New Ground Shelved!!!

[SwindonTartanArmy]

I think Swindon Tartan Army is just a bit of a cock, don't pay any attention.

Sorry for making an honest mistake! :fu:

[McLovin]

:kisskiss:

[SwindonTartanArmy]

:kisskiss:

Ill let you off then!!! ha ha ha  

[Piemonte]

I think that the land inbetween Cricklade and Blunsdon is where they are looking. I've nothing to back that up, it just makes sense. NWBC rather than SBC, most of the land is privatly owned by farmers I'd imagine.

Good transport link with the A419, not far from Swindon itself. I could be wide of the mark but it would all make sense to me.
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[SwindonTartanArmy]

anyway, back to the point, Listen to MD this morning he seems to ahave answered all the questions. SBC wouldnt just be giving us the land, they could be co-owners of the new facilities and will be getting money bakc from that. Alos their worries about our side of the funding seems to be covered by the fact that there are several "financial institutions" wanting to get involved in the project once it has the go ahead. Devlin said these offers were "pretty much guarenteed".

[STFC Village]

I think that the land inbetween Cricklade and Blunsdon is where they are looking. I've nothing to back that up, it just makes sense. NWBC rather than SBC, most of the land is privatly owned by farmers I'd imagine.

Good transport link with the A419, not far from Swindon itself. I could be wide of the mark but it would all make sense to me.
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Haven't i seen that somewhere before

[mattboyslim]

The key to the development as I see it is to make it a partnership whereby we raise the cash, the council does the land, and the profits of the development are split as such.  Therefore the council can make money by way of an ivestment, and we all know how much SBC loves money, and the club receive secondary income streams too.  External investors could be along the lines of chains of health clubs who can put their facilities in the development.

[Piemonte]

I think that the land inbetween Cricklade and Blunsdon is where they are looking. I've nothing to back that up, it just makes sense. NWBC rather than SBC, most of the land is privatly owned by farmers I'd imagine.

Good transport link with the A419, not far from Swindon itself. I could be wide of the mark but it would all make sense to me.
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Haven't i seen that somewhere before

No, all original content there :|


 

[Sussex]

As someone who's lived out of the area for over 12 years, I don't have much current knowledge of Swindon local council affairs.

From what I've read in this thread, I must say it's all a bit worrying to say the least.

I know I'm putting this in very simplistic terms, but how can a town the size of Swindon NOT have a football club in the town. Redevelop the CG and both the club and council benefit financially, surely.

Seems to me a few councillors need their heads banging together.

(apologies for intruding on an important discussion, and not knowing what covenant is   )

[mattboyslim]

Covenant is a legal restriction put on a pice of land by its owner limiting it's use, for want of a more simple escription.  they have no time limit, and have to be negotiated out of with wads of cash if they are to be broken or changed.  Many pre-date cars etc and the construction industry would really like maximum time limits put on many of them.

Appologies if someone explained this earlier.

Sussex I think your simplistic and external view is spot on, yes we need a club, and IMHO some sensible developments could be mutually benficial to all concerned, but there's a lot of ground to be covered first.

[pauld]

anyway, back to the point, Listen to MD this morning he seems to ahave answered all the questions. SBC wouldnt just be giving us the land, they could be co-owners of the new facilities and will be getting money bakc from that.

Sorry, but that just won't fly with the auditors, never mind the electorate. Fact is the current plan involves SBC giving up a large chunk of land with (apparently) a developed value of £25m, which gets developed for housing, developer takes a big cut, some dosh gets put into stadium and in return SBC get a part share in a stadium that they already own. That is not going to be seen as "best value" which councils are legally obliged to seek in this kind of deal.

Alos their worries about our side of the funding seems to be covered by the fact that there are several "financial institutions" wanting to get involved in the project once it has the go ahead. Devlin said these offers were "pretty much guarenteed".

These "financial institutions" wouldn't happen to have more money than you can shake a stick at would they? Thought so.

[pauld]

A face I wouldnt tire of punching.
Fuck you very much, North Swindon torys!
http://www.conservativesintouch.com/uploaded/files/northswindonintouch_com/JT-headshot-aug04.jpg

Yeah, really clever. Have a go at about the only councillor who actually backs the club. Nice one.

Agreed, from what i can read into it he is the only one backing us.

Sorry I just hate Tory's!!!

Can't argue with that

My mistake, I must have misread, I thought he was one of the ones complaining about the stadium plans.

Fair enough, but we've got few enough people on the council arguing for us as it is at the moment without laying into the ones who are on side! But, fair dos, honest mistake and all that.

[Northern Red]

anyway, back to the point, Listen to MD this morning he seems to ahave answered all the questions. SBC wouldnt just be giving us the land, they could be co-owners of the new facilities and will be getting money bakc from that.

Sorry, but that just won't fly with the auditors, never mind the electorate. Fact is the current plan involves SBC giving up a large chunk of land with (apparently) a developed value of £25m, which gets developed for housing, developer takes a big cut, some dosh gets put into stadium and in return SBC get a part share in a stadium that they already own. That is not going to be seen as "best value" which councils are legally obliged to seek in this kind of deal.

He's right you know  

If the council do wish to dispose of the land in this way, they could make a value built case, with estimates of value in kind and future value or improvement savings. But it's difficult.

The ideal situation is that the auditor would like to see the land sold on an open market to achieve price, but we'd also be interested in the value that it can bring the community - often a lower price can be taken, if there is clear benefits to the community of the lower priced bid - I have thought that the lower priced 'bid' from STFC would achieve this, but Hilton or someone could also put in a good argument (employment, leisure, temp accom spase, regen) and could offer a higher price on the open market

I'll do some digging and find out a DA's take on this.....

[janaage]

IN STA's defence whether he's on our side or not, JT does have a certain hit me face look.

[Sippo]

Its the smile. 'I'm such a miserable bastard I can't be arsed to smile but I better had try for the camera's'....