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« Reply #4470 on: Monday, June 8, 2020, 09:32:44 » |
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There is no fucking nuance about burning the flag on the cenotaph, no excuse, not one
I didn’t know the location tbf and only know it even happened through reading this thread. Take the war memorial out of it, do you believe flag-burning can ever be justified? |
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« Reply #4471 on: Monday, June 8, 2020, 09:34:51 » |
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There is no fucking nuance about burning the flag on the cenotaph, no excuse, not one
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« Reply #4472 on: Monday, June 8, 2020, 09:35:50 » |
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It was on a war memorial though, burning the GB flag on a war memorial is a fucked up thing to do whichever way you look at it and cannot be justified!
Which is why it has been rightly almost universally condemned, looking at Twitter for instance I cannot see anyone saying it wasn't an entirely fucked up and stupid thing to do. What I can see is a lot of the usual far right suspects making great political capital out of it. |
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« Reply #4473 on: Monday, June 8, 2020, 09:37:00 » |
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Not sure I referred to war memorials or similar. I referred to the act of burning flags per se.
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« Reply #4474 on: Monday, June 8, 2020, 09:37:16 » |
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Take the war memorial out of it, do you believe flag-burning can ever be justified?
Not something I’d ever do but yes there would be probably be some circumstances where I could agree with the justification |
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« Reply #4475 on: Monday, June 8, 2020, 09:38:09 » |
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I didn’t know the location tbf and only know it even happened through reading this thread.
Take the war memorial out of it, do you believe flag-burning can ever be justified?
No. That's not just the British flag either. Flags are just colourful fabrics but they symbolize a nation. Burning a flag is an act of provocation which causes division, it happens around the world. We don't want division do we? |
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« Reply #4476 on: Monday, June 8, 2020, 09:38:35 » |
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How would you react to somebody urinating on a grave?
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« Reply #4477 on: Monday, June 8, 2020, 09:39:39 » |
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What I can see is a lot of the usual far right suspects making great political capital out of it.
Which is one of the many reasons it was a stupid thing to do. |
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« Reply #4478 on: Monday, June 8, 2020, 09:41:54 » |
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Any flag burning should be restricted to this
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« Reply #4479 on: Monday, June 8, 2020, 09:42:21 » |
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Which is why it has been rightly almost universally condemned, looking at Twitter for instance I cannot see anyone saying it wasn't an entirely fucked up and stupid thing to do. What I can see is a lot of the usual far right suspects making great political capital out of it.
The same goes for the Churchill graffiti as well though and there has been a lot of support for that. Yes he wasn't a saint by any stretch but he was still voted the 'Greatest Briton' so clearly to the majority of the UK he is a respected figure and can't just have small mobs being allowed to do as they please, it's also an instant way of turning the silent majority against them. |
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« Reply #4480 on: Monday, June 8, 2020, 09:42:47 » |
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No. That's not just the British flag either.
He wasn't trying to light the British flag. BTW did he actually achieve anything or did he just make a dick of himself like that bell end trying to burn the EU flag? |
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« Reply #4481 on: Monday, June 8, 2020, 09:45:14 » |
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The same goes for the Churchill graffiti as well though and there has been a lot of support for that. Yes he wasn't a saint by any stretch but he was still voted the 'Greatest Briton' so clearly to the majority of the UK he is a respected figure and can't just have small mobs being allowed to do as they please, it's also an instant way of turning the silent majority against them.
I think most agree that this is a bit of an own goal. |
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« Reply #4482 on: Monday, June 8, 2020, 09:47:50 » |
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No. That's not just the British flag either. Flags are just colourful fabrics but they symbolize a nation. Burning a flag is an act of provocation which causes division, it happens around the world. We don't want division do we?
I agree, we don’t want division. The EU flag was burnt (or attempted to be burnt - European safety standards actually made them hard to ignite) at pro-Brexit protests. I’m not at all saying this about you 4D but there are people who are apoplectic with rage at the burning of one flag who enjoyed the burning of another. |
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« Reply #4483 on: Monday, June 8, 2020, 09:49:51 » |
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I agree, we don’t want division.
The EU flag was burnt (or attempted to be burnt - European safety standards actually made them hard to ignite) at pro-Brexit protests. I’m not at all saying this about you 4D but there are people who are apoplectic with rage at the burning of one flag who enjoyed the burning of another.
Much the same as if one drew a venn diagram of those who got very excited about Saddam Hussein's statue being toppled now being outraged about the Bristol one. |
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« Reply #4484 on: Monday, June 8, 2020, 09:49:55 » |
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I agree, we don’t want division.
The EU flag was burnt (or attempted to be burnt - European safety standards actually made them hard to ignite) at pro-Brexit protests.
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