do for however many years...and it some cases it's the job he has done for x amount of years.

On that note, do we know if Power has any coaching qualification?

So we may have a first team coach, as opposed to a manager. Am I the only one who's not really bothered?

In most other team sports a coach is appointed to take charge of training, matches and generally just the on field activities.  Someone above that coach (general manager, sporting director, etc) is responsible for players recruitment.

I hope it doesn't but I can see this practice becoming even more common in football as the years go by.

But how many times has it been successful in English (or British) football?

I'm bothered, I'm sure many others are too, why would you want someone on the board possibly pulling all the strings and telling the manager what players to sign, what formation to play and who to play? the manager should be responsible for bringing HIS own players in, selecting HIS formation and tactics and playing HIS chosen team.

I can't say for definite that Power is doing all this, but it's my opinion that he is because it comes across that way and then Jed wonders why the fans haven't praised Power and he's only going to get people criticising him unless there's definite confirmation of his involvment which is what Thursdays statement might be about, however I wouldn't hold your breath.

I wouldn't put it past Tottenham having a big influence either but it's our club, I'd rather ditch the Spurs link completely then be told what to do at our club but again no one knows anything for certain, some of it is pure guess work and down to opinions.

A la PDC you mean? Maybe if it had been HIS club with HIS money at risk things would have turned out different.

Promotion, cup runs with 'giant' killings, Wembley, top 6 in league 1. I wouldn't want them to turn out differently.

Yeah, I knew the point they were making really. I don't disagree with the point, but equally I had the most enjoyable 18 months of following Swindon I can remember. Actually Black financed a bit more than that with the league 1 playoff season too. Tantalisingly close to the promised land twice.

I'd not change it even though we are now in the shit again.

Maybe he wouldn't have had such a scatter gun approach to signings though.

Might be bollocks, but I'm sure I read somewhere that he had signed almost 70 players (including loans) in the time he was at Swindon, and as we have subsequently discovered quite a few of those on very big pay.

The fact that he ended up with a pretty good team, doesn't take away from the fact that we pissed away a lot of money doing it (even if that money was sanctioned by Jezza).

The scariest bit for me is that of that 28 only 9 remain at the club and 4 of those remaining weren't given squad numbers.

Total of 41 players, beginning with Joe Devera and ending with Chris Martin. 28 signed on permanent deals, 13 on loan deals.

Didn't include Chris Smith.

Was bollocks then, even so 41 in 18 months is still quite some going

28 on perms is a lot, lot less than I imagined given the hissy fits and the duds we offloaded/paid off/loaned out.

Correct.

And the biggest fees paid our were tribunal set i believe,Troy and Collins though someone may tell me different.

Correct.

And the biggest fees paid our were tribunal set i believe,Troy and Collins though someone may tell me different.

Actions speak louder than words anyway.

Spot on. Sort this kind of shit out:

http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=52081.msg1215653

and then spouting a load of guff on a phone-in might carry a bit more weight

Two side to everything Paul......

Just been down to the ground - outside ticket windows open and two of them manned - queue about 3-4 people each.

Walked into the shop - 3 people in the queue.  Managed to get a shirt, collect my ST and buy my tickets for the game tomorrow inside 5 minutes.

Absolutely great service as far as I can see - much better that you can do it all in one place.  Last season I would have had to go to the shop to get my shirt, and then to the ticket office and queue for tickets and ST.  Not saying that was a major ball ache or anything - just that it was nice to be able to get it all sorted so easily.....

Sure. When it works, it works well. But the anecdotal evidence over the past few days has been that when it doesn't work, it's a mess, both online and in person. The other side to your side (if you see what I mean) is I bought my eldest the away shirt for his birthday, except it wasn't out by then, so he keenly awaited the "launch date" which was last Friday. Which was when they also decided to tell people to pick up their season tickets. So when my missus went in to pick up the shirt, well she couldn't get in the shop, because they were queueing out the door and some folks apparently had been there for up to 2 hours. So she went away and came back later on. Still took best part of half an hour just to pick up a shirt that had already been paid for.

Plenty of other examples in that thread and that I've heard of personally, as I'm sure you have. Hence the comment - it's easy to talk the talk, but so far, in terms of walking the walk, there's a lot of stumbling going on.

To be fair to the staff, they really were trying their best and it was the late arrival of the Season Tickets from the supplier that caught them out.

On the plus side, a man on the staff was fast-tracking people who had come to collect their away shirts or to buy other merchandise so they didn't get caught up in the ST queue.

But surely the priority should have been given to those collecting their season tickets - something many of us had paid for months ago? This smacks of the club more desperate to take in new cash than service those that had already handed over dosh for something that should have been available some time ago.

Bollocks. Absolute, utter bollocks.

Why?

Why not service those 'customers' who had already paid for 'goods' worth £100s and whose supply was weeks later than initially promised?

If I was in the shop trying to get my season ticket (paid for at the beginning of March) and someone buying Jimmy a new pencil case was allowed to get served before me I wouldn't be happy. Simple customer service principles.

Should have paid the £3 extra and had it posted to you

Tight cunt

Should have paid the £3 extra and had it posted to you

Tight cunt

Why?

Why not service those 'customers' who had already paid for 'goods' worth £100s and whose supply was weeks later than initially promised?

If I was in the shop trying to get my season ticket (paid for at the beginning of March) and someone buying Jimmy a new pencil case was allowed to get served before me I wouldn't be happy. Simple customer service principles.

When I handed the money over on 23rd March I didn't know that Jockanory and grumpy Bollocks were going. I didn't know the ticket office would be gone. I didn't know that STs would not be available only 8 days before the first home league game. I didn't know that when I went to collect them, they wouldn't fucking have them.
I'm sure a lot of people would have paid the £3 or whatever but didn't know it would be a fuck up for many.
Also I was told my tickets weren't ready as the club printer had broken and they were waiting for a man to fix it - this is different to the other story about the 3rd party sending the tickets late - although I'm not sure how the broken printer would print plastic. 

? Not sure I see the advantage of pushing everyone through the shop though.

I assume the printer is needed for the inserts that go in the wallets with the cards?  Anyway, surely the club has more than one printer?  Shambolic yet again....

Because Jimmy's Mummy's new cash is more important than keeping you happy.

Pretty simple economics really.

Extra spending, a lesson no doubt learned from the supermarket geniuses that fleece us every day of the week without us realising what we are doing.

So we may have a first team coach, as opposed to a manager. Am I the only one who's not really bothered? If the football's attractive and reasonably successful I'm not that concerned who pulls the strings (as long as the puppeteer isn't from North London).

+1 here. Maybe it'll entice a manager who believe in a philosophy of attractive football and blooding youngsters. I don't think it's so bad, so long as they're just implementing this new ethos and won't be dictating it from here on out. If it attracts a manager who has the same beliefs then maybe he'll be left to it and not be a puppet to the evil overlords.