Coronavirus

[Jimmy HaveHave]

Shut the schools completely for a few months, have some parred back distance learning if they must, and condense or cancel Easter/spring/summer school holidays to make the time back

I've just passed a large group of 14-15 year old kids messing around so how would anyone know if they are carrying the virus

[Cheltred]

In the trials, none of the participants experienced serious symptoms of COVID requiring hospital treatment after the first dose i.e. some did still catch COVID after the first jab, but much less than in the general population and even for those who got it it seems to have mitigated the impact of it.

Thanks. Sounds good at least

[horlock07]

Given furlough is confirmed until April, we’re in peak virus season, numbers are rocketing and we now have a bona Fide exit strategy, i don’t understand why we aren’t having another nationwide lockdown similar to the one last March. Shut everything down completely for three months, industrialise the vaccinations in that time and bosh - you exit March with little to no community spread and the majority of the population vaccinated

Seems silly to let people continue to get ill and die when the end is so near

[horlock07]

In the trials, none of the participants experienced serious symptoms of COVID requiring hospital treatment after the first dose i.e. some did still catch COVID after the first jab, but much less than in the general population and even for those who got it it seems to have mitigated the impact of it.

Possibly one idea would be to do 1st doses first to get the coverage and reduce deaths, however the NHS Trusts are under a three line whip from the government that anyone who has one dose has the other within 12 weeks.

One idea floated once the Oxford Vax came online was to basically get people out vaxxing people literally on the door step door to door on the doorstep, albeit that apparently has been discounted.

[pauld]

Possibly one idea would be to do 1st doses first to get the coverage and reduce deaths, however the NHS Trusts are under a three line whip from the government that anyone who has one dose has the other within 12 weeks.

TBF I don't think it's so much as "three line whip from the government" as a condition of its approval for use by the MRHA

[horlock07]

TBF I don't think it's so much as "three line whip from the government" as a condition of its approval for use by the MRHA

Its quite the threat, they have to record the serial number of dose 1 and apply and allocate a second dose or arses will be severely kicked!

[Bogus Dave]

I've just passed a large group of 14-15 year old kids messing around so how would anyone know if they are carrying the virus

Large groups of teenagers messed around in the first lockdown and it didn’t cause any issue. The problem isn’t them, it’s the millions of kids aged 5 and upwards mingling

It’s been (rightly) pointed out that closing schools would have knock on effects for key workers. In which case move to a similar model as we had in the spring, knock the curriculum on the head for a few months and turn schools into designated childcare areas until it’s safe enough for all to return.

[Jimmy HaveHave]

Large groups of teenagers messed around in the first lockdown and it didn’t cause any issue. The problem isn’t them, it’s the millions of kids aged 5 and upwards mingling

It’s been (rightly) pointed out that closing schools would have knock on effects for key workers. In which case move to a similar model as we had in the spring, knock the curriculum on the head for a few months and turn schools into designated childcare areas until it’s safe enough for all to return.

Fair points you make but are the 5 years and above more likely to carry the virus than teenagers

[Arriba]

Full lockdown, schools shut until the vaccines are rolled out. There's no other way in my opinion.

[Jimmy HaveHave]

Full lockdown, schools shut until the vaccines are rolled out. There's no other way in my opinion.

Same here couldn't agree more

[pauld]

Its quite the threat, they have to record the serial number of dose 1 and apply and allocate a second dose or arses will be severely kicked!

Well good. Licenses for vaccines aren't just issued for a giggle, and if there are protocols around them to ensure efficacy then they need to be followed

[Abrahammer]

One idea floated once the Oxford Vax came online was to basically get people out vaxxing people literally on the door step door to door on the doorstep, albeit that apparently has been discounted.

Just employee the checkout staff from Aldi to do the vaccinations and we will all be done by end of Jan

[pauld]

https://www.independentsage.org/29th-december-2020-emergency-statement-and-call-for-immediate-national-lockdown/

[mystical_goat]

Just employee the checkout staff from Aldi to do the vaccinations and we will all be done by end of Jan

 

[Bennett]

Healthcare workers in England have been told to reschedule appointments for the second dose of the Pfizer and BioNTech covid-19 vaccine after the government’s advisory committee decided that vaccinating as many people as possible with a first dose should be the priority.

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4978

No idea if this'll made a difference to the efficacy of the vaccine but it does seem like an odd decision