Coronavirus

[RobertT]

We had a big outbreak at work and many were late 50's getting close to their booster jab. Maybe the vaccine was getting weak within our immune system but I guess we will never know

The "vaccine" is actually designed to stop replication, so it doesn't necessarily prevent infection (although by stopping replication it can do a good job of preventing the virus reaching any sort of level that shows up as an infection).

Data must be piling through by now....

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2021/11/08/unvaccinated-people-20-times-more-likely-to-die-from-covid-19-than-vaccinated-new-texas-data-shows/

[magicroundabout]

yes as time goes obviously more data will appear.
A good study was done in France recently though which is interesting regarding vaccines and immunity levels

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20211011-french-study-finds-vaccines-highly-effective-at-cutting-severe-covid-19-risk

[Jimmy HaveHave]

Good post guys appreciate sharing the data

[theakston2k]

I see Netherlands are going close to a full lockdown again, if they try that here I’d like to think everyone would rebel against it.

Usual doom mongers like Independent SAGE are demanding Plan B here but looking at the likes of Germany and the other home nations shows that’s utterly pointless so hope Boris shows some balls for once and stands his ground. Going back to the vaccine I don’t see how we can do anything but carry on with Plan A, we were told the vaccination was the way out of this, that’s why I accepted it, if they start introducing restrictions again people will be less inclined to get jabbed as they’ll see it as pointless and there’s no end game.

[Nomoreheroes]

Absolute nightmare of a Spanish travel form!

All sorts of problems as the NHS app details didnt have details of wife's booster jab. Also, she had to have PCR test due (negative) due to being pinged 14 days before travel! Tried all sorts of combinations of stuff just to get it filled in!

Also, after buying bloody LFT tests and taking them less than 48 hours before travel, in accordance with what we read a couple of weeks ago, we notice that it says not to do them before 2100 the day before flying (ie Tomorrow night!) So what the fuck do I do now!

Finally, I cant fill in the sodding Spanish form as I dont have a sodding seat number and the check in is locked out!

Am starting to think it wasnt worth the hassle!
 

[Batch]

you don't need lft to travel to Spain?

I doubt the seat numbers matter.. how will they know? I bet it's for contact tracing in case of a later possible passive test.

I don't get the bit about being pinged needing PCR test either. The track and trace app isn't linked to the NHS app, it can't be as it's anonymous data collection

lastly I hadn't heard that there had been a rule change regarding needing proof of booster jab to show full vaccination status. afaik it's still 14 days since second jab = fully vaccinated

[Jimmy HaveHave]

you don't need lft to travel to Spain?

You got any taste back yet🤔

[Batch]

got any taste back yet🤔

yup, not full taste though, muted

[The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey]

I see Netherlands are going close to a full lockdown again, if they try that here I’d like to think everyone would rebel against it.

Usual doom mongers like Independent SAGE are demanding Plan B here but looking at the likes of Germany and the other home nations shows that’s utterly pointless so hope Boris shows some balls for once and stands his ground. Going back to the vaccine I don’t see how we can do anything but carry on with Plan A, we were told the vaccination was the way out of this, that’s why I accepted it, if they start introducing restrictions again people will be less inclined to get jabbed as they’ll see it as pointless and there’s no end game.

The problem for Boris is that every disastrous decision they made during the crisis was always branded as ‘following the scientific advice’. To now ignore it when it suits him lays those decisions bare.

No matter how hopeless the opposition, I can’t see Bozo getting re-elected. Surely the people have seen through the bombast.

[Jimmy HaveHave]

The opposition have never been as weak but who is there to topple Borris even though he's a loose cannon!

[NotHarryAgombar]

I suspect his own party will sack him at some point - plenty of traditional tories are getting cheesed off about the way they are trying to keep the 2019 “red wall” lot onside, and a lot of the 2019 intake were unhappy about the Paterson vote business.

[Jimmy HaveHave]

Yes you're probably right and plenty of unrest within the party simmering away!

[Jimmy HaveHave]

yup, not full taste though, muted

I think I'm getting a little taste back but I'm a few days behind now you!

[Jimmy HaveHave]

I see Netherlands are going close to a full lockdown again, if they try that here I’d like to think everyone would rebel against it.

Usual doom mongers like Independent SAGE are demanding Plan B here but looking at the likes of Germany and the other home nations shows that’s utterly pointless so hope Boris shows some balls for once and stands his ground. Going back to the vaccine I don’t see how we can do anything but carry on with Plan A, we were told the vaccination was the way out of this, that’s why I accepted it, if they start introducing restrictions again people will be less inclined to get jabbed as they’ll see it as pointless and there’s no end game.

Chaos on the streets in Holland as total lockdown enforced!

[theakston2k]

The problem for Boris is that every disastrous decision they made during the crisis was always branded as ‘following the scientific advice’. To now ignore it when it suits him lays those decisions bare.

No matter how hopeless the opposition, I can’t see Bozo getting re-elected. Surely the people have seen through the bombast.

Starmer has come across as even more incompetent than Boris though and with Labour so divided they have zero chance at the next election. As for scientific advice, which version? A lot of the NHS problems now are as a result of lockdowns and restrictions so bringing in restrictions because of the compounds effect of restrictions is beyond nonsensical.