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« Reply #15 on: Friday, October 4, 2024, 09:46:31 » |
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Thing is Batch, this isn't a lull or a one off. We are dropping like a stone, as a team and as a club.
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« Reply #16 on: Friday, October 4, 2024, 09:50:15 » |
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I can only assume the 3 people who voted yes accidently hit the wrong button.
Or they are Boo, Ben Sharp and Gareth Gillman.
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« Reply #17 on: Friday, October 4, 2024, 09:50:28 » |
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I'd like to see the Adver put something like this up
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« Reply #18 on: Friday, October 4, 2024, 09:51:58 » |
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I'd like to see the Adver put something like this up It would probably be 50/50. In the stadium itself, it would probably favour Clem in. This is why a protest will never work. The passionate fans who want change have already stopped going.
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« Reply #19 on: Friday, October 4, 2024, 09:54:25 » |
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I didn't vote yes, but I think the only real remaining "pro" argument is a better the devil you know argument. Our last three ownership changes have been late-stage Andrew Black fire sale to Jed McCrory, to Lee Power, to Clem. None of those have exactly been unmitigated successes. For those comparing Clem to Power directly, he's clearly someone who is more interested in being liked and is willing to at least try to make a positive impression on the fans. And Clem did make a positive first impression - and for some people the first impression lasts a long time. There have been successes under Clem too - the stadium is a big thing, obviously if you're into the detail you can see that this largely happened "under" Clem rather than because of Clem, but not everyone is into the legal detail of the joint venture and Eady funding!
That said, there were people out there batting for Power until the very end as well.
I don't think these are particularly strong arguments, but I think I can see a "there is nobody else, don't piss off the only guy keeping us going" pitch.
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« Reply #20 on: Friday, October 4, 2024, 09:59:09 » |
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You can still have no confidence even if you feel it's 'better the devil you know'
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« Reply #21 on: Friday, October 4, 2024, 10:07:26 » |
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It was better under Power though?
Am I genuinely mad for saying that?
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« Reply #22 on: Friday, October 4, 2024, 10:20:38 » |
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It was better under Power though?
Am I genuinely mad for saying that?
You're not mad. Under Power we weren't toeing the dotted line of doom in L2. I think the tricker question is where would we have been today if Power stayed? Or if the club was sold to Able? I don't think anybody except perhaps Power himself could answer that question, but I'm not confident we'd have been better off than we are now.
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« Reply #23 on: Friday, October 4, 2024, 11:07:25 » |
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Thing is Batch, this isn't a lull or a one off. We are dropping like a stone, as a team and as a club.
For clarity I'm done with this lot. I'm just interested in how much this poll is representative, and how volatile opinion equates to league position
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« Reply #24 on: Friday, October 4, 2024, 11:12:01 » |
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Absolutely no confidence in the ownership, whether its pathetic business acumen, financial negligence, business incompetance or well hidden downright illicit activites.
At times I have genuinely wondered if we may be better off with Power in charge, then I slap myself and yet I still cannot cast off that feeling, at least we would be better off footballing wise I am sure.
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Past glories motivate us when times are bleak.
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« Reply #25 on: Friday, October 4, 2024, 11:14:32 » |
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It was better under Power though?
Am I genuinely mad for saying that?
In a lot of ways it was better under Power. We never really threatened going all the way down to non-league and majority of the time we had footballing people in footballing roles at the club. It feels a lot more like pure mismanagement and incompetency under this regime, Morfuni is so obviously out of his depth and it's a mystery what he's actually getting out of this. Club needs a hard reset and a fresh start.
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« Reply #26 on: Friday, October 4, 2024, 11:22:53 » |
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I didn't vote yes, but I think the only real remaining "pro" argument is a better the devil you know argument.
It is. Personally I can't see anything other than non league at some point soon. For that reason it holds no weight for me as we are doomed without change anyway.
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« Reply #27 on: Friday, October 4, 2024, 12:20:44 » |
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I've following Swindon for years and we've always struggled with consistency. Well now we're consistantly shit. Easily the worst we have ever been and seemingly getting worse year by year. That is Clem's legacy.
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« Reply #28 on: Friday, October 4, 2024, 12:46:37 » |
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The only difference between Power and Clem is that Power was sensible enough to have football people in charge and making decisions, even he was a football person there is no denying that.
Both have inadequate funds, both have undesirables and shisters hanging around extracting what they can and both are carrying out shady practices in an attempt to prolong their ownership/dictatorship of the club.
The "football people" is really the only difference between the two. So based on that, Power is the preferable owner because although it is still a shit show in the background, it is a shit show that has football people employed which therefore makes the product on the pitch more likely to be successful, which is the only thing that the majority of us care about.
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« Reply #29 on: Friday, October 4, 2024, 13:18:50 » |
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Agree with Berni, although the more it goes on the more I think it’s not Clem, just a front for someone else
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