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« Reply #6510 on: Friday, December 11, 2020, 16:09:21 »

I wouldn't listen to flashheart he's been vaccinated and the Illuminati are controlling him via ramped up tesla coils.
Nah, Maureen from Coventry is controlling him via a Windows 10 patch update. Or something. 5G and that.
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« Reply #6511 on: Friday, December 11, 2020, 16:10:27 »

The money talked on this one - usually Governments won't pre-purchase an unapproved drug in such large quantities.  It completely removed all the usual barriers to development meaning they could fuck it up and be OK.  That cuts years off of development time.

Just to add to the party, I was listening to an interview with someone who works in pharma, they were saying that a huge amount of time is wasted normally in having to either get government money to runs trials etc or just in getting prototype drugs past finance committees at the companies to the next stage of development, delays often then mean teams being disbanded as staff move to other programmes as the company won't pay till they have committed.

As you note the west's generally ability to fuck this up has provided a large control to test against.

This made me smile as a more blunt risk analysis

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« Reply #6512 on: Friday, December 11, 2020, 16:18:36 »

My other half has no worries at all about the vaccine, and will soon have it herself as a nurse. She has volunteered to administer some jabs when needed, as it rolls out in the GW hospital.
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« Reply #6513 on: Friday, December 11, 2020, 17:17:43 »

Just to add to the party, I was listening to an interview with someone who works in pharma, they were saying that a huge amount of time is wasted normally in having to either get government money to runs trials etc or just in getting prototype drugs past finance committees at the companies to the next stage of development, delays often then mean teams being disbanded as staff move to other programmes as the company won't pay till they have committed.

It's exactly this. Jonathan Van-Tam explained it very well the day the vaccine approval was announced to the world. I can't seem to find a video of it now.
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« Reply #6514 on: Friday, December 11, 2020, 17:33:37 »

There's also the matter of volunteers for testing.

Volunteers would usually come in dribs and drabs, meaning it would be years before regulators could get the data they needed. This time they pretty much had all the volunteers they needed straight away.
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« Reply #6515 on: Friday, December 11, 2020, 17:59:08 »

In the 70s my brother volunteered to be a Guinea Pig at Porton Down under the guise of finding a vaccine for the common cold
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« Reply #6516 on: Friday, December 11, 2020, 18:08:09 »

Does he have superpowers now?
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« Reply #6517 on: Friday, December 11, 2020, 18:09:25 »

Well, he’s drunk like a fish for 50 years and is still here! I reckon he’s a living pickle!
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« Reply #6518 on: Friday, December 11, 2020, 18:40:14 »

More progress:

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54832563
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« Reply #6519 on: Monday, December 14, 2020, 09:53:18 »

The Sunday Times' award-winning investigative Insight team have revisited their earlier piece on how a series of bad decisions around the 1st wave led to the UK experiencing the worst health and economic outcomes from the 1st wave of any major developed nation. Their new piece looks at how the failure to learn from the mistakes of the 1st wave has led inevitably to a much worse second wave than we needed to have had, again both from an economic and health standpoint. Interestingly they point the finger at the previously much praised Sunak as being most at fault in arguing against the preventative measures scientists were calling for

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/48-hours-in-september-when-ministers-and-scientists-split-over-covid-lockdown-vg5xbpsfx

Non-firewall version:
https://archive.fo/UWnAm
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« Reply #6520 on: Monday, December 14, 2020, 10:07:31 »

The Current Bun, source of all knowledge, seem to think we (Swindon & Wilts) are at risk of entering tier 3 at the review.

Surely not?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13440003/is-my-area-moving-into-tier-3-covid-hotspots-at-risk/
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« Reply #6521 on: Monday, December 14, 2020, 10:18:52 »

The Current Bun, source of all knowledge, seem to think we (Swindon & Wilts) are at risk of entering tier 3 at the review.

Surely not?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13440003/is-my-area-moving-into-tier-3-covid-hotspots-at-risk/
TBF, much though I despise that rag, they are a preferred route for govt leaks so they may well have something. Or not
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« Reply #6522 on: Monday, December 14, 2020, 10:33:05 »

Why would be moving to tier 3?? All our scores are improving
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« Reply #6523 on: Monday, December 14, 2020, 10:44:02 »

Why would be moving to tier 3?? All our scores are improving

The govt have watched the last few STFC games and want to do us a favour
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« Reply #6524 on: Monday, December 14, 2020, 11:14:39 »

Same for Gloucestershire, few little spikes in places like the Forest of Dean and they are on about putting the whole county into tier 3. Looking at the figures the Wilts and Glos figures are pretty much the same, 0.9 R rate, less than 9% of Hospital bed used for COVID patients and slight overall drop in numbers over the last week or so. Fail to see how this would justify being moved to Tier 3 and will just make people even more disillusioned with the whole thing and more likely to ignore the rules altogether.
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