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Spud

« Reply #15 on: Monday, January 30, 2006, 13:53:05 »

OMG the directors dont live in Swindon, lets burn the club down now.  :wanker:
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« Reply #16 on: Monday, January 30, 2006, 14:24:32 »

what a grade a cunt.

you got your fucking 'forest', why must you continue to fight the club's proposals to move forward?
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Piemonte

« Reply #17 on: Monday, January 30, 2006, 14:38:42 »

Shut up SY. You dont live in Swindon therefore you have no right to an opinion at all. In fact you sholdnt even be allowed into our town. This is a local town for local people Wink
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« Reply #18 on: Monday, January 30, 2006, 14:44:45 »

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Shut up SY. You dont live in Swindon therefore you have no right to an opinion at all. In fact you sholdnt even be allowed into our town. This is a local town for local people Wink


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« Reply #19 on: Monday, January 30, 2006, 15:05:30 »

I really wouldn't grace those mutterings much attention at all.

At the end of the day everyone is entitled to say their piece and while the tone attempts to imply otherwise it remains the opinions and feelings of on individual.  

Rather amusing is the fact that Mr Doyle almost appears to be aspiring to become the letter page equivalent of what the Internet generation would call a 'troll'.  

Take a step back, re-read the article, work around the flannel and you have nothing that adds anything particularly new or attempts to develop the debate from a different angle/perspective.  In fact I challenge anyone to pick up a local/national rag and not find an almost identical letter written from the local Johnny Doyle or his reporter equivalent looking for a filler story.  

Schools and hospitals always need funding, roads constantly require repairing and third world countries will always need aid.  It's a debate that rages the length and breadth of 'Little Britain' you'll find a 'Doyley' in the smallest hamlet to the House of Commons.  Provide the opportunity for a little self publicity and regardless of the relevance to the individual you will find someone willing to take up the baton for the crusade.  

I'd still say that some of it is relevant, very much so.  Questions over the directors for instance once you get past the league of gentleman's 'this is a local club for local people but I watch my football on Sky' jest there are issues that need to be addressed.  Not quite in the way the clumsy cock-eyed view presented in the letter and article but the fact is nevertheless there are questions that should be answered.

One of the biggest problems is that there has been nothing or very little released by the club of any substance that goes any way to clarify the latest proposals.  Its catch twenty two in some respects and as demonstrated in the article if you release details of a proposal it provides individuals with the opportunity to portray as fact.

As far as I know it's been agreed between the council and the club that the housing on the site proposed to fund the stadium in part is not possible or realistic.  With hindsight of course this info should never have been circulated by the club quite as publicly as it did.
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« Reply #20 on: Monday, January 30, 2006, 15:08:57 »

The thing is Daz, your average Joe Public who isn't up to speed with what's been going on, will begin to base their opinions on tripe like this, which is worrying.

It's always easier for people who are 'anti' stuff to get wound up and make their feelings heard. We all need to make sure that the 'for' side is heard too.
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« Reply #21 on: Monday, January 30, 2006, 15:12:20 »

The reason the club may not have released more details as yet, is because they agreed with the Council not to issue any more releases without both sides first agreeing to the content (Clr Nick Martin decided to ignore this with his recent letter).

I think this was to stop the very problem of both sides just seeming to counter each other through the press.
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mattboyslim

« Reply #22 on: Monday, January 30, 2006, 15:17:33 »

Well said Dazzza.  Although IMHO if and/or when the club leaves the CG what will replace it.  I'd bet good money it won't be a fantastic athletics facility and improved cricket ground with a world of open space.  It'll be retail or residential designed to pay off the SBC debts.  I get annoyed by the short-sightedness of people.  Mores the point I now cannot read the adver letters page.  it's either inconsequential nonsense, bitching between local political activists or just ill though out garbage from people like Doyle, or G Scott amongst other self-righteous fools.  I don't know what's worse the people writing the letters or the Adver for publishing them. Do they not realise some people form their opinions on the basis of this drivel.
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« Reply #23 on: Monday, January 30, 2006, 15:22:45 »

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Well said Dazzza.  Although IMHO if and/or when the club leaves the CG what will replace it.  I'd bet good money it won't be a fantastic athletics facility and improved cricket ground with a world of open space.  It'll be retail or residential designed to pay off the SBC debts.  I get annoyed by the short-sightedness of people.  Mores the point I now cannot read the adver letters page.  it's either inconsequential nonsense, bitching between local political activists or just ill though out garbage from people like Doyle, or G Scott amongst other self-righteous fools.  I don't know what's worse the people writing the letters or the Adver for publishing them. Do they not realise some people form their opinions on the basis of this drivel.


A big Casino with lots of bright flashing neon lights, 24 hour opening and lots of noisy extras thrown in.  Not to mention the conversion of a few houses in County Road to brothels under the new legislation and a 24 hours pub.  All fits in with Recreational uses as far as I can see.
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« Reply #24 on: Monday, January 30, 2006, 15:26:51 »

Those are some of the most crappily thought out comments I have ever read (aside from Rich's  Wink ).

I wonder how many people use the central library? Shall we find out who those people are and make them solely pay for a new one? No, because once built (if ever) it might encourage others to go and they could gain the benefits from them facilities as well. The same could be said for a new stadium, with other new facilities that many in the community can use.

So the directors do not live in Swindon or are not from Swindon. How many companies are headed by local people? Not the bigger ones that's for sure!

If everyone watched football down the pub half the teams would disappear. You wouldn't get FA cup matches on the television and no 'giant killing' moments.

Clearly the CG redevlopment is ambitious, but when you look at the facts and figures it is not a one sided argument against; there is in fact a good argument for development. Obviously many non-STFC fans hold biased views against such a proposal and the opposite can be said of STFC fans. I can see why the council are concerned but if it was their own pet project I bet they'd happily waste buckets of money on it.
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Melksham Red

« Reply #25 on: Monday, January 30, 2006, 16:08:00 »

God I hate him. He's always got a fucking wisecrack answer to anything the Trust boys throw at him.

Anyone know where he lives?  (only joking)
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« Reply #26 on: Monday, January 30, 2006, 16:24:55 »

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God I hate him. He's always got a fucking wisecrack answer to anything the Trust boys throw at him.

Actually, more to the point to not answer most of what we've thrown at him on this thread. Soon as a point sticks, he changes tack. He'll make an excellent councillor!
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« Reply #27 on: Monday, January 30, 2006, 16:35:56 »

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A big Casino with lots of bright flashing neon lights, 24 hour opening and lots of noisy extras thrown in. Not to mention the conversion of a few houses in County Road to brothels under the new legislation and a 24 hours pub. All fits in with Recreational uses as far as I can see.


Hey I quite like the sound of that, down with STFC, up with a Casino and Brothel Wink
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« Reply #28 on: Monday, January 30, 2006, 16:37:44 »

If I was into dirty tricks, I could imagine producing a run of leaflets with his tasty inbred quote ready for his election campaign.
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« Reply #29 on: Monday, January 30, 2006, 16:40:28 »

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A big Casino with lots of bright flashing neon lights, 24 hour opening and lots of noisy extras thrown in. Not to mention the conversion of a few houses in County Road to brothels under the new legislation and a 24 hours pub. All fits in with Recreational uses as far as I can see.


Hey I quite like the sound of that, down with STFC, up with a Casino and Brothel Wink


I think I'll campaign for such a development should the worse happen.

It's got legs as an idea though, and who knows, it might just garner some support from the Council as it attempts to help reduce the problem of prostitutes plying their trade on the local streets.
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