Last chance Saloon for King

[STFC Village]

Good point but Adams made no impact whatsoever at Wycombe from what I saw. Furthemore, Wycombe are in a much better position financially than us and could probably offer Adams a fairly tempting offer, we'd be scraping the barrel to even afford him or anyone similar.

It seems more and more common that ex-players make the step up into management at a higher level as opposed to working their way up from the bottom, as somebody else said it's partially because there's so much money in the game now and the difference between leagues is becoming even bigger. Stuart Pearce is a prime example although he retired from playing a few years ago now.

I'd dearly love to see a young manager desperate to get into management come to the club and drag us forward kicking and screaming but I can't see it happening.

I agree, Adams was awful there, but at the time they weren't to know that, obviously, or they wouldn't have signed him! I didn't realise Wycombe were that well off financially...must have missed that, but my point still stands about reasonably well known ex-players, willing to take a step back, to take a step forward.

Stuart Pearce is an exception, as it was obvious to all that he would make a terrific manager (future England boss imho), and he had served his apprenticeship (sp) under Keegan. When Keegan left, I believe he recommended Pearce to take over from him.....

[Spencer_White]

I want Calderwood. Northampton havnt made that much progress so their might be chance he could leave by mutual consent.

Failing that, fuck knows. I just think too much water is under the bridge for King to stay.

Dont want Chalky though. I just cant see him being respected. Rather have Jimmy Quinn back. Taylor, not to bad as a figurehead, but is he smart enough for the job? Doubtful.

[Spud]

Ok so Calderwood hasnt got Northampton promoted with the aid of some cash but at least he would be respected by the fans.

[STFC Village]

Ok so Calderwood hasnt got Northampton promoted with the aid of some cash but at least he would be respected by the fans.

Yeah, at first, then results start going against you, you're on the verge of relegation.....fans can turn against anyone. FACT

[Reg Smeeton]

as somebody else said it's partially because there's so much money in the game now and the difference between leagues is becoming even bigger

  That was me SY.....KT mentions Curle but he's really an 80's player...I suppose its possible that an ex prem trough snuffler, may regard starting in the lower leagues as the way to go and may be prepared to work for nothing to get a chance.

 Any of our ex players would be a disaster, its not the club they knew, and none of them are experienced enough in the sort of firefighting that will be needed to keep us up this season.....only Reeeeeeves may fall into this category, as he's never known the club in its better days and is fully aware of the kind of job it is.

[Bob's Orange]

Wouldn't it be magic if King got the Bristol City job!  

[Ben Wah Balls]

No it would be the worst thing ever.

[Bob's Orange]

No it would be the worst thing ever.

Why? :roll:

[lebowski]

i think some people need to get real here, there's no chance at all of calderwood (or infact anyone in a job) taking over from king!

dont get me wrong, i'm no fan of king. i hate the guy as much as the next person! but the bottom line is that we simply cannot afford to sack him, because there just is not the money available to pay him off (we struggle to fulfill a £25'000-a-week wage bill, where is a £100'000 lump sum going to come from?). you can speculate all you like about crowds increasing under a new manager, but no-one knows for sure if they will or not, and we are currently dealing with the very future existence of this football club. it's too much of a risk. i imagine that if anything happens, all it will be is a shift around. king will move "upstairs", he'll be given a years notice on his contract, paid weekly until that expires whilst reeves, onuora or woan become "caretaker manager" on the same wage as they are on now, with everything reviewed at the end of the season (when we'll know more about the new stadium, and whether there even is a club anymore).

it is well within the realms of possibility that reeves could be a success. he seems able to read the game well, and has a defensive brain (of sorts!), and has worked with our youth... but whether he has the ability to make professional footballers play for him remains to be seen.

[Dazzza]

Said it before but I agree with the Kinky Tom that any long term appointment will be made externally and may well cause a bit of a stir.

We may be strapped for cash and saddled with enough debt to feed the third world for an hour but it’s still worth remembering that there’s still a fair amount of cash still running through the club.  Admittedly most of it’s used to plug holes or is being pissed up the wall by Sandy but nevertheless there’s a big investment by some and potentially money to be made by others.

For that reason I just can’t see the board taking a gamble on an inexperienced internal appointment and are far more likely to opt for an external candidate.

What the board want and what we can attract is another thing altogether.  As they say with employing managers you either take a gamble on an inexperienced man or employ someone that's been sacked elsewhere.

Worth remembering though that a manager’s salary is usually only fraction of what a player earns whatever the level.

[Ben Wah Balls]

No it would be the worst thing ever.

Why? :roll:

Chances are King would get them promoted seeeing as he's so come close here with much less to work with. Couple that with us being even worse and it would be awful.

[Reg Smeeton]

Said it before but I agree with the Kinky Tom that any long term appointment will be made externally and may well cause a bit of a stir.

We may be strapped for cash and saddled with enough debt to feed the third world for an hour but it’s still worth remembering that there’s still a fair amount of cash still running through the club.  Admittedly most of it’s used to plug holes or is being pissed up the wall by Sandy but nevertheless there’s a big investment by some and potentially money to be made by others.

For that reason I just can’t see the board taking a gamble on an inexperienced internal appointment and are far more likely to opt for an external candidate.

What the board want and what we can attract is another thing altogether.  As they say with employing managers you either take a gamble on an inexperienced man or employ someone that's been sacked elsewhere.

Worth remembering though that a manager’s salary is usually only fraction of what a player earns whatever the level.

  Think you're well wide of the mark, here Dazzza if SSW really wanted to make an exciting appointment, he'd have done it by now....the only chance of an external would be if they were prepared to do it for nothing or next to nothing

[Spencer_White]

No it would be the worst thing ever.

Why? :roll:

Chances are King would get them promoted seeeing as he's so come close here with much less to work with. Couple that with us being even worse and it would be awful.

Get to fuck. Can you see King ever EVER organising a mean well disciplined team?

He talks about luck more than an Irish lepricorn.

[Bedford Red]

I want Calderwood. Northampton havnt made that much progress so their might be chance he could leave by mutual consent.

Failing that, fuck knows. I just think too much water is under the bridge for King to stay.

Dont want Chalky though. I just cant see him being respected. Rather have Jimmy Quinn back. Taylor, not to bad as a figurehead, but is he smart enough for the job? Doubtful.[/quote

I'd like to see someone like Calderwood/Taylor/White etc to get a chance, might get the fans feeling more positive for a while etc and bring a few fans back.

But.... I've got to be honest and use my head rather than my heart and hope that doesn't happen because if it doesn't work then the fans remember him for what went wrong with the management rather than the legend they were as a player.

[Reg Smeeton]

I want Calderwood. Northampton havnt made that much progress so their might be chance he could leave by mutual consent.

Failing that, fuck knows. I just think too much water is under the bridge for King to stay.

Dont want Chalky though. I just cant see him being respected. Rather have Jimmy Quinn back. Taylor, not to bad as a figurehead, but is he smart enough for the job? Doubtful.[/quote

I'd like to see someone like Calderwood/Taylor/White etc to get a chance, might get the fans feeling more positive for a while etc and bring a few fans back.

But.... I've got to be honest and use my head rather than my heart and hope that doesn't happen because if it doesn't work then the fans remember him for what went wrong with the management rather than the legend they were as a player.

 CC should stay as far away from this club as possible.....I was trying to explain to a mate that if CC was in the job, and he started to get the inevitable grief that comes with it, it would be incumbent on the likes of me to react in a less than gentlemanly fashion.

 One of the good things about King is he acts as a kind of lightning conductor for the incompetent shower that run our club....he's not a nice person so is fair game......look at the state the shitheads reduced Tinnion to in a short time he was in charge and he's supposed to be a club legend.