The new, new manager thread. Thread closed.

[horlock07]

Indifferent to it. About what I expected, a youth coach with no head coach track record and just have to wait and see.

How much difference in footballing terms is there between being a youth coach and a head coach when DoF/TD etc do a large part of what was the traditional managers role now?

[ChalkyWhiteIsGod]

How much difference in footballing terms is there between being a youth coach and a head coach when DoF/TD etc do a large part of what was the traditional managers role now?

Good question. Probably not a lot.

Which makes it confusing as to who should take the majority of the flak if and when things go tits up. I think the set up can work, but I much prefer a manager to decide his backroom staff of coaches and scouts to take certain roles because then everyone knows where they stand.

[Shrivvy Road]

I still think the backroom staff is probably causing a bit of an issue. I spoke with someone yesterday who thinks we are still negotiating with Charlton for the 2 Scotts

[Batch]

I think Sandro said as much on Monday, 'conversations ongoing' or similar

[ChalkyWhiteIsGod]

I suppose with the two Scotts, its probably more of a game of chicken between now and preseason when they'd actually be due to start work.

Its good we're not just rolling over and letting them pay us whatever they want, but probably wise to get it done and dusted soon and not over negotiate. We don't want to be stuck with two coaches we no longer really want.

[Lambo75]

It seems logical to me that these guys are holding the rest of the news up.

In the absence of a solution, it must be within the clubs power to move these guys and put them to work doing youth development or something else low key (assuming they are not wanted in their current positions).

new man could them come in and install his backroom, and these guys either rot on a salary of x number month or they move on when a sufficient compensation value is met. Not exactly a win win but shows that we won't roll over, also preserves an upfront payment to get rid of....the hope being they leave of their own free will sooner rather than later.

[horlock07]

It seems logical to me that these guys are holding the rest of the news up.

In the absence of a solution, it must be within the clubs power to move these guys and put them to work doing youth development or something else low key (assuming they are not wanted in their current positions).

new man could them come in and install his backroom, and these guys either rot on a salary of x number month or they move on when a sufficient compensation value is met. Not exactly a win win but shows that we won't roll over, also preserves an upfront payment to get rid of....the hope being they leave of their own free will sooner rather than later.

That would leave us paying more coaches than we want and sounds remarkably like constructive dismissal which could cost us a fortune at an employment tribunal.

[Batch]

It seems logical to me that these guys are holding the rest of the news up.

Either the new manager is in, or he isn't.

We can't afford to wait for "I'll come if I can bring my own coaches".

I don't see the point of holding anything up just so we can announce all in one go. 

[The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey]

This was from James Spence on June 7th

‘Issue is with compensation on the 2 scotts. We need Charlton to agree this before announcements can occur. We have preferred replacements (HC and no 2), as well as players signed (current and new ones) ready to go. Lets hope it all gets agreed asap.’

Says players old and new have signed. I don’t understand how haggling over not very much for the 2 Scotts prevents announcing what has occurred.

Seems fucking flaky to me.

[ChalkyWhiteIsGod]

This was from James Spence on June 7th

‘Issue is with compensation on the 2 scotts. We need Charlton to agree this before announcements can occur. We have preferred replacements (HC and no 2), as well as players signed (current and new ones) ready to go. Lets hope it all gets agreed asap.’

Says players old and new have signed. I don’t understand how haggling over not very much for the 2 Scotts prevents announcing what has occurred.

Seems fucking flaky to me.

Me neither. Who is James Spence?

[The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey]

Fella from the Trust who posts on here - JanAirplaneMan

[Berniman]

James Spencer

[Posh Red]

James Spencer

New Manager

[ChalkyWhiteIsGod]

He's 4/1 already

[Posh Red]

He's 4/1 already

I’m sure we can get him in to odds on