Coronavirus

[pauld]

And here is some of those actual proper scientists who do (with caveats) seem to think this could well be the real deal

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-pfizer-and-biontech-reporting-interim-results-from-phase-3-covid-19-vaccine-trial/

[Flashheart]

And here is some of those actual proper scientists who do (with caveats) seem to think this could well be the real deal

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-pfizer-and-biontech-reporting-interim-results-from-phase-3-covid-19-vaccine-trial/

I read (with cravats) first time around. That would have won me over no doubt.

[theakston2k]

Is this the vaccine that requires cold storage at -80C? Not exactly logistically friendly, we're going to need a fuck load of cold storage!

[pauld]

I read (with cravats) first time around. That would have won me over no doubt.

And smoking jackets. The vaccine should only be administered by doctors dressed as David Niven/Noel Coward.

[horlock07]

Is this the vaccine that requires cold storage at -80C? Not exactly logistically friendly, we're going to need a fuck load of cold storage!

Its -70C apparently, I know in the case I mentioned earlier the Trust purchased a cold storage unit for this very purpose a few months back.

[theakston2k]

Its -70C apparently, I know in the case I mentioned earlier the Trust purchased a cold storage unit for this very purpose a few months back.

It's more the logistics of getting it to end user that concerns me, for a developing country in hot climate it's about as useful as a chocolate teapot. Hopefully the Astra/Oxford vaccine can be stored at fridge temp.

[Nomoreheroes]

It's more the logistics of getting it to end user that concerns me, for a developing country in hot climate it's about as useful as a chocolate teapot. Hopefully the Astra/Oxford vaccine can be stored at fridge temp.

Good job its cold here then - More for us! Mwah-ha-ha!

[The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey]

Is this the vaccine that requires cold storage at -80C? Not exactly logistically friendly, we're going to need a fuck load of cold storage!

Perfect job for the ex-wife

[Hunk]

Even if there are some major flaws in this vaccine such as the cold-storage issue, at least we have something that can tide us over until something even better comes along. Once this vaccine starts to be administered there'll be much more data for the other vaccine hopefuls to work with and you'd hope that'll inspire them to improve on whatever comes first. And if efficacy really is 90% or thereabouts and there are no/only a few side effects you'd think the pros of this will outweigh the cons by default

[theakston2k]

only a few side effects you'd think the pros of this will outweigh the cons by default

That's the question that needs answering though isn't it?! There's rumours of the vaccine being forced on anyone over 18, which means for the vast majority of healthy people COVID doesn't really pose any risk so it needs to be pretty damn sure that this vaccine has next to no side effects or it's just counterproductive.

[pauld]

There's rumours of the vaccine being forced on anyone over 18

I really don't think there is, is there? Outside of "5G is a Bill Gates conspirussy" Facebook groups and #KBF twitter tags, that is.

[Hunk]

That's the question that needs answering though isn't it?! There's rumours of the vaccine being forced on anyone over 18, which means for the vast majority of healthy people COVID doesn't really pose any risk so it needs to be pretty damn sure that this vaccine has next to no side effects or it's just counterproductive.

Thats news to me. Where have you heard that?

[Batch]

Is this the vaccine that requires cold storage at -80C? Not exactly logistically friendly, we're going to need a fuck load of cold storage!

Hancock will sort it

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3376281

[Saxondale]

Im sure the husband / wife / old school friend of a tory has a company they formed 12 days ago that can provide the right equipment.  Just send them 25 million quid and they sort it.  They're frantically checking Amazon for those great offers from China right now Im sure.

 

[pauld]

Hancock will sort it

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3376281?istCompanyId=a74d8886-5df9-4baa-b776-166b3bf9111c&istFeedId=30f62ea9-9626-4cac-97c8-9ff3921f8558&istItemId=ipxaatiaa&istBid=t&gclsrc=aw.ds&&cmpid=GS001&_$ja=tsid:59157|acid:629-618-1342|cid:9563523552|agid:102230985510|tid:aud-378671944447:pla-919110584284|crid:423314716709|nw:g|rnd:2946574477999789063|dvc:m|adp:|mt:|loc:9045594&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=9563523552&utm_term=3376281&utm_content=shopping&utm_custom1=102230985510&utm_custom2=629-618-1342&gclid=Cj0KCQiA7qP9BRCLARIsABDaZzjOuU4Pevd3YTWiz4cTETcW0-ksBKpwoeSfo0WyvaPXcxQNaIFKt6YaAhUvEALw_wcB

Don't be ridiculous. As if Matt Hancock would buy a coolbox for 20 quid from Argos to trasnport the vaccine. He will buy the same thing from one of his horseracing mates at £375 each, except they'll turn out to be picnic hampers not coolboxes and only 2000 will actually be delivered with the remainder of the £2bn order stuck in an "administrative logjam". And all the handles will be broken.