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Title: Luggy's return Post by: Weasel on Monday, August 4, 2008, 06:08:23 Obviously he'll get a good reception - always seemed a nice bloke, plus the recent revelations about his illness etc - but i hope we don't sing his name. He still buggered off and left us afterall.
'We are Malpas red and white army'..... anyone?! Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: mexico red on Monday, August 4, 2008, 06:14:06 if i was going he wouldnt get a good reception from me, solely for not keeping his fat gob shut concerning diamandis and co. He really didnt need to say anything and i tend to think if he had kept stum they may have gone that little bit sooner.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Batch on Monday, August 4, 2008, 06:40:08 He won't get a good reception from me either.
He dumped us at the 1st opportunity. Just like Wise, only his escape route came a little later in his tenure. He's just the same as everyone else, look after #1. Fine, but don't shout off about loyalty and lock ins. At least he took us up I suppose. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: herthab on Monday, August 4, 2008, 06:46:21 He's gone. He wasn't around long enough to be a leg-end.
He'll get the same reception from me as all managers of visiting clubs get (Unless they're Martin Allen) which is fuck all................. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, August 4, 2008, 06:49:35 Couldn't give a fuck about him personally, certainly won't get any sort of nice reception, because as far as i'm concerned he doesn't deserve one. I can't say i particularly liked the bloke anyway.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Monday, August 4, 2008, 07:17:35 He won't get a good reception from me either. He dumped us at the 1st opportunity. Just like Wise, only his escape route came a little later in his tenure. He's just the same as everyone else, look after #1. Fine, but don't shout off about loyalty and lock ins. At least he took us up I suppose. Sturrock didn't dump us at the first opportunity. He could have gone to Leicester. He still left but to his 2nd favourite club (other being Dundee ofcourse) If someone offered Colin Calderwood the Swindon job I'd expect he would do the same. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Batch on Monday, August 4, 2008, 07:23:37 He could have gone to Leicester. Was he definitely offered that job then? Calderwood would be the biggest idiot ever to leave Forest fr us, Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: dell boy on Monday, August 4, 2008, 07:24:26 Really rated Sturrock, thought he was a much better option than Wise.
He didn't show loyalty when the chips were down and as Mex says 'he should have kept out of the politics and kept his mouth shut, lost a lot of support with his backing of the old board', when he left we went into freefall for a while which I blame him for the unrest he caused - saying that I wish him good luck in the future, but I wont applaud him, he's not Swindon anymore simple as that. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Weasel on Monday, August 4, 2008, 07:29:27 http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/display.var.2416304.0.aljofree_treat_luggy_like_a_hero.php
Looks like Hasney'll be clapping on his own then.. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: dell boy on Monday, August 4, 2008, 07:32:40 Aljofree is a new boy here, he didn't really know the real dark days ... he should shut up as well.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: fatbury on Monday, August 4, 2008, 07:37:36 I wasnt Sturrocks biggest fan ... but he got results ... hence he will get a well earned applause from me
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, August 4, 2008, 07:39:08 I'm having a one man protest by staying at home.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Monday, August 4, 2008, 08:08:44 I cant afford to go. I would neither boo or clap sturrock if I was there. I dont blame him for leaving the crap he had to deal with, Perhaps some was brought on by himself but hey ho...
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: wiggy on Monday, August 4, 2008, 08:22:20 Sturrock got us promoted out of the hell that is League 2, and for that I am grateful. That he managed to bring some players to us against the backdrop of the board/finances etc is testimony to his personal reputation. He should be greeted well for doing this club a great service.
However, I am pleased we have a manager now who is trying to get us to play decent football. Whether it will work this far down the leagues (as opposed to Luggy's more direct approach) will become apparent very soon. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: janaage on Monday, August 4, 2008, 08:23:49 I ain't going but if I did I give him a clap and a warm welcome back. The bloke never did us any harm, and despite some average football, he did get us up!!
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: wheretherealredsare on Monday, August 4, 2008, 08:33:07 Could always give him a minute of one handed clapping.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Colin Todd on Monday, August 4, 2008, 08:43:23 I'm not going and if I did I wouldnt care enough to do anything towards sturrock.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Monday, August 4, 2008, 08:49:18 are people forgetting fallon? im going to boo that kiwi gambling cunt
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: BANGKOK RED on Monday, August 4, 2008, 08:52:00 are people forgetting fallon? im going to boo that kiwi gambling cunt He gambled Kiwi's? Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Monday, August 4, 2008, 08:59:57 and his nan
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: tans on Monday, August 4, 2008, 09:00:07 are people forgetting fallon? im going to boo that kiwi gambling cunt ace Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Weasel on Monday, August 4, 2008, 09:02:58 Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Arriba on Monday, August 4, 2008, 10:21:09 sturrock was an excellent manager for us.i aint going but would clap him if i was.
he came out in support of the old board.so what?they were his employers and might have leaned on him a bit?and he was hardly going to run them down, was he?he went back to the place where his family home is.and a club in a higher division etc,etc. fair play to him Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: nevillew on Monday, August 4, 2008, 10:35:06 and his nan One way of wasting his dough Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Weasel on Monday, August 4, 2008, 10:39:20 One way of wasting his dough I was always a bit (pesh)wari about him. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: dell boy on Monday, August 4, 2008, 10:40:49 One way of wasting his dough :tomato:Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, August 4, 2008, 12:28:39 I'm not going. I probably wouldn't react in any way if I did.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Power to people on Monday, August 4, 2008, 12:30:22 Sturrock didn't dump us at the first opportunity. He could have gone to Leicester. He still left but to his 2nd favourite club (other being Dundee ofcourse) If someone offered Colin Calderwood the Swindon job I'd expect he would do the same. Sturrock was never offered the Leicester job - FACT As for Calderwood, having spoken to Colin about this very subject yes he would love to manage here "one day" but he would not leave Forest to take a step down a level And Sturrock....he done well in getting us promoted when it could have gone pear shaped I will aknowledge the bloke but would start jumping up and down and shouting his name, I would merely be polite. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: flammableBen on Monday, August 4, 2008, 12:31:17 I'd like to run over and try and shake his hand, whilst mine are full with cigarettes and Guinness.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: adje on Monday, August 4, 2008, 12:34:44 Aljofree is a new boy here, he didn't really know the real dark days ... he should shut up as well. Agreed-he should shut up and bugger off-he's crap Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Lumps on Monday, August 4, 2008, 13:06:04 Look I know he left the club, but are people forgetting the situation that we were in at that time? we all need to work to pay the mortgage and bills. I'm sure Luggy's in the same boat. If your company were weeks from a winding up order and you were offered another, better job on more money what would you do?
I'm with Yeovil on his sticking his nose into club politics, but I don't know what sort of pressure to make some sort of statement might have been brought to bear on him by the club. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Spencer_White on Monday, August 4, 2008, 13:18:39 Il be clapping him. He got us over the line and we did turn out OK in the end.
His autobiography would be a good read for Town fans should he ever choose to do one. Just agree with the sentiments against Aljofree as well. End of the day we were very close to having a club robbed of us, and an overpaid, overrated, big mouth centre half's opinion isnt going to change Paul Sturrocks legacy at the club. You can ask Aljofree, but dont tell us what to think. Paul Sturrocks time here was a mixed bag. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: reeves4england on Monday, August 4, 2008, 13:21:03 Personaly I have no hard feelings towards Sturrock. He's a decent manager who came here and did a job. Not a STFC legend by any stretch of the imagination but he doesn't deserve any stick
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Batch on Monday, August 4, 2008, 13:41:00 Slight aside, well not really. Is Luggy even bothering to turn up tonight??
http://www.pafc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10364~1357920,00.html Quote ARGYLE will field a young and inexperienced side for the final friendly of the pre-season campaign at Swindon Town. Head of Youth coaching Mike Pejic will marshal the troops at the County Ground, where former Pilgrims Lilian Nalis and Hasney Aljofree ply their trade. Manager Paul Sturrock has decided against fielding an experienced team for the meeting with his former club, preferring to focus on training ground work ahead of Saturday's Championship opener against Wolves. Article continues Advertisement Click Here! Pejic said: "I was originally under the impression we would be taking some first-team players who hardly appeared on Saturday but that has changed, and the manager is now doing a full week of training. "It will be a good experience for the kids, irrespective of the score. We have got some first-year apprentices as well as first-year professionals. "I want them to give a good account of themselves. I have worked on certain things that I will need to see in the match. "Damien McCrory has worked hard and a lot of them were very fit last season. "I am going to try Dan Smith in a different role just behind the front man. I am also looking forward to seeing Bolasie in action. "We are particularly inexperienced at the back with the young kid Jordan Trott. Ryan Brett will fill in at centre-back because Ben Gerring is injured." Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: janaage on Monday, August 4, 2008, 13:47:23 Sturrock didn't dump us at the first opportunity. He could have gone to Leicester. He still left but to his 2nd favourite club (other being Dundee ofcourse) If someone offered Colin Calderwood the Swindon job I'd expect he would do the same. Dundee is Sturrock's favourite club? I bet you as much money as you can stump up that Dundee FC are not Sturrock's no.1 club. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: dell boy on Monday, August 4, 2008, 13:49:46 Dundee United maybe?
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: fatbury on Monday, August 4, 2008, 15:10:05 Apparently he wont be there tonight by the looks of things .. its our first team versus their youths .. bit of an insult to be honest!
actually thinking about it .. looks like we might have a weaker side out too if Corr and other trying to gain fitness are playing .. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Power to people on Monday, August 4, 2008, 15:54:47 It is a home game for us so it will be a first team workout, but obviously it makes sense as it is a freindly to give Corr, Aljofree, Peacock etc a run out to help them with fitness
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, August 4, 2008, 15:56:52 Sturrock will be there tonight, surely!?! Not that it matters.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: janaage on Monday, August 4, 2008, 15:58:08 Dundee United maybe? Big flipping difference Dell. I hate it when people refer to "Dundee Utd" as "Dundee", it's flipping lazy and disrespectful, to both clubs. Mini rrrant over. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, August 4, 2008, 16:02:11 Big flipping difference Dell. I hate it when people refer to "Dundee Utd" as "Dundee", it's flipping lazy and disrespectful, to both clubs. Mini rrrant over. Fans of Manchester, Sheffield and Bristol clubs have the same hatred to that laziness. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: janaage on Monday, August 4, 2008, 16:10:12 Agreed Rich but generally people don't forget to include the United, City, Forest, County, United or Wednesday in their names. Gary's meant to be some super football website editor, he won't get far talk shit like Sturrock likes "Dundee". I want a full apology, nothing more, nothing less.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: mexico red on Monday, August 4, 2008, 16:11:31 fuck the apology, lets have a lynch mob, i wouldnt worry fella all those jocks look the same anyway
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: janaage on Monday, August 4, 2008, 16:18:35 Right that's decided then, due to this highly unprofessional error and lack of apology on STFC Gazza'a behalf, he is to be hung drawn and quartered before the Tranmere match. Please feel free to come along to witness this historic moment in STFC's history.
Post death his limbs will be severed and sent to the four corners of the Football league as a warning to all football website editors across the land, to not mix up to local rivals, or else. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: nevillew on Monday, August 4, 2008, 16:20:14 You're only giving him the publicity he craves with that approach janaage
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: janaage on Monday, August 4, 2008, 16:21:45 What should we do Nev, let him live? Is that what you're saying, if so, that could work...
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, August 4, 2008, 16:22:27 Fucking hell Jan, he probably didn't have time to proof read his post. I see your forum name is all in lower case, plus you've not even separated the names 'Jan and Aage'. In fact, you could have also used some diacritic signs over some of the letters.
How lazy of you. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Monday, August 4, 2008, 16:26:30 Gary's meant to be some super football website editor, he won't get far talk shit like Sturrock likes "Dundee". I want a full apology, nothing more, nothing less. Erm I don't re-call ever saying I was some super football website editor infact I am looking for someone to take over it. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: janaage on Monday, August 4, 2008, 16:28:53 Erm I don't re-call ever saying I was some super football website editor infact I am looking for someone to take over it. Don't try and wriggle out of this one Gazza! Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: janaage on Monday, August 4, 2008, 16:29:50 Fucking hell Jan, he probably didn't have time to proof read his post. I see your forum name is all in lower case, plus you've not even separated the names 'Jan and Aage'. In fact, you could have also used some diacritic signs over some of the letters. How lazy of you. Sorry Si, I must have over looked the TEF rule that states you're the only person who can talk shit on the site. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Monday, August 4, 2008, 16:30:29 Don't try and wriggle out of this one Gazza! :swordfight: :swordfight: :swordfight: :swordfight::D Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: janaage on Monday, August 4, 2008, 16:31:21 You bring the swords and I'll meet you outside the trust office, 1455 on Saturday. On guard!!
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Monday, August 4, 2008, 16:31:26 On a serious note. Glad I am not going tonight (being a part timer) due to Sturrock sending a youth team. Shows us a lack of respect IMO.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Monday, August 4, 2008, 16:32:18 You bring the swords and I'll meet you outside the trust office, 1455 on Saturday. On guard!! Was thinking the jousting sticks from Gladiators but sadly there are no stands for said event Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, August 4, 2008, 16:32:23 Am I missing something here? There are actually football teams in Scotland?
That's mental. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, August 4, 2008, 16:33:41 Sorry Si, I must have over looked the TEF rule that states you're the only person who can talk shit on the site. :fishing: I caught me a salmon. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, August 4, 2008, 16:46:11 Sturrock hate those Scumdee bastards!!! :nod:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxHYwIRI88M Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, August 4, 2008, 17:36:10 Heh! Heh!
Scumdee 8) What were the words of the song? Something something Paul Sturrock...Sorry I don't speak Jock. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, August 4, 2008, 17:37:36 "Paul Sturrock he fucking hates Dundee" Repeat.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Spencer_White on Monday, August 4, 2008, 17:53:17 I thought Dundee and Dundee United didnt really hate each other much at all?
I would have gone tonight, but im not paying £8 to watch their youth side. We shouldnt really have bothered arranging this one, crowd will be pretty sparse. As Gazza says, a bit disrespectful all round really. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: yeo on Monday, August 4, 2008, 17:57:25 I'm with Yeovil on his sticking his nose into club politics, but I don't know what sort of pressure to make some sort of statement might have been brought to bear on him by the club. Ive not posted on this thread. Did you mean Mex? That is my view though,I always copy Mex he's my all time hero. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, August 4, 2008, 18:31:07 Swindon Town 1st Half: Peter Brezovan; Jack Smith, Patrick Kanyuka, Hasney Aljofree, Callum Kennedy; Anthony McNamee, Craig Easton , Lilian Nalis, Michael Timlin; Lee Peacock, Barry Corr
Swindon Town 2nd Half: Phil Smith; Nathan Thompson, Jerel Ifil, Will Evans, Hasney Aljofree; J-P McGovern, Craig Easton, Chris Allen, Callum Kennedy; Billy Paynter, Ben Joyce Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: yeo on Monday, August 4, 2008, 18:31:57 should I have heard of Will Evans?
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, August 4, 2008, 18:34:32 should I have heard of Will Evans? He's a yoof - bench player in the tonking by Charlton last season. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, August 4, 2008, 18:46:25 FFS ... Speedway on the radio?? I ask you. WE WANT FOOOOOOOOOOOOTBALL
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: lambourn red on Monday, August 4, 2008, 18:49:56 Sturrock not even their
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, August 4, 2008, 18:50:53 Sturrock not even their It shouldn't matter but I think that's abit off - play the youths fair enough but to not even turn up? Hmmm... Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: fatbury on Monday, August 4, 2008, 19:17:25 I know ... disrespectful .. hope we get Plymouth in the Cup :)
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: yeo on Monday, August 4, 2008, 19:21:21 God will punish him for this slight!!
Maybe he already has........... Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: yeo on Monday, August 4, 2008, 19:27:49 think we just scored
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, August 4, 2008, 19:29:24 think we just scored Did ye hear a roar Yeovil? Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: yeo on Monday, August 4, 2008, 19:29:58 yup
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, August 4, 2008, 19:31:13 yup Ex-Plymouth youth Ben Joyce with the goalio. Adver not happy either.... Argyle disappointed a small County Ground crowd by fielding a virtual youth side, featuring seven of Joyce's former teammates. The Argyle lot... Lloyd Saxton Shane White Ashley Hodgkinson Ryan Brett Jordan Trott Yala Bolasie Brian McCaul Sean Kinsella Damien McCrory Dan Smith Joe Mason Substitutes Josh Grant Greg Moseley Liam Head Lewis Edwards Tom Brooks Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: suttonred on Monday, August 4, 2008, 19:58:16 Someone on thisis saying Betsy is at the game, dont know whther it's bollocks or not.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: lambourn red on Monday, August 4, 2008, 19:59:37 I just caught Ed Hadwin saying it earlier on
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, August 4, 2008, 20:00:21 Someone on thisis saying Betsy is at the game, dont know whther it's bollocks or not. Fear not, Nightshift is on the case. Is Nightshift one of us? Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: suttonred on Monday, August 4, 2008, 20:01:05 Good enough for me.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, August 4, 2008, 20:02:36 1-0. Ben Joyce.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, August 4, 2008, 20:03:29 1-0. Ben Joyce. Smooth move Quick Draw Magraw. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, August 4, 2008, 20:06:39 Didn't see it clearly in your post, ergo I win.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, August 4, 2008, 20:08:43 Didn't see it clearly in your post, ergo I win. You'll never win. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Weasel on Monday, August 4, 2008, 20:10:52 just got home in time for dragons den. Lacklustre first half, can tell players are saving themselves for the weekend.
Corr got half an hour and manatee did some stepovers. Tap in for joyce after pull back from, i think, Timlin. Playing against a load of kids, lucky if the attendance hits 2k. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: yeo on Monday, August 4, 2008, 20:15:27 possible roar..
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, August 4, 2008, 20:17:29 Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: yeo on Monday, August 4, 2008, 20:17:54 and another
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, August 4, 2008, 20:18:52 and another How very Alan Partridge of you.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzSQ3xgoh-w Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: fatbury on Monday, August 4, 2008, 20:19:04 sounds like a penalty?
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Hexagon on Monday, August 4, 2008, 20:19:33 3-0 Paynter i hear.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: fatbury on Monday, August 4, 2008, 20:20:34 its 3-0 ...
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: fatbury on Monday, August 4, 2008, 20:21:09 Joyce 2nd and Paynter .. Yeovil does it again :)
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: yeo on Monday, August 4, 2008, 20:21:16 see dont doubt the Yeo roars!
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, August 4, 2008, 20:22:07 see dont doubt the Yeo roars! I for one, never will. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: fatbury on Monday, August 4, 2008, 20:22:20 youve got good ears
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, August 4, 2008, 20:43:34 Well that's it - a 3-0 win. Very disappointed with Plymouth's option to leave the entire first team out (it shouldn't, but has irritated me).
2,325 went which is good considering. ....and now, Tranmere Rovers. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, August 4, 2008, 20:45:47 So was Betsy there or not? Got the impression from Fitton's interview on Points West before the game that would be signing someone tomorrow. I guess it's Casal but you never know.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: michael on Monday, August 4, 2008, 21:01:37 Boooooooring game, and cold too.
Plymouth's #7 looked a good player on the right for them. Super fast, strong, direct... I am guessing from the list above it was Yala Bolasie. He would be a better option than, say, Mark Marshall, but I can't imagine Plymouth would want to let him go. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, August 4, 2008, 21:02:26 Yala Bolasie isn't a youth - he was brought in from Malta this summer.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: michael on Monday, August 4, 2008, 21:06:47 Easily their stand-out player, gave Aljofree all kinds of problems.
Faster than Ifil as well, which you don't see very often. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, August 4, 2008, 21:07:47 Also, you could say tonight proved how much work Pook has to do to win Malpas over. Wasn't in either of the 2 starting line-ups this evening, behind Chris Allen in the pecking order.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: OneAndrewFitton on Monday, August 4, 2008, 21:10:31 I wonder who Steve Coppell was watching? Mcnamee maybe? also noticed from looking at some pics on the Plymouth site that Mick Harford was there and Paul Wotton.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: michael on Monday, August 4, 2008, 21:10:48 Is Vincent injured? He didn't play either half tonight either; Calum Kennedy left back in the first half and Hasney in the second.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: michael on Monday, August 4, 2008, 21:12:31 I wonder who Steve Coppell was watching? Mcnamee maybe? also noticed from looking at some pics on the Plymouth site that Mick Harford was there and Paul Wotton. 16th August: Reading v Plymouth?? Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: OneAndrewFitton on Monday, August 4, 2008, 21:13:26 16th August: Reading v Plymouth?? No they were there tonight, quote from Plymouth site's match report: "If the locals were disappointed with Argyle's under-strength team selection, it was nothing compared to a couple of interested spectators - Luton boss Mick Harford and Reading manager Steve Coppell". Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, August 4, 2008, 21:14:04 I wonder who Steve Coppell was watching? Mcnamee maybe? also noticed from looking at some pics on the Plymouth site that Mick Harford was there and Paul Wotton. Harford is an interesting one - Hopefully Coppell (if it wasn't a botched opposition scout - which is quite obviously was) was watching someone like Dan Smith of Plymouth who has played in their first team. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: OneAndrewFitton on Monday, August 4, 2008, 21:19:43 Look at this link: http://www.pafc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10364~1358300,00.html
You will see a pic of Coppell in the Arkell's and also Harford. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 4, 2008, 21:19:58 Coppell and Harford were there for a meet up of ex STFC assistant managers under the Plymuff chief scout.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: stfc11 on Monday, August 4, 2008, 21:20:23 So was Betsy there or not? Got the impression from Fitton's interview on Points West before the game that would be signing someone tomorrow. I guess it's Casal but you never know. Think Betsy was in the Arkells heard a few different people talking and apparently he wants to sign for us but he has a year left on his contract at City, so they're trying to sort it out so he's signed before Saturday. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, August 4, 2008, 21:20:36 Look at this link: http://www.pafc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10364~1358300,00.html You will see a pic of Coppell in the Arkell's and also Harford. But it also states the reason both were there. Seems that Plymouth suprised everyone with this line-up. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: argylelad on Monday, August 4, 2008, 21:21:12 I would imagine Coppell was there as Argyle play Reading on the 16th.
And Harford as we have Luton in the Carling Cup 1st Round. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, August 4, 2008, 21:23:05 Clever stuff from Luggy. He puts a youth team out knowing that Coppell and Harford would be there.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, August 4, 2008, 21:23:49 Clever stuff from Luggy. He puts a youth team out knowing that Coppell and Harford would be there. Always one step ahead eh.... Wouldn't be suprised if that was the case. Still, boooooo. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: OneAndrewFitton on Monday, August 4, 2008, 21:24:06 Hehehehehehe, i never read that bit soapy tit wank.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Luci on Monday, August 4, 2008, 21:41:03 I think they said Dowie was there as well ahead of the QPR game Tuesday.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Luci on Monday, August 4, 2008, 21:54:11 All in all, Nalis didn't impress me tonight, seemed off the boil but understand he needs to improve match fitness and be a bit sharper etc.
All in all pre season wise I have to say I am suprised by Jack Smith. After pretty much being told he could look elsewhere for a club, he has come back, clearly worked hard and has been performing as well as Ive seen him previously. I know its only pre season but still. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: crouchy on Monday, August 4, 2008, 21:56:13 Confirmed on OS that Betsy was there tonight
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: axs on Monday, August 4, 2008, 22:04:04 Nallis still looks a bit poo to me. Joyce was good although a little over-eager. jerel was quality, dealt with everything. Macnamee was entertaining but I think he either needs to get more ball or drop inside to collect it as he was under-used tonight. Will Evans looked solid after a slightly shaky start.
MOM was Paynter in the second half, so many good headers I lost count, Joyce played well off them. Kennedy looked good on the left when he got his confidence up although I worry about his strength on the ball. Smith in goal was good, I'd honestly start with him over Brez. JP had a reasonable half, better than most of last season. My ideal starting line up on Saturday would be: Smith, Ifil, Kanyuke, Smith, Aljofree / vincent / kennedy (cop out i know) Timlin, Easton, Macnamee, JPM Paynter, Cox Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: yeo on Monday, August 4, 2008, 22:06:39 hurrah for Smithy!
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Luci on Monday, August 4, 2008, 22:08:17 Agree with that apart from Vincent not looking to be fit for Saturday.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: pauld on Monday, August 4, 2008, 22:54:36 Clever stuff from Luggy. He puts a youth team out knowing that Coppell and Harford would be there. Not quite the reaction from a lot of people at the game - spoke to a good few people (including a couple of muff fans) who were under the impression they'd be watching a first team side, under Sturrock and were pretty hacked off he'd seemingly pulled both himself and his first choice side out at the last minute. "Disrespectful" was a word that kept coming up, and this most strongly from those who'd been quite keen on the man himself until tonight. EDIT: Should have added, thought "disappointing" would have been more the mark, but then perhaps I expect less from pre-season friendlies. Even if you do get a nominal "first-choice" side, they usually play well within themselves anyway, and I wasn't that fussed about seeing a tiny Sturrock-like figure waving briefly from the dugout but maybe that's just me. Quote of the night goes to Joe, just turned 6 and attending only his second evening game - 10 minutes from the end, he's clearly flagging and tired. "Are you all right Joe?" "No, Daddy I'm completely fed up", "Do you want to go now then?" (in outraged tone) "No, Daddy, I'm staying till the end". Already knows what it is to be a Town fan - totally fed up, but determined to stick it out. I was so proud. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: larwood on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 06:40:58 Didn't go myself,would have done but not really any point knowing they were going to put out a youth team.Not a very professional thing to do and considering Sturrock used to be out manager you'd think he'd give the fans who used to sing his name a bit of a show.Even the fact there were obviously other managers there to watch his side its no excuse.Would have been annoyed if i was a Plymouth fan who'd made the journey let alone a Town fan!
Saw Points west and they had a preview of our season,always reasuring to see Fitton talking so much sense.Also Axs got on to it as well,celebrating like a loon in the opening montage,what a star :D Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: herthab on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 06:44:08 I couldn't give a toss about Sturrock not being there last night, to me it's an example of the regard he holds Swindon Town and its fans in.
Shame about the tean muff sent though, although it was still entertaining imo. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Batch on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 07:29:56 ^^^^^ What he said ^^^^^^
Also, don't you just love it when you watch 5 minutes of the game and then have to mercy dash home just in time to puke your guts up down the toilet. Thanks for the stomache bug Batch Jr. Who stood out in the game? Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 07:40:44 Quote of the night goes to Joe, just turned 6 and attending only his second evening game - 10 minutes from the end, he's clearly flagging and tired. "Are you all right Joe?" "No, Daddy I'm completely fed up", "Do you want to go now then?" (in outraged tone) "No, Daddy, I'm staying till the end". Already knows what it is to be a Town fan - totally fed up, but determined to stick it out. I was so proud. Superb! You've done a great job there, Paul. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 07:48:03 It was annoying having to watch a muff youth team as well....
Was was Mcnamee played on the right hand side in the 1st half thuoght that a bit strange..although he done well with J Smith Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 07:53:09 Nallis still looks a bit poo to me. Joyce was good although a little over-eager. jerel was quality, dealt with everything. Macnamee was entertaining but I think he either needs to get more ball or drop inside to collect it as he was under-used tonight. Will Evans looked solid after a slightly shaky start. paynter is paid to score and missed two sitters againMOM was Paynter in the second half, so many good headers I lost count, Joyce played well off them. Kennedy looked good on the left when he got his confidence up although I worry about his strength on the ball. Smith in goal was good, I'd honestly start with him over Brez. JP had a reasonable half, better than most of last season. My ideal starting line up on Saturday would be: Smith, Ifil, Kanyuke, Smith, Aljofree / vincent / kennedy (cop out i know) Timlin, Easton, Macnamee, JPM Paynter, Cox Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 07:53:51 Aljofree at left back was a bit good. Eliminated the risk when he bombs forward, and looked very good. Would also allow us to play Ifil and Kanyuke in the center together. Callum Kennedy and Ben Joyce were outstanding, Kennedy was steady at left back, but when he moved to the wing at half time he came alive. Chris Allen was pretty good as well. Quite excited about this year, although i usually am at the start of the season, I'm sure it'll wear off in a few games.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: reeves4england on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 13:41:16 paynter is paid to score and missed two sitters again I think you've just taken axs' slightly blinkered view and contrasted it with your own. You both have valid points though. Paynter had a good game on the whole but really should have had atleast one more goal.McNamee was pretty good but I was a bit pissed off that he got a huge round of applause for doing a few stepovers then playing a shite cross over everybody's head. Joyce looked good - he was always getting into good positions and I'd like to see him get some more first team game-time soon. Can't really comment on the keepers as neither was tested much. Oh, and what was going on with JPM? He actually looked interested! A decent performance from him, perhaps a result of the talk about Kevin Betsy - hopefully he'll continue that in the league. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: janaage on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 14:04:27 McNamee was pretty good but I was a bit pissed off that he got a huge round of applause for doing a few stepovers then playing a shite cross over everybody's head. See I don't agree with this point of view. Up watching Hibs on Sat made me realise how good it is to see players trying things. Shiels was running his heart out playing some lovely balls throught the boro defence. I see McNamee's step overs as the same, he's trying to beat the man, okay so his final ball may have been shocking, but me applauding his attempt shows encouragement, and hopefully him hearing the crowd not get on his back for a shite final ball, but applaud his previous work will make him attempt it again, next time his final ball maybe a killer. That's what support is, try focussing on the positives for a change. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 14:05:58 did you go with Johnno R4E? I spoke to him about it earlier
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 14:11:06 See I don't agree with this point of view. Up watching Hibs on Sat made me realise how good it is to see players trying things. Shiels was running his heart out playing some lovely balls throught the boro defence. I see McNamee's step overs as the same, he's trying to beat the man, okay so his final ball may have been shocking, but me applauding his attempt shows encouragement, and hopefully him hearing the crowd not get on his back for a shite final ball, but applaud his previous work will make him attempt it again, next time his final ball maybe a killer. That's what support is, try focussing on the positives for a change. You're exactly right there JA, one of the reasons why English football lags behind say Spain, is that skill with the ball is driven out of players from a young age, not only by coaches but by crowds, who want to see a bit of blood and guts stuff. Players like McManatee, can only perform if encouraged....it probably will only take a couple of home defeats before some are on his case. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: janaage on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 15:01:07 It one of those aspects of town fans that frustrate me. Sometimes I'll give a player a "well done" as it were even if their pass goes straight to the opposition centre half, because you could see what our player was trying to do. Obviously if said player then does exactly same thing time after time then you can say come on fella, that ain't gonna work.
But (and I don't want to go on about this) at Hibs the fans do have a different get behind the lads spirit, the fans don't just turn up and sit back waiting to be entertained they involve themselves in getting behind the team. Wish the CG regulars were a bit more like that! Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Colin Todd on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 15:09:18 Some fans offer very good support that can insire their players. Ours offer very good support AFTER being inspired by our players.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 15:15:00 But we all clap out of time, is that not good enough?
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: janaage on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 15:18:09 I would agree with that Colin!
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Dozno9 on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 15:24:57 I agree. Our players are not going to make that killer pass each time, get a shot on target each time, get the cross in perfectly. If they did they wouldn't be playing for us. You can appreciate the vision of the players and the effort they put in without the need to slate them everytime they cock it up. At times I do wonder what some of our fans expect when they turn up for a game, you aint gonna get premiership quality. I just want effort and hard work.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: wiggy on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 15:29:09 I want more than just effort and hard work - Pook gives us that. I want to see a willingness to try to play football properly, and judging by the Cardiff friendly Malpas could get the team doing that. Whether we are succesful or not, I don't think it will be boring this season.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Dozno9 on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 15:31:26 When I refer to effort and hard work I mean in the vein that you say, an effort to play the right type of football when needed.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: wiggy on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 15:35:06 When I refer to effort and hard work I mean in the vein that you say, an effort to play the right type of football when needed. We are unanimous Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 15:46:37 Is that catching?
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: wiggy on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 15:52:04 Is that catching? Only if you shake hands without washing first Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 15:52:41 Noted.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Spencer_White on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 17:37:56 In terms of fans getting behind the team, I think its got worse since Fitton took over. We just got used to being terminally bankrupt and usually terminally shit. Shocked me how lazy the crowd were for the Cheltenham game. Yes, the team had thrown away any sort of play off chance. But it really was eery. The fact that weve always lived close to the edge financially has provided a lot of motivation for supporters in the past.
I dont think anyone need worry about the crowd not encouraging McNamee, I think everyone has been won over. There are two players who are going to get it in the neck if they dont perform this season. One is JPM, who if he gets stick, I wouldnt be too bothered at all. But I think if the crowd get on Paynter's back then it might really hurt him and kill off his career here. He works really hard for us, and he needs to have the confidence to shoot whenever he see's an opportunity. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: reeves4england on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 18:06:52 See I don't agree with this point of view. Up watching Hibs on Sat made me realise how good it is to see players trying things. Shiels was running his heart out playing some lovely balls throught the boro defence. Calm down Jan - I make one slightly less than pessimistic point and all of a sudden I don't know how to support my team? Fair enough the lad was trying things, and yes the stepovers were good. I wasn't suggesting we should slate him for his bad cross. My point was more to do with the fact that had he not done the stepovers but whipped in a delightful ball that was headed wide he would have got no credit. And I agree with you about the through ball straight to a centre back, they can often be verging on brilliance. I just think people are impressed by the wrong things sometimes that's all. I see McNamee's step overs as the same, he's trying to beat the man, okay so his final ball may have been shocking, but me applauding his attempt shows encouragement, and hopefully him hearing the crowd not get on his back for a shite final ball, but applaud his previous work will make him attempt it again, next time his final ball maybe a killer. That's what support is, try focussing on the positives for a change. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: janaage on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 18:08:48 Flippin hell fella, it was nothing personal? It was intended as a general point mate, thought up from something you said that's all bud, not having a go at all.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: yeo on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 18:12:30 He he Jans upsetting everyone these days.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: janaage on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 18:13:12 He he Jans upsetting everyone these days. I know, I'm starting to take it personally Yeovil. Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 18:13:26 He he Jans upsetting everyone these days. The guy just doesn't give a fuck :D Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 18:16:58 Bloody happy clappers
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: janaage on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 18:27:11 I'm no happy clapper, I'm a moaning b'stard (and proud)!
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 21:15:52 You're a 100% red doom-maker
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: janaage on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 22:53:37 I am optimistic about the season though, which is surprising. I feel even more positive after watching eagle vs shark, nice film that, I'm gonna go and give my poorly mrs a big cuddle now.
Good night all!! Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 22:57:09 Shag her up the arse, that'll make her feel better.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: janaage on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 22:58:22 Hmmmn, I'm not really sure it will Si, but thanks for the advice.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 23:15:49 You'll have to ask Mex for advice then.
Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 23:19:42 Shag her up the arse, that'll make her feel better. Worked for oxford fan, and i'm sure someone's going for an interview tomorrow with the same approach. 100 years ago that could have been peddled as a miracle cure!Title: Re: Luggy's return Post by: nevillew on Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 07:17:00 Worked for oxford fan, and i'm sure someone's going for an interview tomorrow with the same approach. 100 years ago that could have been peddled as a miracle cure! Either that or leeches. |