Coronavirus

[Abrahammer]

because it's harder to fake double vaccinated status

Although when they say proof of double vaccination is required, is it as simple as showing those shitty little cards?

Already know of few anti-vaxer whack jobs who have got fake ones

[Bob's Orange]

Although when they say proof of double vaccination is required, is it as simple as showing those shitty little cards?

Already know of few anti-vaxer whack jobs who have got fake ones

Surely its via the NHS app? Although obviously if people don't have smart phones this won't be possible so perhaps the shitty little cards could then become acceptable?

[horlock07]

Although when they say proof of double vaccination is required, is it as simple as showing those shitty little cards?

Already know of few anti-vaxer whack jobs who have got fake ones

This is the problem, whilst you can (rightly in my humble opinion) criticise the government for their handling of things, they are in certain areas entirely dependent upon the morality and honesty of the general public expecting them to act in the best interests of all.

We have been doing LFT's twice a week as requested for a while now, however, I know of others who also have school age kids where it seems to be almost a badge of honour that they have never taken a test!

Surely its via the NHS app? Although obviously if people don't have smart phones this won't be possible so perhaps the shitty little cards could then become acceptable?

I don't think the App has that capability and as with anything else you would be dependent upon the information entered. Perhaps you could add capacity, but at the going rate that's probably another £10bn into some donors pocket. 

[Private Fraser]

Although when they say proof of double vaccination is required, is it as simple as showing those shitty little cards?

Already know of few anti-vaxer whack jobs who have got fake ones

No, the "shitty little cards" are not enough.

Here's the guff from the website:

"For ticket holders based in England:

    Proof of a negative Lateral Flow Test (LFT), reported and demonstrated via your NHS COVID Pass on the NHS app, or a text message or email from NHS Test and Trace. This can be on your device (including a screenshot) or a printout. The test needs to be taken within 48 hours of the time stadium gates open (meaning three hours before match kick-off).
   
Or proof of full vaccination - both doses received at least 14 days prior to the match. It must be demonstrated either via your NHS COVID Pass on the NHS App or the English vaccination letter. ❗ Your vaccination card will not be accepted.
   
Or proof of natural immunity, demonstrated via your NHS COVID Pass on the NHS App."

[Batch]

NHS app (not the covid 19 one) does have the ability to show vaccine status.

not only that, it is data obtained via the vaccination centre and not via user input.
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Dave I quite agree that testing should be used as an alternative to vaccine status

my point was if it is mass abused, then it's fine by me to switch to vaccinated only.

[Abrahammer]

No, the "shitty little cards" are not enough.

Here's the guff from the website:

"For ticket holders based in England:

    Proof of a negative Lateral Flow Test (LFT), reported and demonstrated via your NHS COVID Pass on the NHS app, or a text message or email from NHS Test and Trace. This can be on your device (including a screenshot) or a printout. The test needs to be taken within 48 hours of the time stadium gates open (meaning three hours before match kick-off).
   
Or proof of full vaccination - both doses received at least 14 days prior to the match. It must be demonstrated either via your NHS COVID Pass on the NHS App or the English vaccination letter. ❗ Your vaccination card will not be accepted.
   
Or proof of natural immunity, demonstrated via your NHS COVID Pass on the NHS App."

Ah right that makes sense

[Bogus Dave]

So we have a position where the only people who can plan things with any certainty (or even at all) are those old or sick enough to be double vaccinated?

[horlock07]

NHS app (not the covid 19 one) does have the ability to show vaccine status.

not only that, it is data obtained via the vaccination centre and not via user input.

I didn't even know there was an NHS App, every day is a school day!

[LucienSanchez]

I didn't even know there was an NHS App, every day is a school day!

I didn’t until it was on the One Show… really handy if vaccination status becomes a condition of entry

[Abrahammer]

I didn’t until it was on the One Show… really handy if vaccination status becomes a condition of entry

Owning up to watching the One Show, fair play to you

[Panda Paws]

I didn't realize that you needed a LFT OR proof of double vaxx for Wembley. My immoral behaviour was all for nothing as I've had both jabs.

[Batch]

So we have a position where the only people who can plan things with any certainty (or even at all) are those old or sick enough to be double vaccinated?

I'm saying there may not be a choice if it testing is abused and shown to have a significant impact on community spread.

Hopefully by 19th the vaccination status will mean the risk of hospitalisation is vastly reduced and it's a non issue

[Costanza]

I didn't realize that you needed a LFT OR proof of double vaxx for Wembley. My immoral behaviour was all for nothing as I've had both jabs.

Good save!

 

[Batch]

I didn't realize that you needed a LFT OR proof of double vaxx for Wembley. My immoral behaviour was all for nothing as I've had both jabs.

youre just morally dubious, but law abiding then

[Batch]

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I didn't even know there was an NHS App, every day is a school day! [/quote]

it's handy for ordering repeat prescriptions too